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Steve H
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
I have a pair of Danbury elect output transformers, I am told that they are
from a mullard 520 amp, are they any good? and will they work with a pair of
6L6's??
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izozaya
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:06 am Post subject:
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The ones you have were used by Maplin Electronics in their Mullard
5-20 kits.
Please note that neither these kits are vintage at all nor they are
exact clones of the Mullard design (they feature silicon
rectification). Still these Danbury trafos are pretty good. I have a
couple of them, bought from Maplin about four years ago, in a
Push-Pull 4654 amp - really nice sounding.
In your amp, a couple of 6L6 in push-pull will run fine, plus you can
always migrate to EL34 easily.
Regards,
Ignacio
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I have a pair of Danbury elect output transformers, I am told that they are
from a mullard 520 amp, are they any good? and will they work with a pair of
6L6's??
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Andy Evans
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:
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I've used the Danbury Maplins 6.6K and also the bigger version of it (was sold
by Maplin as an upgrade). The current Maplins one (smaller) is more detailed
but the larger one has a fuller tone and better bass. They're both fine - no
worries. I've also seen a fr. graph which is very smooth.
Just a question on the 4654 - I have some, of different kinds. Basically EL50s
but mine are either octal base or P base. what's your experiences with these
rare tubes? I have a few EL50 plus some EL39 as well. (and a quad of EL35 but
that's rather different). Andy
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izozaya
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:13 am Post subject:
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Hi Andy!
All the 4654 samples I happen to have are just like metal base EL34's
but with a P socket (AKA Transcontinental) and the top cap (plate).
However though, plate dissipation is a bit lower (18W). My experience
is very good overall, but needed quite a lot of trial and error before
achieving a satisfactory performance. The final recipe features fixed
grid bias, triode connection, and 375V/50mA operating point. Around
12dB of negative feedback helps keeping the bass tight and controlled
without noticeable effects in the higher frequencies.
Best regards
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| Quote: | I've used the Danbury Maplins 6.6K and also the bigger version of it (was sold
by Maplin as an upgrade). The current Maplins one (smaller) is more detailed
but the larger one has a fuller tone and better bass. They're both fine - no
worries. I've also seen a fr. graph which is very smooth.
Just a question on the 4654 - I have some, of different kinds. Basically EL50s
but mine are either octal base or P base. what's your experiences with these
rare tubes? I have a few EL50 plus some EL39 as well. (and a quad of EL35 but
that's rather different). Andy
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Jim McDonald
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject:
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"Andy Evans" <aeatartsandmedia@aol.comnohawker> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I've used the Danbury Maplins 6.6K and also the bigger version of it (was
sold
by Maplin as an upgrade). The current Maplins one (smaller) is more
detailed
but the larger one has a fuller tone and better bass. They're both fine -
no
worries. I've also seen a fr. graph which is very smooth.
Just a question on the 4654 - I have some, of different kinds. Basically
EL50s
but mine are either octal base or P base. what's your experiences with
these
rare tubes? I have a few EL50 plus some EL39 as well. (and a quad of EL35
but
that's rather different). Andy
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Hi, Andy ...
The Maplin/Mullard 520 clone was a design which appeared in Maplin's house
magazine some years ago. It started off as a clean sheet of paper,.... new
design, .... called the Millenium amp .... Maplin's resident gurus did the
design and Maplin sold the whole lot as a kit for DIY people..
EF86, LTP ECC83 with unequal anode load resistors to balance the outputs and
2 x EL34s equals 20W.... I seem to remember that the idea was to show the
DIY constructor what could be achieved with modern passives, ... polyprop
caps and 1% MF resistors, ... and hot glass bottles....
Selecting dedicated audio valves played safe but as we all know, the optimum
working points are known and with, as I remember, a 350V HT line ... they
ended up with a circuit which was pretty much the same as a '520' .... I
remember a comment in the final construction article ... there's nothing new
under the Sun and Mullard got it pretty close ... well they would do, ...
they made the valves !!
The OPTs and mains transformers came from Danbury Electronics in Chelmsford
who, at the time, produced much of Maplin's transformer range.
Over the years, Dave Brooks/Danbury has done me a number of 'specials' and
'one offs' ... My remote LCLC PSU uses Dave's trannies and chokes ....
350/400/450/500/550/600 secondaries and a primary tapped at 220/230/240
means anything is possible ... at 750mA !!!! .... you need a wheelbarrow
to move this thing ..
He's also done me OPT's ... 50W 3.8k and huge 100W 5ks ...
If you need 'specials' .... talk to Dave ... he's in the phone book ...
