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Kovie
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:01 am Post subject:
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I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing DV-AVI
footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to make sure that
I understand how this process works. From what I've read, these are the
basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
1 - Capture DV footage onto PC HD in DV-AVI format (which preserves the
original quality and is easier to edit).
2 - Edit DV-AVI footage, including cuts, transitions, titles, effects,
overlays, audio, etc., with the resulting file(s) still in DV-AVI format.
3 - Convert finished DV-AVI files into MPEG-2 files.
4 - Author MPEG-2 files into DVD format files, e.g. menus, titles, chapters,
etc.
5 - Burn DVD format files onto DVD blanks.
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete DV-DVD
process?
I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie Maker 2
for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm not sure what
to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and installed the free
trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it isn't able to read DV-AVI
files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I still need a tool to convert
DV-AVI to MPEG-2. What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s)
can I use to do this, and do any of these also feature authoring
capabilities, so I don't have to use multiple apps?
Thanks again!
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen
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Donald Link
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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You could make life a lot simpler and buy Pinnacle Studio 9 Plus. Look
for it on sale and then you can capture, edit the capture and then
burn and convert it in one operation. In other words you will only
have to do 3 step production. First capture in Pinnacle , second edit
within Pinnacle by adding menus, titles, transitions, effects and a
dozen other changes. You can even bring in other AVI, still pictures,
mpeg, etc to include in your DVD. Last step is to stick a blank DVD
in your burner and tell Studio to make the movie. This last step
usually is accomplished by turning your monitor off and waiting for
the rendering to be accomplished. I have done dozen of movies this
way.
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:01:28 GMT, "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen>
wrote:
| Quote: | I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing DV-AVI
footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to make sure that
I understand how this process works. From what I've read, these are the
basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
1 - Capture DV footage onto PC HD in DV-AVI format (which preserves the
original quality and is easier to edit).
2 - Edit DV-AVI footage, including cuts, transitions, titles, effects,
overlays, audio, etc., with the resulting file(s) still in DV-AVI format.
3 - Convert finished DV-AVI files into MPEG-2 files.
4 - Author MPEG-2 files into DVD format files, e.g. menus, titles, chapters,
etc.
5 - Burn DVD format files onto DVD blanks.
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete DV-DVD
process?
I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie Maker 2
for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm not sure what
to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and installed the free
trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it isn't able to read DV-AVI
files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I still need a tool to convert
DV-AVI to MPEG-2. What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s)
can I use to do this, and do any of these also feature authoring
capabilities, so I don't have to use multiple apps?
Thanks again!
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen
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Kovie
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7jnjj15ieki4ftpoth30h6juo9c2vs77m6@4ax.com...
| Quote: | You could make life a lot simpler and buy Pinnacle Studio 9 Plus. Look
for it on sale and then you can capture, edit the capture and then
burn and convert it in one operation. In other words you will only
have to do 3 step production. First capture in Pinnacle , second edit
within Pinnacle by adding menus, titles, transitions, effects and a
dozen other changes. You can even bring in other AVI, still pictures,
mpeg, etc to include in your DVD. Last step is to stick a blank DVD
in your burner and tell Studio to make the movie. This last step
usually is accomplished by turning your monitor off and waiting for
the rendering to be accomplished. I have done dozen of movies this
way.
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:01:28 GMT, "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen
wrote:
I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing
DV-AVI
footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to make sure
that
I understand how this process works. From what I've read, these are the
basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
1 - Capture DV footage onto PC HD in DV-AVI format (which preserves the
original quality and is easier to edit).
2 - Edit DV-AVI footage, including cuts, transitions, titles, effects,
overlays, audio, etc., with the resulting file(s) still in DV-AVI format.
3 - Convert finished DV-AVI files into MPEG-2 files.
4 - Author MPEG-2 files into DVD format files, e.g. menus, titles,
chapters,
etc.
5 - Burn DVD format files onto DVD blanks.
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete DV-DVD
process?
I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie Maker 2
for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm not sure
what
to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and installed the free
trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it isn't able to read DV-AVI
files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I still need a tool to convert
DV-AVI to MPEG-2. What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s)
can I use to do this, and do any of these also feature authoring
capabilities, so I don't have to use multiple apps?
Thanks again!
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen
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I'm sure there are a lot of great apps I could buy that would let me do this
in just a few steps, but that's not what I was asking. I was looking for
free or non-disabled trial apps, not for-pay apps. If I'm happy with a free
app, I'll probably stick with it. If I like a trial app, I'll probably buy
the full version when the trial period expires.
Incidentally, I had a copy of Studio 9SE lying around that came with a
camcorder and installed it, but when I tried to import DV-AVI files, it said
it didn't recognize this file format. When I tried to install the update I
got on Pinnacle's site to see if this would fix this, it crashed partway
through the update, at which point I could no longer run the app. I tried
reinstalling the update, but got the same results. So much for a for-pay app
being useful. This is part of why I'd rather try out some free or trial apps
for now before plunking down some cash.
