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Iain Halder
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:56 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations?
Iain
Rescued Cats & Kittens Needing Homes
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Alan Shepherd
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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Pay for the DVD to be encrypted, it should still play on a set-top DVD
player, And Nero will not be able to copy it. (But DVDShrink & DVDDecrypter
will).......
| Quote: | I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations? |
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Buchetamo
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:23 am Post subject:
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"Alan Shepherd" <spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Pay for the DVD to be encrypted, it should still play on a set-top DVD
player, And Nero will not be able to copy it. (But DVDShrink &
DVDDecrypter will).......
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations?
A padlock, failing that put DVDs in Safebox
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Mark Burns
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject:
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If you find out how to do it, then you may wish to contact Hollywood as
they would like to know as well!
Cheers... |
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The Wizard of Oz
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Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Anti-Copying Software |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:56:57 +0000, Iain Halder wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
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I'm not sure such a thing exists. Most anti-copy schemes are not reliable.
| Quote: | Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
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If you are concerned with keeping honest people honest, a simple "please
do not copy this DVD" insert would be more effective.
There is more than enough software out there which would allow the casual
user to duplicate your DVD. The only thing which you might possibly
consider remotely effective would be to fix it so the customers computer
*can't* copy DVDs. But that has a whole lot of legal implications. Even
then you would be working with one specific platform because (I think) the
others wouldn't autorun any software from a DVD.
In the end, you want people to purchase and view your product. If they
can't view it (regardless of location or format) then the product is
defective. Therefore it defeats the purpose of creating it in the first
place. If you know the "hardcore" types are going to copy it anyhow then
it's best not to get wrapped up with the process. Don't think of it as
giving in to piracy. Think of it as preventing an ulcer by acknowledging a
reality. A tastefully worded insert into the case is likely to have a
better impact than encryption.
Talking about your .signature file... I picked up a cat from the humane
society about 20 years ago. She was very affectionate to the family and
decided to protect my mother against meter readers and sales people. ;-) |
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Alpha
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:49 am Post subject:
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Wait for Blu Ray. No one will be able to copy it. In fact, you won't be
able to make a recording you can distribute at all ;)
"Mark Burns" <marcus520520@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If you find out how to do it, then you may wish to contact Hollywood as
they would like to know as well!
Cheers...
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Iain Halder
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:54 am Post subject:
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Hi Guys!
Thanks for the quick responses there.
So do you think MACROVISION is not worth it then? Or is that the
better way to go? I've seen ads for commercial duplicators who say
that they can macrovision-enable a disk.
Is this expensive or not worth the cost?
Iain Halder
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC), Iain Halder
<iain_halder@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations?
Iain
Rescued Cats & Kittens Needing Homes
'o'< www.celiahammond.org >'o'
'o'< www.cat77.org.uk >'o'
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Mark Burns
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:02 am Post subject:
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Alpha:
Undoubtedly so. No one has cracked, to my knowledge, ditigal cable
boxes.
But, I do question if they have invented a device that only few will
want. Not because they can't copy, most people don't do that anyway,
but rather pay for a device that must be connected to the internet. We
already have on-demand video, with the most popular films from cable.
I have neighbors who play their wide screen television with 4:3
broadcasts of wide fat people because they don't like bars on the side.
(my theory is that it makes them think that they are thin!) None of
them are clamoring for HD. And we can get that over the air now.
I shall want Blu Ray for data. Do I want it for video? Yes, and no.
I suspect that we can get HD on DVD-9 with mpeg-4 compression, or turn
our homes into a video ipod as Ken has done!
We shall see. I don't expect DVD to disappear for a long, long time.
Maybe ten more years. But I subscribe to the belief that Blu Ray and
HD-DVD are five years too soon, and for the wrong reasons, protect
copyright from the majority who do not care to violate the copyright
anyway!
Cheers...
Mark |
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Cathy De Viney
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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www.ulead.com
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"Iain Halder" <iain_halder@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi,
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations?
Iain
Rescued Cats & Kittens Needing Homes
'o'< www.celiahammond.org >'o'
'o'< www.cat77.org.uk >'o'
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Alpha
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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"Mark Burns" <marcus520520@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Alpha:
Undoubtedly so. No one has cracked, to my knowledge, ditigal cable
boxes.
But, I do question if they have invented a device that only few will
want. Not because they can't copy, most people don't do that anyway,
but rather pay for a device that must be connected to the internet. We
already have on-demand video, with the most popular films from cable.
I have neighbors who play their wide screen television with 4:3
broadcasts of wide fat people because they don't like bars on the side.
(my theory is that it makes them think that they are thin!) None of
them are clamoring for HD. And we can get that over the air now.