Mention my name, ... Jim in Stoke on Trent ... he might not remember me but
he's a nice guy ...
cheers
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Andy Evans
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject:
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Over the years, Dave Brooks/Danbury has done me a number of 'specials' He's
also done me OPT's ... 50W 3.8k and huge 100W 5ks ... Jim in Stoke on Trent >
I have 3 amps with the same input circuit - 2C22 into 12b4 concertina into the
output stage. With 7591s the larger stack 6.6K was fuller in tone with more
bass, while the current Maplins 6.6K was more detailed. With EL84s the current
6.6K was better than the OPTs on the Leak Stereo 20 - cleaner all round and
more detailed. I was surprised it sounded so good with EL84s - I just put them
in as a stopgap for EL86s when I take the B+ down a bit, but they may just stay
in there. The bottom line is that for £29.99 the 6.6K Maplins OPT is an
absolute bargain. They clearly got the design right on this one. Add the
Maplins mains trannie at £29.99 and throw in two chokes at £6.99 per monoblok
and you have all your iron for £73.96 per monoblok. Now that's seriously good.
Staying with Maplins, add some LCR motor run polypropylenes for the PSU, and
use a hybrid bridge with some damper diodes like 6BY5G or 6DT4 (6AU4 etc) all
off the same 6.3v supply and you have a very serious pair of amps. All you then
have to do is phone Edicron for some 7591, 2a3/6B4G Sovteks, 6N30s, use Allen
Wright's cascode front end and you should have a true audiophile amp for
peanuts.
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Steve H
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:19 pm Post subject:
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Thanks all,
It looks like they are the maplin version, I've built one monoblock and
using 6L6G's it sounds good, but I have just tested it with 350B's and the
detail is amazing. All I need now is another pair of 350B's for the other
side :c)
Steve H
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| Quote: | Over the years, Dave Brooks/Danbury has done me a number of 'specials'
He's
also done me OPT's ... 50W 3.8k and huge 100W 5ks ... Jim in Stoke on
Trent
I have 3 amps with the same input circuit - 2C22 into 12b4 concertina into
the
output stage. With 7591s the larger stack 6.6K was fuller in tone with
more
bass, while the current Maplins 6.6K was more detailed. With EL84s the
current
6.6K was better than the OPTs on the Leak Stereo 20 - cleaner all round
and
more detailed. I was surprised it sounded so good with EL84s - I just put
them
in as a stopgap for EL86s when I take the B+ down a bit, but they may just
stay
in there. The bottom line is that for £29.99 the 6.6K Maplins OPT is an
absolute bargain. They clearly got the design right on this one. Add the
Maplins mains trannie at £29.99 and throw in two chokes at £6.99 per
monoblok
and you have all your iron for £73.96 per monoblok. Now that's seriously
good.
Staying with Maplins, add some LCR motor run polypropylenes for the PSU,
and
use a hybrid bridge with some damper diodes like 6BY5G or 6DT4 (6AU4 etc)
all
off the same 6.3v supply and you have a very serious pair of amps. All you
then
have to do is phone Edicron for some 7591, 2a3/6B4G Sovteks, 6N30s, use
Allen
Wright's cascode front end and you should have a true audiophile amp for
peanuts.
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Wbittle
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
The Mullard 5-20 was a dual EL34 push pull cathode biased amp. It was
rated at 20 watts, but could produce close to double that with only 1.2%
distortion. So, this transformer should handle any amp up to around 35
watts. The 5-20 called for an ultra-linear 6600 ohm plate to plate
resistance output transformer. These should not only have the two plate
taps and the center tap, but two 20 - 40% screen taps. These will work
great with the 6L6. Try to keep plate and screen voltage to 450v or less
for the 6L6 and it should work great. In fact, I built a 5-20 as my
first amp project back in the dark ages when I was a teenager. The 5-20
will work with either the EL34 or 6L6 and deliver quite good results.
Bill B.
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I have a pair of Danbury elect output transformers, I am told that they are
from a mullard 520 amp, are they any good? and will they work with a pair of
6L6's??
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Ruud Broens
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:06 am Post subject:
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Hi, Andy. Have you given the 'telco tubbies' a tryout yet :-) ?
Hope to finally sniff some solderin'fumes next year, just
too busy atm.
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Andy Evans
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject:
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Remind me which were the Telco? ECC40? If so - not yet. Greets, Andy
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Ruud Broens
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The loctals, 5B /110M,
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Andy Evans
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject:
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The loctals, 5B /110M,
Rudy
Ah right! No - I should try something - maybe trioded? How have you been using
them? Andy
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Ruud Broens
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Hm, gotta confess, got a bit bored getting trioded curves, *am* a bit of a
freak, like getting the gridvoltage withing 1 millivolt with each 'take' :)
but as far as i got, they looked fine, 250V 40 mA a good start.
Bye
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