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Scott Dorsey
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
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John L Rice <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for the additions Scott. I was just assuming that there must be some
decent studios in Atlanta just because it's so large etc.
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There are, but I don't know of any good places selling studio gear. There
used to be a bunch, but they mostly have got taken over by the chains these
days. Even Rhythm City is just another chain now.
| Quote: | ( hey, maybe we
should go dumpster diving out behind the CNN building . . I bet they throw
out all kinds of cool stuff ;-)
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I got all of my 77DXes from the dumpsters behind WGST. I think I got some
EV 664s from a trashbin at a studio that shall remain nameless, and for
years I was using an audio-follow-video console that Master Sound was going
to send to the crusher.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Sue G. Wilkinson
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
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mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:<znr1101759713k@trad>...
| Quote: | In article <5dfa6183.0411291004.6a254366@posting.google.com> sue42155@yahoo.com writes:
Hey Mike,
Could you make some suggestions of good medium priced preamps? Maybe
your favorite.
I'm not really a preamp guy. The only outboard preamp I have is a
Great River and that's only because my name is Rivers and I got a
Great Deal on it. I just use the preamps on my Souncraft console.
I'm just about to hook up the Rode K2
with the Eureka here at home. So I hope I don't blow anything up. I've
turned on the phantom power on my D1600. Is this correct?
The D1600 is a recording workstation? If so, then no, that's not
correct. Turn on the phantom power on the Eureka, and connect the
Eureka output to a line input on the D1600. You won't do any harm,
unless you connect the Eureka output to a mic input with phantom power
on (which may damage the Eureka's output stage).
Hope it's not too late.
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Thanks Mike.... |
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:23 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:09:52 GMT, walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich)
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| Quote: | Great River MP1-NV - More expensive, list $1395, but in the long run
perhaps worth it. This is top shelf stuff:
www.greatriverelectronics.com
I have used all of these and they are all good tools. My favorite
day-in/day-out mic preamp remains my Great River MP2-MH.
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What he said... You'll never be sorry if you buy one of these... it
will bring out the best of any mic you own.
Al |
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:23 am Post subject:
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On 29 Nov 2004 14:17:12 -0500, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
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The PL-20 is pretty much the same as the RE-20 and sometimes can be found
cheaper.
It is the same, other than color, but it was sold through a different dealer
network. It's no longer sold, so it only turns up used. If you buy a really
ratty half-destroyed one, EV will rebuild them for a very minimal charge, too.
I really like EV.
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I just picked up a used PL-20 for $230, (actually I traded some guitar
pickups and a little bit of cash for it). It's nice to know that EV
will fix it cheaply if needed. I guess they are the opposite of Beyer
who seem to want an arm and a leg to service stuff.
Al |
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:23 am Post subject:
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Here ya go...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64449&item=3766055178&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
A $100 bid would probably get it.
Al
On 29 Nov 2004 16:48:28 -0800, cdelfaro@homesoc.com (Chris Del Faro)
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| Quote: | IMHO the Studio Projects T3 should also be included in the shortlist.
Their website is www.studioprojectsusa.com
A certain soprano (aka Dolly Parton) sold millions of records at RCA
using an
Electro-Voice RE15. (the RE16 can be considered too) The RE15 has been
discontinued, and Dolly's is probably still inside a RCA vault <g>.
Elvis' main vocal mic at RCA was also the RE15 BTW.
Ebay is the easiest spot now to pick up a RE15 (also spelled RE-15).
But they're so cheap they're worth trying out sometime to add to
whatever
condenser(s) you select.
Another EV dynamic worth a shot is the 635a omni.
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Mike Rivers
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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In article <63b53f9b.0411291648.ec13ea4@posting.google.com> cdelfaro@homesoc.com writes:
Just one of many.
| Quote: | A certain soprano (aka Dolly Parton) sold millions of records at RCA
using an Electro-Voice RE15.
Elvis' main vocal mic at RCA was also the RE15 BTW.
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Famous people don't necessarily define the best mics, it's just what
happened to work for them while they were in the process of getting
famous. Makes for good stories, though.
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Mike Rivers
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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In article <10qnma5nii2pd1e@corp.supernews.com> Drummer@ImJohn.com writes:
| Quote: | In addition to what Mike said I'm 'pretty sure' that you don't even want the
phantom on for the Eureka either, since the K2 is a tube mic with an
external power supply box ( right? or am I cornfused? ).
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How can anyone keep all those mic models straight unless they own the
mic? But then Rode made a tube mic that was phantom powered. Or maybe
that was the other guys.
