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Mike Rivers
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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In article <_d6dnSW1NvKrJTXcRVn-2A@omsoft.com> nopsam@nospam.net writes:
| Quote: | So don't believe anything besides Full, Half-full, and Change Me Now.
These, of course, are things you already know.
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And "Change Me Now" is "Forget it!"
We ARE talking about printers here, aren't we, and not babies, or
electrolytic capactiors."
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Chris Pickett
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:16 am Post subject:
Re: Archiving, WAS:: Are CD-R labels safe to put on masters? |
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Chel van Gennip wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:42:57 +0100, agent86 wrote:
although I think
you will have to copy to a new format during this time because all
formats will become obsolete in time.
And, unfortunately, newer formats become obsolete MUCH faster than older
ones, simply because no manufacturer WANTS to build a really good CD-R
or DVD-R drive. A hundred years from now, there will STILL be Ampex &
Studer tape machines in service. Whether there will be any usable tapes
might be a different question altogether.)
I doubt both the availability of the machines and the readability of the
tapes in 20 years. Mainstream solutions like CD and DVD tend to last
a bit longer.
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How can you make such a call when CDs have only been around for 20
years, DVDs for 10? Google for "cd bit rot" or "cd bitrot". Redundant
hard drive arrays are IMO the only good digital backup solution.
Chris |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:19 am Post subject:
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S O'Neill wrote:
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don't believe anything besides Full, Half-full, and Change Me Now.
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Not the case on my Styplus Photo 960. Can't speak to other models since this is my first inkjet. |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:58 am Post subject:
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Chris Pickett wrote:
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Redundant hard drive
arrays are IMO the only good digital backup solution.
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As long as the arrays themselves are redundant, the data are regularly verified (using checksum or similar methods) and the whole system (arrays, network, and algorithms) stays up all the time.
Scary as all this sounds, it's the best answer I've been able to construct so far.
In another 5 years or so, the whole array should fit on a single optical disk, at which time you make a dozen copies and spread them around... |
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james of tucson
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject:
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Might it be worth getting a *master* transcribed as a proper
CD, instead of a CDR?
For CDR, you gotta balance the risk of contamination by a
label, against the risk of loss or misidentification by not
being labeled. If you don't label the disc, definitely seal
the well-labeled envelope.
Anyway, I'm wondering about using Sharpies. (Alcohol-based permanent
marker, extremely common in the States.)
Has anyone ever experienced a problem using a Sharpie to label CDR?
The vendors who sell "CD Marking Pens" claim you should not use a
Sharpie, but guess what they sell as an alternative? An alcohol-based
felt tip permanent marker, AKA, a Sharpie. |
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Richard Kuschel
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject:
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That's why they can sell the printers so cheaply. Actually a cartridge
is about $60 at Office Depot, roughly the same as a cartridge for
about the same size/speed printer, but there are cheaper aftermarket
HP cartridges and I haven't seen any for the Brother printers (yet,
anyway).
I've had my current Epson inkjet since 2000, and even with aftermarket
cartridges, I'm sure I've spent more on ink than the printer cost, but
it's still pretty cheap for the capability.
I suspect that, as usual, I'll do nothing (except maybe order a couple
more ink cartridges) until the current printer dies. And, no, I don't
do refills. I don't print that much and it's not worth the mess.
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I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
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I bought a refill kit for inkjets at Costco for $17 and it seems to work well
with refilling the Epson cartridges {even the multi color photo cartridges)
A little messy if you aren't really careful, but once you mod the cartridges to
accept the ink, it goes really quickly.
Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty |
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Glenn Dowdy
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
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"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:10qdk9vni9k1ke1@corp.supernews.com...
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The stricter requirements for DVD relate to the rotational speed,
not the nature of the sandwich layers of the disc.
52x CD-R and 16x DVDR both are close to 10k RPM, which is the limitation of |
the motors and the ability of the material not to come apart.
Glenn D. |
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