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[Ben Bradley]

This thread was about to die out of its last frequency-modulated
post (oh, I see the subject in this subthread is no longer Questions
about FM synthesis and amplitude), then someone mentioned
religion...I've only read about half the posts since then, but I see
where someone brought up The Trinity...

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comp.dsp,rec.audio.tech,rec.music.makers.synth,comp.music.midi,alt.audio.equipment,
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:13:41 GMT, "Ricky Hunt" <rhunt22@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[Randy Yates]

"Clay S. Turner" <Physics@Bellsouth.net> writes:

[Clay S. Turner]

"glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message
news:bradnVBxQuOINsHeRVn-oA@comcast.com...

[Jerry Avins]

Randy Yates wrote:

[E-synth]

Get the f**k out of "rec.music.makers.synth" with this utter crap that has
nothing with the subject of this group! Or prepare to be reported to abuse
service. It that doesnt work, a mail bomb with 1000 mails per day to your
account will.

Go to some other group or use email for private conversations. We really do
not have interest in reading all your rubbish that has nothing with music or
synthesizers. And for once REMOVE the "rec.music.makers.synth" from
crossposting!!!

[glen herrmannsfeldt]

Richard Dobson wrote:

(snip)

[Richard Dobson]

E-synth wrote:
....And for once REMOVE the "rec.music.makers.synth" from

[Radium]

E-synth wrote:

[Jim Adamthwaite]

To avoid evolution, all parents need to have the same number of offspring at
the same parental ages.

Any variation is selection at work. Its the only game everything plays.

Jim A.

[S.O.D.D.I.]

glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

Jon Harris wrote:

[Bo]

I came in late on this thread..so this may not be what you are after. Just
in case it is:

(from http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html)

Regards,

Bo
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1.. Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first
mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended
various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in
1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in
1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and Copernicus was urged to
publish around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious
persecution - and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise,
Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus
referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in
conflict with the Bible.
2.. Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
Kepler was a brilliant mathematician and astronomer. He did early work on
light, and established the laws of planetary motion about the sun. He also
came close to reaching the Newtonian concept of universal gravity - well
before Newton was born! His introduction of the idea of force in astronomy
changed it radically in a modern direction. Kepler was an extremely sincere
and pious Lutheran, whose works on astronomy contain writings about how
space and the heavenly bodies represent the Trinity. Kepler suffered no
persecution for his open avowal of the sun-centered system, and, indeed, was
allowed as a Protestant to stay in Catholic Graz as a Professor (1595-1600)
when other Protestants had been expelled!
3.. Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic
Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It
had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo's telescope discoveries did
not indicate a moving earth) and his one "proof" based upon the tides was
invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published
twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the
Pope's favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the
Pope (an old friend of Galileo's) was very offended. After the "trial" and
being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most
useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that
the Bible cannot err, he saw his system as concerning the issue of how the
Bible should be interpreted.
4.. Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
Descartes was a French mathematician, scientist and philosopher who has
been called the father of modern philosophy. His school studies made him
dissatisfied with previous philosophy: He had a deep religious faith as a
Catholic, which he retained to his dying day, along with a resolute,
passionate desire to discover the truth. At the age of 24 he had a dream,
and felt the vocational call to seek to bring knowledge together in one
system of thought. His system began by asking what could be known if all
else were doubted - suggesting the famous "I think therefore I am".
Actually, it is often forgotten that the next step for Descartes was to
establish the near certainty of the existence of God - for only if God both
exists and would not want us to be deceived by our experiences can we trust
our senses and logical thought processes. God is, therefore, central to his
whole philosophy. What he really wanted was to see his philosophy adopted as
standard Catholic teaching. Rene Descartes and Francis Bacon (1561-1626) are
generally regarded as the key figures in the development of scientific
methodology. Both had systems in which God was important, and both seem more
devout than the average for their era.
5.. Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed
genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw
mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was
devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding from the
Bible God's plan for history. He did a lot of work on biblical numerology,
and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology
very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and
absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of
the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and
dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being."
6.. Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
One of the founders and key early members of the Royal Society, Boyle gave
his name to "Boyle's Law" for gasses, and also wrote an important work on
chemistry. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "By his will he endowed
a series of Boyle lectures, or sermons, which still continue, "for proving
the Christian religion against notorious infidels."... As a devout
Protestant, Boyle took a special interest in promoting the Christian
religion abroad, giving money to translate and publish the New Testament
into Irish and Turkish. In 1690 he developed his theological views in The
Christian Virtuoso, which he wrote to show that the study of nature was a
central religious duty." Boyle wrote against atheists in his day (the notion
that atheism is a modern invention is a myth), and was clearly much more
devoutly Christian than the average in his era.
7.. Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
The son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the
19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionized
physics, but has led to so much in our lifestyles today which depend on them
(including computers and telephone lines and so Web sites). Faraday was a
devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly
influenced upon him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and
interpreted nature. The Sandemanians originated from Presbyterians who had
rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament
type of Christianity.
8.. Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in
what came to be called "Mendelianism". He began his research in 1856 (three
years before Darwin published his Origin of Species) in the garden of the
Monastery in which he was a monk. Mendel was elected Abbot of his Monastery
in 1868. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the
century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results
and "rediscovered" him (though their ideas were not identical to his). An
interesting point is that the 1860's was the formation of the X-Club,
dedicated to lessening religious influences and propagating an image of
"conflict" between science and religion. One sympathizer was Darwin's cousin
Francis Galton, whose scientific interest was in genetics (a proponent of
eugenics - selective breeding among humans to "improve" the stock). He was
writing how the "priestly mind" was not conducive to science whilst, at
around the same time, an Austrian monk was making the breakthrough in
genetics. The rediscovery of the work of Mendel came too late to affect
Galton's contribution.
9.. Kelvin (William Thomson) (1824-1907)
Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped
to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered may areas of
physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone
else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from
European Universities who recognized the value of his work. He was a very
committed Christian, certainly more religious than the average for his era.
Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and
James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment,
in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The
Encyclopedia Britannica says "Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists
as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th
century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for
the fundamental nature of his contributions." Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth
creationist, who estimated the Earth's age to be somewhere between 20
million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years
based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about
radiogenic heating).
10.. Max Planck (1858-1947)
Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum
theory, which has revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and
sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture "Religion and Naturwissenschaft,"
Planck expressed the view that God is everywhere present, and held that "the
holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of
symbols." Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are
merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and
believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily
a personal one). Both science and religion wage a "tireless battle against
skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition" with the goal
"toward God!"
"Erik de Castro Lopo" <nospam@mega-nerd.com> wrote in message
news:43671664.638B138@mega-nerd.com...

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

Bo wrote:

[Laurence Payne]

On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:05:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo
<nospam@mega-nerd.com> wrote:

[Stig Bull]

In article <627d0$4367699f$18d6ec55$1815@KNOLOGY.NET>, bo@cephus.com
says...