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John L Rice
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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In article <10qnma5nii2pd1e@corp.supernews.com> Drummer@ImJohn.com writes:
In addition to what Mike said I'm 'pretty sure' that you don't even want
the
phantom on for the Eureka either, since the K2 is a tube mic with an
external power supply box ( right? or am I cornfused? ).
How can anyone keep all those mic models straight unless they own the
mic? But then Rode made a tube mic that was phantom powered. Or maybe
that was the other guys.
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Hi Mike,
I know what you mean. I think that very fancy/cool looking Gefell mic is a
tube mic that requires phantom power . . . and with BLUE making phantom
powered dynamics and Royer making phantom powered ribbons . . it's like the
end of the world ( "cats and dogs . . living together" ).
I own the Rode NTV, which is a tube mic and doesn't need phantom. I thought
the K2 was loosely the third generation of the NTV ( NTV -> NTK -> K2 ) but
I wasn't sure until I just looked it up and it does have an external power
supply.
So Sue, you should just try running your K2 with phantom power off on your
other devices. I don't think it will have hurt anything if you left the
phantom power on for a little while though since I've run phantom into my
NTV a couple times and nothing was damaged.
Best of luck!
John L Rice
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Mike Rivers
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:06 am Post subject:
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In article <10qp39een298ne9@corp.supernews.com> Drummer@ImJohn.com writes:
| Quote: | So Sue, you should just try running your K2 with phantom power off on your
other devices. I don't think it will have hurt anything if you left the
phantom power on for a little while though since I've run phantom into my
NTV a couple times and nothing was damaged.
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The rule is pretty simple - if the mic requires phantom power, it
needs to be turned on in the device to which the mic is directly
connected. If the mic doesn't require phantom power - either because
it has no electronics or has its own power supply, then leave phantom
power off.
In general, professional microphones are designed so that they won't
be damaged if phantom power is applied when it's not required, but
defective cables can result in the voltage applied where it shouldn't
be.
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Lou Gimenez
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:08 am Post subject:
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for a little more than the TLM 103 you should check out a Peluso 2247. If
you like a bright mic try a Soundelux U195. But lately here between a U87 in
great shape, a Soundelux U195 and the Peluso 2247. The Peluso has been
winning out
--Lou Gimenez
The Music Lab
2" 24track w all the Goodies
www.musiclabnyc.com
| Quote: | From: sue42155@yahoo.com (Sue G. Wilkinson)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:38:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Best medium priced mic for female vocals
"Neil Henderson" <neil.henderson@sbcglobal.netNOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Sue G. Wilkinson" <sue42155@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm looking for the best medium priced mic for female vocals. I'm a
soprano and my dynamic range is extremely wide along with my volume
levels. My lower notes tend to be more breathy and my higher notes are
very loud and belted out.
Then a B.L.U.E. Blueberry might be a good mic for you, especially if you
like to work the mic close-in. It can take the high SPL's on your higher
notes without sounding raspy, and it has a bit of rolled-off sound on the
low end, which means your breathiness will come through without having
proximity effect issues on your lower notes.
Hey Neil,
Thanks for responding Neil. The B.L.U.E. was actually what everyone
was high on at the store and I also heard Sting uses one of the really
expensive ones with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunatley, it
didn't sound that good with my voice, but from what you've described,
that is exactly what I need in a mic, so when I go back to get the
Neumann, I'll try the B.L.U.E. again.
I have two different projects: one more ambient in nature, and the
second a heavy R&B sound that is reminiscent of Staxs Volts stuff.
Please give a listen at www.suewilkinson.com.
Have anything on mp3 or .wav? I disdain using the Real Audio virus.
I could email you a couple of things.
I've taken home a Rode
K2 which sounded fairly good at Guitar Center run dry through pro
tools. I've also brought home a Eureka E2 preamp. I tried several mics
and narrowed it down to the cheaper Neunamm
Are you referring to the TLM-103?
Sorry for my ignorance, but as far as I can see it's called Rode K2..
It's the condenser mic that comes with the power supply and shock
mount. It has omni, cardioid and figure eight polar patters.
I also wondered what you might think of the AKG
414?
Personally I like 'em a lot for certain things, but I've never found a lead
vocal that I couldn't find a better mic for.
It doesn't seem to impress many people any more, but I've gotten some
vocal performances that were pretty good on it.
btw, are you familiar with the PreSonus Eureka preamp? I'm not at all
familiar with preamp, so I just went with what the salesman suggested.
Neil Henderson |
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