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Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject:
Best wireless network card |
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I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
thnx,
Christoph
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Randy S.
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Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject:
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jcboget@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
thnx,
Christoph
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See this page:
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv2006.htm?
I'd probably recommend either the D-Link DWL-G120 version B2 or the
Netgear WG111 (Only serial numbers starting with WG72), as these are the
only 802.11g adapters officially supported right now (the rest on that
page are shown as 802.11g for some reason, but they're not if you look
at the extended list).
Make sure you have Software version 7.2 before using those adapters,
however. 7.1 or earlier does not support them.
Randy S. |
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wkearney99
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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| Quote: | I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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Rumor has it that it's often better to use a 100BaseT wired card and then
use a 'gaming adapter' to convert the signals to 802.11g. Apparently the
driver embedded in the Tivo takes better advantage of bandwidth when using a
wired adapter. Then the external gaming device does it's own work to
retransmit that over the airwaves. Not as cheap as a direct USB wireless
dongle but if you want performance (and with Tivo files you'll NEED it) then
it's probably worth the added cost. |
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Randy S.
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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wkearney99 wrote:
| Quote: | I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Rumor has it that it's often better to use a 100BaseT wired card and then
use a 'gaming adapter' to convert the signals to 802.11g. Apparently the
driver embedded in the Tivo takes better advantage of bandwidth when using a
wired adapter. Then the external gaming device does it's own work to
retransmit that over the airwaves. Not as cheap as a direct USB wireless
dongle but if you want performance (and with Tivo files you'll NEED it) then
it's probably worth the added cost.
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I believe that's outdated advice now. Version 7.2 now supports at least
2 802.11g adapters natively. Prior to 7.2 only 802.11b wireless
adapters were supported so your recommendation was a good one.
Whichever route you go, you won't use anywhere near the available
bandwidth for TTG, the encryption process is CPU limited, not bandwidth
limited at speeds above 802.11b.
A hacked Tivo will transfer programs much more quickly as it's
unencumbered by encryption requirements.
Randy S. |
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Randy S.
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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| Quote: | Anyone know when TiVo will support the newer WPA security on 802.11g? I
converted my home network to WPA and disabled WEP security. I'd sure
like to hook up my TiVo to my network, but I'm not going back to WEP.
Thanks,
Ted.
Use a Linksys USB200 dongle, and an Ethernet Bridge, and then you have
your WEP.
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Ahh, not there's a legitimate benefit to using the wired-ethernet to
gaming bridge method, I hadn't thought of that. Good point, Jack!
Randy S. |
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Mike Hunt
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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On 2005-10-06, Dan <dan@nospam.com> wrote:
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If you want to set up a wireless music network? Then look at the
Squeeze Box 2 from Slim Devices. It has a built in Ethernet port that
maybe you could plug your Tivo into. Oh, I forgot, Tivo doesn't have an
Ethernet port.
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My two TiVos each have ethernet ports in them.
Granted, I added them with a nibbler but doesn't that count? :-)
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Ted
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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Randy S. wrote:
| Quote: | wkearney99 wrote:
I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Rumor has it that it's often better to use a 100BaseT wired card and then
use a 'gaming adapter' to convert the signals to 802.11g. Apparently the
driver embedded in the Tivo takes better advantage of bandwidth when
using a
wired adapter. Then the external gaming device does it's own work to
retransmit that over the airwaves. Not as cheap as a direct USB wireless
dongle but if you want performance (and with Tivo files you'll NEED
it) then
it's probably worth the added cost.
I believe that's outdated advice now. Version 7.2 now supports at least
2 802.11g adapters natively. Prior to 7.2 only 802.11b wireless
adapters were supported so your recommendation was a good one. Whichever
route you go, you won't use anywhere near the available bandwidth for
TTG, the encryption process is CPU limited, not bandwidth limited at
speeds above 802.11b.
A hacked Tivo will transfer programs much more quickly as it's
unencumbered by encryption requirements.
Randy S.
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Anyone know when TiVo will support the newer WPA security on 802.11g? I
converted my home network to WPA and disabled WEP security. I'd sure
like to hook up my TiVo to my network, but I'm not going back to WEP.
Thanks,
Ted. |
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Jack Zwick
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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In article <AdOdnadTgdOmJdjenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Ted <tedj1971@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Randy S. wrote:
wkearney99 wrote:
I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Rumor has it that it's often better to use a 100BaseT wired card and then
use a 'gaming adapter' to convert the signals to 802.11g. Apparently the
driver embedded in the Tivo takes better advantage of bandwidth when
using a
wired adapter. Then the external gaming device does it's own work to
retransmit that over the airwaves. Not as cheap as a direct USB wireless
dongle but if you want performance (and with Tivo files you'll NEED
it) then
it's probably worth the added cost.
I believe that's outdated advice now. Version 7.2 now supports at least
2 802.11g adapters natively. Prior to 7.2 only 802.11b wireless
adapters were supported so your recommendation was a good one. Whichever
route you go, you won't use anywhere near the available bandwidth for
TTG, the encryption process is CPU limited, not bandwidth limited at
speeds above 802.11b.
A hacked Tivo will transfer programs much more quickly as it's
unencumbered by encryption requirements.
Randy S.
Anyone know when TiVo will support the newer WPA security on 802.11g? I
converted my home network to WPA and disabled WEP security. I'd sure
like to hook up my TiVo to my network, but I'm not going back to WEP.
