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Seth
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: CPU was busy Reply with quote

"Howard" <stile99@email.com> wrote in message
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in news:XTd4f.12419$Hm3.7051
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"Howard" <stile99@email.com> wrote in message
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Just to clarify, what I wrote above is in regards to the yellow light
meaning CPU busy.

However, that is not what the yellow light means.

That's what I said unless you are making some other point.

What you said:

"Machine was in the middle of downloading 'somthing' and was too busy to
respond. That's what that yellow light means."

No, that quote is from "Keith", not me. My responses to Keith were these 2
in succession...

{
No, the yellow light just means it saw an IR signal. It flashes yellow to
all IR signals it sees, even those not meant for the TiVo (like raising or
lowering the volume on your TV/stereo).

Just to clarify, what I wrote above is in regards to the yellow light
meaning CPU busy. It is also yellow during a download, but that is minimal
CPU usage. Once the light turns off (download over), then the CPU usage
goes up as it processes the data it just downloaded.
}

Quote:
What I said:

Wrong.

That's why I ask what your point is. You responded to the wrong person in
the wrong way.

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Howard
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: CPU was busy Reply with quote

"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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No, that quote is from "Keith", not me. My responses to Keith were
these 2 in succession...
That's why I ask what your point is. You responded to the wrong person
in the wrong way.

Ah, I see that this is correct. My apologies.

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Joe Smith
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: CPU was busy Reply with quote

Seth wrote:
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Keith" <guerryknospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen to me once. Machine was in the middle of
downloading 'somthing' and was too busy to respond. That's what that
yellow light means.

No, the yellow light just means it saw an IR signal. It flashes yellow to
all IR signals it sees, even those not meant for the TiVo (like raising or
lowering the volume on your TV/stereo).

Just to clarify, what I wrote above is in regards to the yellow light
meaning CPU busy. It is also yellow during a download, but that is minimal
CPU usage. Once the light turns off (download over), then the CPU usage
goes up as it processes the data it just downloaded.

You really should clarify which yellow light you're talking about;
there are two of them.

Green (Power On) light flashes yellow whenever it detects any IR signal.
Red (Recording) light illuminates as yellow when downloading data and
as orange when downloading while recording.

The OP wrote:
Nothing happened - the current show continued to
play. The green LED on the TiVo flickered to yellow every
time I pressed a remote button, so it was seeing the remote
control commands - it just didn't respond.

I have experienced different scenarios:

*) Green light acting oddly, flashing mostly yellow. Caused by
the cat knocking a book off of the couch onto another remote.
Another time it was me sitting on the second remote.

*) Green light not flashing, red light on, no response to tivoweb
or telnet. This was possibly right after a download. I did not
want to power cycle in the middle of a recording, so I left it
alone. Everything back to normal after recording finished.

*) No response with solid green and no response with green/yellow
flashing. Requires a restart to fix. Happens more often with
hacked TiVos, but not unheard of in pristine units.

I'll have to remember to go to Messages & Setup to check the time
of last download the next time this occurs.
-Joe
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Keith
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: CPU was busy Reply with quote

Yes, Seth you are correct but so am I. The unit doesn't responde while it is
in the middle of a down load. I have experienced the same effects Tim
complained about. I have experienced both with a Direct DVR and a regular
DirecTV HD reciever. I want to warn everyone not to unplug your unit while
the amber light is on. I did that once. Never again. No permenant damage but
unit took about 45 mins to 'reset'.

Now, you may wonder why I would unplug my unit? - Because it wouldn't
respond to my remote.

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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Keith" <guerryknospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen to me once. Machine was in the middle of
downloading 'somthing' and was too busy to respond. That's what that
yellow light means.

No, the yellow light just means it saw an IR signal. It flashes yellow
to all IR signals it sees, even those not meant for the TiVo (like
raising or lowering the volume on your TV/stereo).

Just to clarify, what I wrote above is in regards to the yellow light
meaning CPU busy. It is also yellow during a download, but that is
minimal CPU usage. Once the light turns off (download over), then the CPU
usage goes up as it processes the data it just downloaded.

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Seth
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: CPU was busy Reply with quote

"Keith" <guerryknospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Yes, Seth you are correct but so am I. The unit doesn't responde while it
is in the middle of a down load. I have experienced the same effects Tim
complained about. I have experienced both with a Direct DVR and a regular
DirecTV HD reciever. I want to warn everyone not to unplug your unit while
the amber light is on. I did that once. Never again. No permenant damage
but unit took about 45 mins to 'reset'.

A) I still stand-by my statement that the yellow status light is not a "CPU
busy" indicator.

B) Resetting the unit during a download will cause no harm as none of the
data is processed until the download is complete. It is just downloaded to
the equivalent of a temporary storage area.

C) resetting the unit while processing data will cause no harm. If it was
guide data, then it is just incomplete and needs to re-process (a background
operation). If it was reset during an OS upgrade, still no harm. TiVo uses
2 OS partitions. 1 live and one for updates. WHen an update comes down, it
is applied to the /other/ partition and doesn't become active until system
re-start.

If your system took 45 minutes to restart, it either A) just completed an
update that also involves changes to the database (which always occur on
next restart after the update) or B) your machine has other issues.

The simple exercise of restarting during a data download is no more harmful
than restarting any other time.

If your system is not responding during a data download that also suggest
your machine has other issues. The TiVo could be downloading at any time,
day or night including during prime viewing hours. If the mere act of doing
a download put the system in an un-responsive state on a regular basis (like
you suggest above) I would venture to guess we'd be seeing a lot of talk
about that here.

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Now, you may wonder why I would unplug my unit? - Because it wouldn't
respond to my remote.
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