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Kovie
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Jukka Aho
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:40 am Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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Kovie wrote:
| Quote: | I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing
DV-AVI footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to
make sure that I understand how this process works. From what I've
read, these are the basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
[1 - Capture, 2 - Edit, 3 - Convert, 4 - Author, 5 - Burn]
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete
DV-DVD process?
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Sounds correct to me. That's more or less DVD authoring in nutshell.
| Quote: | I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie
Maker 2 for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm
not sure what to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and
installed the free trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it
isn't able to read DV-AVI files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I
still need a tool to convert DV-AVI to MPEG-2.
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"TMPGEnc DVD Author" will do for step 4, but you missed step 3. "TMPGEnc
Plus" will help you there.
Alternatively, you could use Cinemacraft for step 3 (encoding) and
DVD-lab, DVD-lab Pro or Ulead DVD Workshop for authoring (authoring.)
There are other alternatives as well, of course.
| Quote: | What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s) can I use to
do this, and do any of these also feature authoring capabilities, so I
don't have to use multiple apps?
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As for free (released under an open source license) DVD authoring apps,
I only know of <http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/>, but that doesn't do
menus in its current state of development.
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Grinder
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:12 am Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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Kovie wrote:
| Quote: | "Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7jnjj15ieki4ftpoth30h6juo9c2vs77m6@4ax.com...
You could make life a lot simpler and buy Pinnacle Studio 9 Plus. Look
for it on sale and then you can capture, edit the capture and then
burn and convert it in one operation. In other words you will only
have to do 3 step production. First capture in Pinnacle , second edit
within Pinnacle by adding menus, titles, transitions, effects and a
dozen other changes. You can even bring in other AVI, still pictures,
mpeg, etc to include in your DVD. Last step is to stick a blank DVD
in your burner and tell Studio to make the movie. This last step
usually is accomplished by turning your monitor off and waiting for
the rendering to be accomplished. I have done dozen of movies this
way.
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:01:28 GMT, "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen
wrote:
I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing
DV-AVI
footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to make sure
that
I understand how this process works. From what I've read, these are the
basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
1 - Capture DV footage onto PC HD in DV-AVI format (which preserves the
original quality and is easier to edit).
2 - Edit DV-AVI footage, including cuts, transitions, titles, effects,
overlays, audio, etc., with the resulting file(s) still in DV-AVI format.
3 - Convert finished DV-AVI files into MPEG-2 files.
4 - Author MPEG-2 files into DVD format files, e.g. menus, titles,
chapters,
etc.
5 - Burn DVD format files onto DVD blanks.
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete DV-DVD
process?
I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie Maker 2
for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm not sure
what
to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and installed the free
trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it isn't able to read DV-AVI
files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I still need a tool to convert
DV-AVI to MPEG-2. What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s)
can I use to do this, and do any of these also feature authoring
capabilities, so I don't have to use multiple apps?
Thanks again!
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen
I'm sure there are a lot of great apps I could buy that would let me do this
in just a few steps, but that's not what I was asking. I was looking for
free or non-disabled trial apps, not for-pay apps. If I'm happy with a free
app, I'll probably stick with it. If I like a trial app, I'll probably buy
the full version when the trial period expires.
Incidentally, I had a copy of Studio 9SE lying around that came with a
camcorder and installed it, but when I tried to import DV-AVI files, it said
it didn't recognize this file format. When I tried to install the update I
got on Pinnacle's site to see if this would fix this, it crashed partway
through the update, at which point I could no longer run the app. I tried
reinstalling the update, but got the same results. So much for a for-pay app
being useful. This is part of why I'd rather try out some free or trial apps
for now before plunking down some cash.
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www.videohelp.com has a lot of great information and tutorials,
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Kovie
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:29 am Post subject:
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"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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www.videohelp.com has a lot of great information and tutorials, including
reviews of many software options.
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Thanks. The first thing I actually did was go to this site, but being new to
DVD authoring I found it a bit overwhelming, plus I couldn't find any
generic "How to create DVDs" articles that laid out the basics without being
tied to any one application. That's when I decided to post online.
In any case, I think I've found my short-term solution. Tsunami has trial
versions of its MPEG2 conversion and DVD authoring apps that are only
slightly disabled, but not so much that I can't do what I need to do with
them for my current needs. I already have the others apps I need. I already
did a trial test today and burned a test DVD from some AVI files I have that
worked just fine. This should be enough for now, and once I have a little
experience with this process under my belt I'll decide what to do about a
long-term solution (the trials expire in 14 and 30 days, respectively, so
I'm going to have to get something else pretty soon). Most likely I'll buy a
full-featured app (but probably not Studio, given the problems I've had with
it).
