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Joe
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject:
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I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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David Sommers
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:
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Your price limit eliminates any decent hard drive or SD memory models. And
wanting to be able to edit and produce a good qaulity result eliminates the
DVD models. I suggest what is considered to be the standard for good quality
camcorders, DV tape. You can put at least 90 minutes of high quality DV on a
decent DV tape with most any DV camcorder. In your price range I suggest
looking at the Panasonic 3CCD models PV-GS65 and PV-SG150. I'm suggesting
the 3CCD models in part because I have one. 3CCD technology is what is used
in professional grade camcorders, and Panasonic has several good consumer
grade camcorders with the same technology. The color and detail with a 3CCD
camcorder is just better.
Bye.
"Joe" <abc@xyz.org> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it,
then burn a DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far
more without changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Donald Link
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:27 am Post subject:
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If you want to edit then by all means get the MiniDV. Not sure how
you would buy a camera with only 30 megs that would be useful.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:44:47 -0400, "Joe" <abc@xyz.org> wrote:
| Quote: | I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Joe
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
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Uh, it must have been 30 gigs- I keep forgetting there we're in a world of
gigs, not megs.
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Joe
"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If you want to edit then by all means get the MiniDV. Not sure how
you would buy a camera with only 30 megs that would be useful.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:44:47 -0400, "Joe" <abc@xyz.org> wrote:
I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn
a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more
without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Dimitrios Tzortzakakis
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject:
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I strongly suggest you get a DV camcorder, and preferably a sony-even
consumer camcorders sold for under 600 euro are excellent.If you happen to
have old 8mm or hi8 recordings go for a digital 8-they are also good.On a
cassete you can always fit 90 min of video and easily change to continue,
and the cassete with its protective flap (protecting the tape) is yet much
more robust than any dvd, you might get one scratched before too long.And
the hard drive cannot be "changed" when full, and always the cassete is a
better medium when on the run (hard drives spinning at 7200 rpm and dvd
recorders with a 1 nm tracking accuracy are not good when on the run, IMHO).
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
Ο "Joe" <abc@xyz.org> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
news:11jd3diiis8bo2d@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn
a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more
without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:24 pm Post subject:
Re: confused about buying first video camera, which technolo |
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Joe wrote:
| Quote: | I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Joe
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Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject:
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Trash in what sense? Quality of video or they don't work well? For me, it's
going to be just entertainment, so it's not as critical as my PC computers-
which seem to be far more stable than years ago.
I suppose some cameras are more resistant to damage from dirt and weather
conditions? I didn't think of that before- the ruggedness of the camera.
When I bought my last film camera several years ago it was a Nikon, built
like a tank. If a camera or other such mechanism is flimsy, it's only a
matter of time before I break it.
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Joe
<wholebean@ionmail.com> wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working
or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn
a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more
without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
They're ALL trash now. The days of getting what you
pay for are LONG GONE, so my advice is to live
without it unless you're addicted to grief.
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Joe
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Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject:
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Good ideas everyone! Thanks.
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Joe
"Dimitrios Tzortzakakis" <dimtzort@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I strongly suggest you get a DV camcorder, and preferably a sony-even
consumer camcorders sold for under 600 euro are excellent.If you happen to
have old 8mm or hi8 recordings go for a digital 8-they are also good.On a
cassete you can always fit 90 min of video and easily change to continue,
and the cassete with its protective flap (protecting the tape) is yet much
more robust than any dvd, you might get one scratched before too long.And
the hard drive cannot be "changed" when full, and always the cassete is a
better medium when on the run (hard drives spinning at 7200 rpm and dvd
recorders with a 1 nm tracking accuracy are not good when on the run,
IMHO).
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
Ο "Joe" <abc@xyz.org> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
news:11jd3diiis8bo2d@corp.supernews.com...
I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working
or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn
a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more
without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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Joe
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Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject:
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So, with a DV- is it easy to transfer the digital data from the tape to a
computer? How many megs/gigs of hard drive will 90 minutes of DV tape eat
up?
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Joe
"Dimitrios Tzortzakakis" <dimtzort@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:dhosn8$3kb$1@usenet.otenet.gr...
| Quote: | I strongly suggest you get a DV camcorder, and preferably a sony-even
consumer camcorders sold for under 600 euro are excellent.If you happen to
have old 8mm or hi8 recordings go for a digital 8-they are also good.On a
cassete you can always fit 90 min of video and easily change to continue,
and the cassete with its protective flap (protecting the tape) is yet much
more robust than any dvd, you might get one scratched before too long.And
the hard drive cannot be "changed" when full, and always the cassete is a
better medium when on the run (hard drives spinning at 7200 rpm and dvd
recorders with a 1 nm tracking accuracy are not good when on the run,
IMHO).
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
Ο "Joe" <abc@xyz.org> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
news:11jd3diiis8bo2d@corp.supernews.com...
I understand film cameras and computers, but video is all new to me.
Should I buy DV, DVD or hard drive video? I saw the hard drive models at
Best Buy- one a 20 meg and the other a 30 meg.
Perhaps if I explain my intended use: I work in the forestry/logging
industry and would like to film loggers at work with their logging
machinery, dropping trees, etc. And, people in the woods either working
or
playing- so the film camera should have good quality in those lighting
conditions (in deep woods in New England). I also likely to try almost
anything just for the fun of it- indoors, outdoors.
I'm probably going to want to edit everything- so I thought perhaps
digital
tape would make sense, then move it to my computer and edit it, then burn
a
DVD. But, with the newer hard drive models, you can record far more
without
changing the tape.
I just don't have a clear sense of the pros and cons of the different
technologies- other issues like quality of lens, zooming capability, user
interface, etc- are somewhat less important initially.
I'm willing to spend more to get a better product but I don't want to go
much over $700-700.
Also, any recommendations for editing software? My computer doesn't yet
have
a DVD burner, any recommendations on that item?
Thanks,
Joe
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