I shall want Blu Ray for data. Do I want it for video? Yes, and no.
I suspect that we can get HD on DVD-9 with mpeg-4 compression, or turn
our homes into a video ipod as Ken has done!
We shall see. I don't expect DVD to disappear for a long, long time.
Maybe ten more years. But I subscribe to the belief that Blu Ray and
HD-DVD are five years too soon, and for the wrong reasons, protect
copyright from the majority who do not care to violate the copyright
anyway!
Cheers...
Mark
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There are other ominous signs. CSS has sued several media server companies,
including those who bought CSS licenses, stating that under no circumstances
can movies be served from a central sever in a home. That is a whole area
that Microsoft has been working on. Appanrently, the idea is to use the
ipod model and you would download a movie to the server and it would play
under specified conditions, etc.
This is all moving to everything being pay per view. I wonder if the
general public will buy into it. Hollywood sure likes the idea, since that
what a movie theater is about, anyway. |
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Mark Burns
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject:
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Alpha:
CSS is stupid in my opinion. They can't stop servers from serving
mpegs (at least I don't think so) that we make ourselves. If they want
to lose complete control, that it the best way to go about it. People
can rip DVDs and then play as mpeg. More might learn, if that is what
they need to do. DVDs are going to be around for a long time. So are
video cameras.
CSS could regulate if they are willing to negotiate. License and
protect. Input, no output. There will still be people who can get
around, but there will still be people who leak films before their
release.
Maybe Hollywood can buy enough congressmen to put an inaudible high
pitched sound that turns off video cameras that have to have that
*feature* by law. It might be effective against the law abiding, but
not the clever entrepreneurial pirate. I am kidding, I hope! ;-))
Oh well, time to write our congressmen again:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050927-5354.html
Or time shifting will eventually go away.
Cheers...
Mark |
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Steve
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Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:
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macrovision is pretty much worthless on dvd......it was much more effective
on vhs tapes.
"Iain Halder" <iain_halder@btopenworld.com> skrev i melding
news:7eurj1lhuqcmr7nk48tlptmtatu9ifsa2i@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Hi Guys!
Thanks for the quick responses there.
So do you think MACROVISION is not worth it then? Or is that the
better way to go? I've seen ads for commercial duplicators who say
that they can macrovision-enable a disk.
Is this expensive or not worth the cost?
Iain Halder
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC), Iain Halder
iain_halder@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for software which will allow me to burn video material to
a DVD but enable at the same time some kind of reliable anti-copy
element.
Hard core pirates could probably copy anything so I'm really looking
for software which will prevent casual copying via a computer or a DVD
connected to a DVD or Videotape recorder.
Any recommendations?
Iain
Rescued Cats & Kittens Needing Homes
'o'< www.celiahammond.org >'o'
'o'< www.cat77.org.uk >'o'
Rescued Cats & Kittens Needing Homes
'o'< www.celiahammond.org >'o'
'o'< www.cat77.org.uk >'o' |
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Alpha
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:39 am Post subject:
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"> Or time shifting will eventually go away.
Time-shifting? I think the writing is on the wall, as well-funded lobbyists
for the MPAA are trying to make it unlawful to skip advertisements etc. at
the start of DVDs.
See also, and join the fight, www.eff.org --- or we may lose every right we
had under the original copyright laws. |
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Alpha
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | This is all moving to everything being pay per view. I wonder if the
general public will buy into it. Hollywood sure likes the idea, since
that what a movie theater is about, anyway.
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Few remember, I suspect, that even this one ticket one movie approach is
*not* how it was ca. 1950s-60s. You paid an admission price to get in. At
least where I lived, you could sit in the theater all day long, and they ran
multiple cartoons, newsreels, movies, etc for the one admission price (ca.
75 cents). |
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Mutley
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:04 am Post subject:
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"Mark Burns" <marcus520520@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Alpha:
CSS is stupid in my opinion. They can't stop servers from serving
mpegs (at least I don't think so) that we make ourselves. If they want
to lose complete control, that it the best way to go about it. People
can rip DVDs and then play as mpeg. More might learn, if that is what
they need to do. DVDs are going to be around for a long time. So are
video cameras.
CSS could regulate if they are willing to negotiate. License and
protect. Input, no output. There will still be people who can get
around, but there will still be people who leak films before their
release.
Maybe Hollywood can buy enough congressmen to put an inaudible high
pitched sound that turns off video cameras that have to have that
*feature* by law. It might be effective against the law abiding, but
not the clever entrepreneurial pirate. I am kidding, I hope! ;-))
Oh well, time to write our congressmen again:
What's the point. He's most likely having campaign funds donated |
from the likes of CSS.. |
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