Thanks,
Ted.
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Use a Linksys USB200 dongle, and an Ethernet Bridge, and then you have
your WEP. |
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Randy S.
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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| Quote: | If you want to set up a wireless music network? Then look at the
Squeeze Box 2 from Slim Devices. It has a built in Ethernet port that
maybe you could plug your Tivo into. Oh, I forgot, Tivo doesn't have an
Ethernet port.
Dan
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It does if you get a USB-to-wired ethernet adapter.
But what does your answer have anything to do with his question?
Anybody know if Tivo is planning to add WPA support?
Randy S. |
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Dan
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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On 10/6/2005 6:50 PM, Ted wrote:
| Quote: | Randy S. wrote:
wkearney99 wrote:
I'm thinking about finally hooking my series 2 dvr up to my home
network but am unsure which usb wireless network card would be best to
purchase. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Rumor has it that it's often better to use a 100BaseT wired card and
then
use a 'gaming adapter' to convert the signals to 802.11g. Apparently
the
driver embedded in the Tivo takes better advantage of bandwidth when
using a
wired adapter. Then the external gaming device does it's own work to
retransmit that over the airwaves. Not as cheap as a direct USB
wireless
dongle but if you want performance (and with Tivo files you'll NEED
it) then
it's probably worth the added cost.
I believe that's outdated advice now. Version 7.2 now supports at
least 2 802.11g adapters natively. Prior to 7.2 only 802.11b wireless
adapters were supported so your recommendation was a good one.
Whichever route you go, you won't use anywhere near the available
bandwidth for TTG, the encryption process is CPU limited, not
bandwidth limited at speeds above 802.11b.
A hacked Tivo will transfer programs much more quickly as it's
unencumbered by encryption requirements.
Randy S.
Anyone know when TiVo will support the newer WPA security on 802.11g? I
converted my home network to WPA and disabled WEP security. I'd sure
like to hook up my TiVo to my network, but I'm not going back to WEP.
Thanks,
Ted.
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If you want to set up a wireless music network? Then look at the
Squeeze Box 2 from Slim Devices. It has a built in Ethernet port that
maybe you could plug your Tivo into. Oh, I forgot, Tivo doesn't have an
Ethernet port.
Dan |
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Dan
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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On 10/6/2005 8:25 PM, Randy S. wrote:
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If you want to set up a wireless music network? Then look at the
Squeeze Box 2 from Slim Devices. It has a built in Ethernet port that
maybe you could plug your Tivo into. Oh, I forgot, Tivo doesn't have
an Ethernet port.
Dan
It does if you get a USB-to-wired ethernet adapter.
But what does your answer have anything to do with his question?
Anybody know if Tivo is planning to add WPA support?
Randy S.
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The SB2 has a built in ethernet port that acts like a bridge. It
supports WPA. So you could plug your Tivo into it. I do this with my
Replay. Again, if you want to have a network music player I would
recommend this setup.
Dan |
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Dan
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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On 10/6/2005 9:21 PM, Randy S. wrote:
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Anyone know when TiVo will support the newer WPA security on
802.11g? I converted my home network to WPA and disabled WEP
security. I'd sure like to hook up my TiVo to my network, but I'm
not going back to WEP.
Thanks,
Ted.
Use a Linksys USB200 dongle, and an Ethernet Bridge, and then you have
your WEP.
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The OP wants WPA.
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Ahh, not there's a legitimate benefit to using the wired-ethernet to
gaming bridge method, I hadn't thought of that. Good point, Jack!
Randy S. |
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MegaZone
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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Dan <dan@nospam.com> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | The SB2 has a built in ethernet port that acts like a bridge. It
supports WPA. So you could plug your Tivo into it. I do this with my
Replay. Again, if you want to have a network music player I would
recommend this setup.
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Why? Ther TiVo *is* a network music player. Buying another product
seems kind of pointless. While the TiVo only supports MP3s natively,
there are PC side servers that transcode other formats to MP3 on the
fly.
I know, ReplayTV doesn't play music. They promised MP3 support and
never delivered.
-MZ
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171
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Randy S.
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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| Quote: | Use a Linksys USB200 dongle, and an Ethernet Bridge, and then you
have your WEP.
The OP wants WPA.
Ahh, not there's a legitimate benefit to using the wired-ethernet to
gaming bridge method, I hadn't thought of that. Good point, Jack!
Randy S.
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I think Jack meant WPA. I'm sure there are gaming adapters out there
that support WPA.
Randy S. |
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Glen
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Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Best wireless network card |
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| Quote: | shaped the electrons to say:
The SB2 has a built in ethernet port that acts like a bridge. It
supports WPA. So you could plug your Tivo into it. I do this with my
Replay. Again, if you want to have a network music player I would
recommend this setup.
Why? Ther TiVo *is* a network music player. Buying another product
seems kind of pointless. While the TiVo only supports MP3s natively,
there are PC side servers that transcode other formats to MP3 on the
fly.
I know, ReplayTV doesn't play music. They promised MP3 support and
never delivered.
-MZ
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Only reasons I can think of is size, portability (you can build one into a boom box with |
wireless), and the most awesome feature is that you can sync all the players to the same
track. Which means you can have multiple SB2s around the house, or outside, all playing
the same track and be able to change the track or playlist from a wireless PDA using a
browser. A good use for all of those used slow laptops is running an SB emulator on them,
and connect them to amps and speakers around the house, it's what I do for parties and such. |
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