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Harvey
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 Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:
Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig drive.
All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do if I
wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was prepared
to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely flickered,
but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
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Scooby
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
| Quote: | So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig drive.
All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do if I
wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
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Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks (monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now depricated
for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution for
first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well under an
hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should be able
to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2 hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for downloads
and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling home
anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo anymore,
just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of the drive,
pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore. This is the
point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test the drive in
your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't put it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim |
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Harvey
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
| Quote: | "Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks (monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well under
an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should be
able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2
hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't put
it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
|
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It does
seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours. Can
anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though I
would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to burn
to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all. There seem
to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for this
afternoon.
Harvey
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Mike Hunt
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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On 2005-09-29, Harvey <here@there.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for this
afternoon.
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Go get yourself a cheap UPS.
--
This is my .sig |
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Scooby
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
| Quote: |
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to
have the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks
(monty) to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well
under an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you
should be able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive
within 1-2 hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't
put it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It
does seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours.
Can anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though
I would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to
burn to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all.
There seem to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for
this afternoon.
Harvey
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Do you have the drives on separate ide channels? |
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Jack Zwick
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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In article <78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET>,
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig drive.
All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do if I
wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks (monty)
to the drive if you wish.
|
I've used sleeper, and still think it is a useful tool, but it will not
save existing recordings.
| Quote: | The weethet site says that this is now depricated
for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution for
first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well under an
hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should be able
to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2 hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for downloads
and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling home
anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo anymore,
just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of the drive,
pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore. This is the
point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test the drive in
your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't put it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim |
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Jack Zwick
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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In article <3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks (monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well under
an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should be
able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2
hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't put
it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It does
seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours. Can
anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though I
would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to burn
to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all. There seem
to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
|
With an external DVD
1. the quality of the vids suffer from the digital -> analog -> digital
conversions
2. You can only get 2 hours of Video on a DVD instead of 4 1/2 than
come from extracted video processed through Tytools.
| Quote: |
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for this
afternoon.
Harvey
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Scooby
Guest
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| Posted:
Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-CE9A24.10350929092005@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | In article <3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to
do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and
was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to
have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this
is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks
(monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple
solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well
under
an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should
be
able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2
hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size
of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't
put
it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It
does
seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours. Can
anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though
I
would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to
burn
to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all. There
seem
to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
With an external DVD
1. the quality of the vids suffer from the digital -> analog -> digital
conversions
2. You can only get 2 hours of Video on a DVD instead of 4 1/2 than
come from extracted video processed through Tytools.
|
That's not true... I have a DVD recorder that works similar to a VCR. It
will record different qualities and I can get 1, 2, 4 or 6 hours. I've
found that I like the 2 hours for most things. But, I can change it to 4
and not lose a lot of quality. I'll do this if my movies run over 2 hours.
The main difference is that it has to convert to analog and back to digital,
so there is alway some inherent quality loss. Transferring directly from
the tivo and buring as VOB files is a better way to go if you have the
option. |
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Harvey
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11jnvctmgp4qa91@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | On 2005-09-29, Harvey <here@there.com> wrote:
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for
this
afternoon.
Go get yourself a cheap UPS.
--
This is my .sig
|
Yes, I had one for a while, but they only last so long, and last night the
lights were out for a couple of hours. Also, the batteries need replacement
every few years, and they tend to beep continuously when the lights go out.
Very unnerving in the middle of the night.
So I make choices and pay the price.
Harvey |
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Harvey
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7a5b7$433c0424$a22770bd$31724@ALLTEL.NET...
| Quote: |
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to
do if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and
was prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to
have the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this
is the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks
(monty) to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is
now depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple
solution for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in
well under an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But,
you should be able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your
tive within 1-2 hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size
of the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the
restore. This is the point where it will tell you that restore is
complete, test the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the
hacks. Just don't put it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It
does seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours.
Can anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though
I would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to
burn to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all.
There seem to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
At least I will have a larger drive... maybe. Thunderstorms forcast for
this afternoon.
Harvey
Do you have the drives on separate ide channels?
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Yes. The old drive is slave on Primary, new master on secondary.
BTW - Try @2 - 9 hours, 84%, thunderstorms forcast.
