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DavesVideo
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Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject:
Odd Copy Protect Problem |
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When I first got my Phillips stand-alone DVD recorder, I found that the Copy
Protect signal would cone on at inappropriate and seemingly random times. I was
copying my own edits from original footage, so there is no chance that there
was a real copyright protect involved.
The help line did no good, but they sent me a disk to reload the software and
when that didn’t help, I returned the recorder and got a replacement. The
problem persisted with the new recorder but I finally found out exactly what
makes it occur:
There is never a problem when copying via firewire, but some of my old edits
are mastered on S-VHS and those give me the problem. When there is a freeze
frame, or even slo-motion, where the same frame is repeated, the Phillips sees
that as a copy protested signal and stops recording. I can get around it by
copying back to DV and then using firewire so its not serious, but does seem to
be a design fault. I find this feature to be very odd, but maybe there is
something about repeat frames that resemble copy protect. Anyone have any
thoughts on this? Oh, I even tried running the signal thru a TBC, but it still
does not like freeze frames.
Dave
http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave
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me
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:54 am Post subject:
Re: Odd Copy Protect Problem |
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On 20 Oct 2004 12:36:51 GMT, davesvideo@aol.com (DavesVideo) wrote:
| Quote: | When I first got my Phillips stand-alone DVD recorder, I found that the Copy
Protect signal would cone on at inappropriate and seemingly random times. I was
copying my own edits from original footage, so there is no chance that there
was a real copyright protect involved.
The help line did no good, but they sent me a disk to reload the software and
when that didn’t help, I returned the recorder and got a replacement. The
problem persisted with the new recorder but I finally found out exactly what
makes it occur:
There is never a problem when copying via firewire, but some of my old edits
are mastered on S-VHS and those give me the problem. When there is a freeze
frame, or even slo-motion, where the same frame is repeated, the Phillips sees
that as a copy protested signal and stops recording. I can get around it by
copying back to DV and then using firewire so its not serious, but does seem to
be a design fault. I find this feature to be very odd, but maybe there is
something about repeat frames that resemble copy protect. Anyone have any
thoughts on this? Oh, I even tried running the signal thru a TBC, but it still
does not like freeze frames.
Dave
http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave
I have seen the same problem with my tv tuner card in the computer it |
dont like freeze frames or pauses when recording and triggers
copyright mode puttind a bar across the screen |
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TheMartian
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:53 am Post subject:
Re: Odd Copy Protect Problem |
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DavesVideo wrote:
| Quote: | When I first got my Phillips stand-alone DVD recorder, I found that the Copy
Protect signal would cone on at inappropriate and seemingly random times. I was
copying my own edits from original footage, so there is no chance that there
was a real copyright protect involved.
The help line did no good, but they sent me a disk to reload the software and
when that didn’t help, I returned the recorder and got a replacement. The
problem persisted with the new recorder but I finally found out exactly what
makes it occur:
There is never a problem when copying via firewire, but some of my old edits
are mastered on S-VHS and those give me the problem. When there is a freeze
frame, or even slo-motion, where the same frame is repeated, the Phillips sees
that as a copy protested signal and stops recording. I can get around it by
copying back to DV and then using firewire so its not serious, but does seem to
be a design fault. I find this feature to be very odd, but maybe there is
something about repeat frames that resemble copy protect. Anyone have any
thoughts on this? Oh, I even tried running the signal thru a TBC, but it still
does not like freeze frames.
Dave
http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave
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been bitten by this crap in the past
also found that a normal TBC did not help, the only way round this mess
was to use a "video enharncer" to filter the video before feeding into
the TBC
the "video enharncer" I used came from a local electronics store in kit
form and cost me <$50
while advertised as a "enharncer" the real purpose of these thing (at
least at this end of the market) is to filter out macrovision
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Mike S.
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:48 am Post subject:
Re: Odd Copy Protect Problem |
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In article <20041020083651.01302.00002581@mb-m04.aol.com>,
DavesVideo <davesvideo@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | When I first got my Phillips stand-alone DVD recorder, I found that the Copy
Protect signal would cone on at inappropriate and seemingly random times. I was
copying my own edits from original footage, so there is no chance that there
was a real copyright protect involved.
The help line did no good, but they sent me a disk to reload the software and
when that didn’t help, I returned the recorder and got a replacement. The
problem persisted with the new recorder but I finally found out exactly what
makes it occur:
There is never a problem when copying via firewire, but some of my old edits
are mastered on S-VHS and those give me the problem. When there is a freeze
frame, or even slo-motion, where the same frame is repeated, the Phillips sees
that as a copy protested signal and stops recording. I can get around it by
copying back to DV and then using firewire so its not serious, but does seem to
be a design fault. I find this feature to be very odd, but maybe there is
something about repeat frames that resemble copy protect. Anyone have any
thoughts on this? Oh, I even tried running the signal thru a TBC, but it still
does not like freeze frames.
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I'd try a device specifically designed to filter Macrovision and CGMS-A,
like the Sima "Go DVD". |
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DavesVideo
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Odd Copy Protect Problem |
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Mike S said:
| Quote: | I'd try a device specifically designed to filter Macrovision and CGMS-A,
like the Sima "Go DVD". |
Not worth it to me, since I have a work around, so I was just asking if anyone
knows why the Phillips thinks it is seeing copy protect.
Dave
http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave |
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