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Kovie
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Jukka Aho
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:31 am Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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Kovie wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks. The first thing I actually did was go to this site, but being
new to DVD authoring I found it a bit overwhelming, plus I couldn't
find any generic "How to create DVDs" articles that laid out the
basics without being tied to any one application. That's when I
decided to post online.
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In that case, reading a couple of books on the subject might not be a
bad idea. For example, Jim Taylor's "DVD Demystified" is a good choice:
<http://www.dvddemystified.com/>
Ralph LaBarge's "DVD Authoring and Production" is another good book
worth checking out (And Amazon even seems to offer both books as a
bundle at a reduced price!):
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1578200822/
102-3877922-3606547>
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znark |
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Mark Burns
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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Would suggest another approach for learning to burn.
1) Get a copy of freeware DvdShrink and DvdDecrypter. www.mrbass.org.
2) Take one of your own, purchased movies, copy to hard drive with
DvdShrink, and burn it to a blank dvd with DvdDecrypter. See how it
plays on your equipment.
Try to reauthor the DVD with Dvd Shrink, using only the main movie.
3) For authoring, if you have more time than money, try DvdAuthorGUI.
http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl?p=guide1
If you wish to save a lot of time, use TmpgDvd Author, as has been
previously suggested. DvdLab Pro is very good, but requires more time.
4) For converting to mpeg from DV, I normaly use a hardware capture
device. I load AVI back into camera, and transfer at a bitrate of
7000.
For more ideas and free software and guides, check out www.doom9.org
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TheFug.
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Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:14:09 GMT, "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen>
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| Quote: | Incidentally, I had a copy of Studio 9SE lying around that came with a
camcorder and installed it, but when I tried to import DV-AVI files, it said
it didn't recognize this file format. When I tried to install the update I
got on Pinnacle's site to see if this would fix this, it crashed partway
through the update, at which point I could no longer run the app. I tried
reinstalling the update, but got the same results. So much for a for-pay app
being useful. This is part of why I'd rather try out some free or trial apps
for now before plunking down some cash.
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The trick with Studio9 is to drag your avi file into the screen of
Studio9 , this way yo get no error messages.
My "dream team" of apps. is CCE basic, Besweet+AC3Machine, DVDLab,
The first and the last are both "pay" apps. but they are realy worth
their money.
Eric. |
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David L. Jones
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Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Questions on DVD creation process |
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Kovie wrote:
| Quote: | I'm trying to create DVDs playable on home DVD players from existing DV-AVI
footage that I captured from a DV camcorder, and am trying to make sure that
I understand how this process works. From what I've read, these are the
basic steps involved in going from DV to DVD:
1 - Capture DV footage onto PC HD in DV-AVI format (which preserves the
original quality and is easier to edit).
2 - Edit DV-AVI footage, including cuts, transitions, titles, effects,
overlays, audio, etc., with the resulting file(s) still in DV-AVI format.
3 - Convert finished DV-AVI files into MPEG-2 files.
4 - Author MPEG-2 files into DVD format files, e.g. menus, titles, chapters,
etc.
5 - Burn DVD format files onto DVD blanks.
Am I missing something here, or is this the correct and complete DV-DVD
process?
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It doesn't need to be that complicated.
You can get one single package to do the whole lot, something like
ULead VideoStudio 9 or Pinicle will. A lot of the video editing
packages (like Ulead and Pinicle) have very restrictive menu creation
though.
Beware, there are two DV-AVI formats, not all packages read both
formats.
I tried Pinicle 7, 8, and 9 but had all of them crash within a few
days. Ulead VideoStudio 9 was the only package which didn't crash on me
after months of editing.
For #2, most packages will not create any "resulting files" they simply
create a project file which references the orginal AVI, sound and image
files on your disk. Then when you tell it to do #3 it reads all the
orginal files and creates your final MPEG-2 file.
You can save into DVD-AVI format if you really want though, not that
there is any real need to do so, it would be so big you can't back it
up anywhere except another hard drive or MiniDV tape.
| Quote: | I've already completed step #1, and intend to use Microsoft Movie Maker 2
for step #2. I have DVD burning software for step #5. But I'm not sure what
to use for steps #3 & #4. Actually, I downloaded and installed the free
trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author 1.6, but it isn't able to read DV-AVI
files (or WMV files, for that matter), so I still need a tool to convert
DV-AVI to MPEG-2. What (preferably freeware or non-disabled trial) app(s)
can I use to do this, and do any of these also feature authoring
capabilities, so I don't have to use multiple apps?
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#3 and #4 is usually done by your video editing package, but you can
use a much fancier package like DVDlab if you have the create really
fancy menus and sound etc.
I had to use DVDlab to create a Dolby Digital sound track (I had
problems with PCM) and author the DVD files. Ulead and Pinnicle don't
handle this.
DVDlab is hard to use at first, but is incredibly powerful. Ulead is
great easy to use editor, but it's aweful at menuing and authoring the
actual DVD.
Ulead Videostudio 9 has a full 30day trial, give it a try.
Dave :) |
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