Harvey |
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Harvey
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:43280$433c177c$a22770bd$4544@ALLTEL.NET...
| Quote: |
"Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-CE9A24.10350929092005@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
In article <3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to
do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and
was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to
have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a
bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this
is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks
(monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple
solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well
under
an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should
be
able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2
hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux
experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the
directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size
of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete,
test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't
put
it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It
does
seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours. Can
anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I
realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks,
though I
would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to
burn
to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all. There
seem
to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
With an external DVD
1. the quality of the vids suffer from the digital -> analog -> digital
conversions
2. You can only get 2 hours of Video on a DVD instead of 4 1/2 than
come from extracted video processed through Tytools.
That's not true... I have a DVD recorder that works similar to a VCR. It
will record different qualities and I can get 1, 2, 4 or 6 hours. I've
found that I like the 2 hours for most things. But, I can change it to 4
and not lose a lot of quality. I'll do this if my movies run over 2
hours.
The main difference is that it has to convert to analog and back to
digital, so there is alway some inherent quality loss. Transferring
directly from the tivo and buring as VOB files is a better way to go if
you have the option.
This is (was) of course the option that I want(ed) to work towards. Now it |
seems that it may not be worth it. I mean, if I allow it to get an update
for whatever reason, I run the risk of breaking the software. Also having to
call or go online for a ppv, and who knows what other gotchas will come up,
minor or otherwise. I'm just not sure anymore, you know?
OTOH - Which recorder do you have? I have heard of quality settings in some
stand alone recorders.
Harvey |
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Jack Zwick
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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In article <43280$433c177c$a22770bd$4544@ALLTEL.NET>,
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-CE9A24.10350929092005@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
In article <3SS_e.12478$eB3.5229@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive. All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to
do
if I wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and
was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to
have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this
is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks
(monty)
to the drive if you wish. The weethet site says that this is now
depricated for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple
solution
for first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well
under
an hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should
be
able to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2
hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling
home anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo
anymore, just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size
of
the drive, pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore.
This is the point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test
the drive in your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't
put
it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
I am using mfsbackup and mfsrestore per this site:
http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/index.php
I found this very useful. The site says it is sponsored by weeknees. It
does
seem exceedingly slow, though. On try #2, I am at 37% after 4 hours. Can
anybody tell me why?
Yes, I have read some mixed comments about sleeper. In the end, I realize
that I don't really want the added time overhead of further hacks, though
I
would love to access the unit from the computer and extract the vid to
burn
to dvd. I suppose I will get a stand-alone DVD burner after all. There
seem
to be too many 'gotchas' to hacking it. Too bad.
With an external DVD
1. the quality of the vids suffer from the digital -> analog -> digital
conversions
2. You can only get 2 hours of Video on a DVD instead of 4 1/2 than
come from extracted video processed through Tytools.
That's not true... I have a DVD recorder that works similar to a VCR. It
will record different qualities and I can get 1, 2, 4 or 6 hours. I've
found that I like the 2 hours for most things. But, I can change it to 4
and not lose a lot of quality. I'll do this if my movies run over 2 hours.
The main difference is that it has to convert to analog and back to digital,
so there is alway some inherent quality loss. Transferring directly from
the tivo and buring as VOB files is a better way to go if you have the
option.
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Fine but with tytools, its digital all the way and with 4 1/2 hours of
extracted Video per DVD you can a/b it with stuff on the TiVo HD, and
not tell the difference, not just "little loss of quality" that you may
fool yourself with. No loss of quality ! You want a DVD with video thats
like a poor 3rd generation video tape go for it. |
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Jack Zwick
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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In article
<jackzwick-A0477C.10332529092005@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <78a74$433bf013$a22770bd$10228@ALLTEL.NET>,
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote:
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:2RP_e.6763$8l3.6608@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
So I began copying from the old 40 gig hard disk to the new 120 gig
drive.
All was going great! I was warned it would take a long time to do if I
wanted to copy my programing, too. I wanted the programing, and was
prepared to wait.
The copy was started at 9:00 AM.
After 6 hours, 3:00PM, I was 40% done.
After 8 hours, 5:00PM, I was 70% done.
At 9 hours, 6:00PM, I was 77% done, and woundering if I was going to have
the Tivo for the evening at all.
At 10 hours, 7:00PM, the thunderstorm arrived, the lights barely
flickered, but still progressing. Florida.
At 10:15 hours, the storm had substantially cleared - dodged a bullet!
at 10:30 hours the lights went out. Completly and suddenly.
It is now 7:00 AM the next day.
I am at 40 minutes and 6.5%
Harvey
Harvey,
What utility are you using to copy this? The simple solution for this is
the sleeper.iso. It will do a backup/restore and will apply hacks (monty)
to the drive if you wish.
I've used sleeper, and still think it is a useful tool, but it will not
save existing recordings.
The weethet site says that this is now depricated
for the 4.0 hack, but I still find it to be a simple solution for
first-timers. Try that. It should copy that 40GB drive in well under an
hour. I can't remember exactly how long it takes. But, you should be able
to backup/restore and have the new drive in your tive within 1-2 hours.
The 4.0 hack is nice, but it is very time consuming, costs $25 for
downloads
and is not for a first timer with little/no linux experience.
Caveat - once you apply hacks to your tivo, you do not want it calling home
anymore. That means don't order your movies through the directivo anymore,
just order them online. If you just want to bump up the size of the drive,
pull your drive out and stop the process after the restore. This is the
point where it will tell you that restore is complete, test the drive in
your tivo and then reboot to apply the hacks. Just don't put it back in.
Hope that helps,
Jim
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One of the hacks makes it stop calling in, another prevents it from
updating the OS, so whats the problem. |
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Jeff Rife
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:03 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
| Quote: | Fine but with tytools, its digital all the way and with 4 1/2 hours of
extracted Video per DVD you can a/b it with stuff on the TiVo HD, and
not tell the difference, not just "little loss of quality" that you may
fool yourself with. No loss of quality !
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That's not true at all for any TiVo except ones with built-in DVD recorders.
All other TiVos require an MPEG recompression to re-format the video to
DVD standard geometry. This *will* cause a loss of quality, and if you use
a poor compression program, it will be a bigger loss than the D/A and A/D
conversions done by piping the output to a standalone DVD recorder.
--
Jeff Rife | Sam: What d'ya say to a beer, Normie?
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Scooby
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| Posted:
Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Perhaps not so ready to hack after all. |
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"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:wdX_e.13130$eB3.1650@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
<snip>
| Quote: |
That's not true... I have a DVD recorder that works similar to a VCR.
It
will record different qualities and I can get 1, 2, 4 or 6 hours. I've
found that I like the 2 hours for most things. But, I can change it to
4
and not lose a lot of quality. I'll do this if my movies run over 2
hours.
The main difference is that it has to convert to analog and back to
digital, so there is alway some inherent quality loss. Transferring
directly from the tivo and buring as VOB files is a better way to go if
you have the option.
This is (was) of course the option that I want(ed) to work towards. Now it
seems that it may not be worth it. I mean, if I allow it to get an update
for whatever reason, I run the risk of breaking the software. Also having
to
call or go online for a ppv, and who knows what other gotchas will come
up,
minor or otherwise. I'm just not sure anymore, you know?
OTOH - Which recorder do you have? I have heard of quality settings in
some
stand alone recorders.
Harvey
|
My recorder is a Akai, which is a repackaged LiteOn. It has been a good
box. Here is an amazon link to see it:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002A9LRQ/qid=1128044341/sr=8-3/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-6075841-7398530?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846
If that link is too long, just search on Akai DVDRW120.
I bought this in July, 2004 and paid $200 shipped. It seems like that is
about what they are going for now - you would think the price would have
dropped by now.
This is perhaps the more recent version of the same box, but less expensive:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=201741329&SearchEngine=Shopper&SearchTerm=201741329&Type=PE&Category=Comp&Gad=0&dcaid=15889
One major difference. Mine only does DVD+R, the newer LiteOn here does
DVD+R and DVD-R as well as DVD+RW. Learn your media types before you go buy
disks. I made that mistake and had to crawl back to Best Buy - they were
good and took em back, but it hurt my poor little ego being a techno geek
and all that I'd do something like that.
Hope that helps,
Jim |
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