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Bob
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:
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Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
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nb
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject:
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"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
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It's generally not recommended because it can upset the balance of the DVD
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Bill McCutcheon
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | "Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
It's generally not recommended because it can upset the balance of the
DVD while spinning in the drive.
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Indeed! Or, worse yet, they come loose and gum up the machine. A
felt-tip marker works just fine. Sharpie, for example, makes CD/DVD
markers in several colors.
-- Bill McC. |
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David Chien
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:59 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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Bob wrote:
| Quote: | Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
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Some say that it'll cause problems, but any properly applied label
will be fine. Keep in mind that the CD drives won't go 'bonker's like
some say - most of them do CLAMP the disc, so they're not going anywhere.
Also, while the labels can cause both vertical and horizontal shifts
in balance, the vertical aspect is minimal due to the relative flatness
of the label itself. The horizontal shift can cause an imbalance like a
wheel off balance, but again, unless the disc is spinning near the upper
bounds of 16x, it won't cause much trouble in a player since the disc
will be clamped in position.
The latest players also have laser heads and optics that move and
shift to focus accurately on changing disc orientations relative to the
optics, so no need to worry about discs that are a little off either.
For the most part, simply label, press with fingers to make sure the
entire label and edges are stuck to the surface and that no part of the
label lies off the top surface, and you should be fine for the most part.
I've never had any labeled CD or DVD stick, break, not read or write,
etc. in any of the CD/DVD drives I burn and read with. Neato brand labels. |
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Biz
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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Every disk ever given to me that has had a label on it(a dozen or so) has
caused problems, so your mileage may vary. All but one were fine after
carefully removing the labels and cleaning the adhesive surface off. Better
to be safe than sorry. You can always buy printable media and a cd/dvd
capable printer, or use a proper permanent marker like those available from
Sharpie...
"David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Bob wrote:
Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
Some say that it'll cause problems, but any properly applied label
will be fine. Keep in mind that the CD drives won't go 'bonker's like
some say - most of them do CLAMP the disc, so they're not going anywhere.
Also, while the labels can cause both vertical and horizontal shifts
in balance, the vertical aspect is minimal due to the relative flatness
of the label itself. The horizontal shift can cause an imbalance like a
wheel off balance, but again, unless the disc is spinning near the upper
bounds of 16x, it won't cause much trouble in a player since the disc
will be clamped in position.
The latest players also have laser heads and optics that move and
shift to focus accurately on changing disc orientations relative to the
optics, so no need to worry about discs that are a little off either.
For the most part, simply label, press with fingers to make sure the
entire label and edges are stuck to the surface and that no part of the
label lies off the top surface, and you should be fine for the most part.
I've never had any labeled CD or DVD stick, break, not read or write,
etc. in any of the CD/DVD drives I burn and read with. Neato brand
labels. |
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ElJerid
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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"Biz" <biznospam@notatt.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Every disk ever given to me that has had a label on it(a dozen or so) has
caused problems, so your mileage may vary. All but one were fine after
carefully removing the labels and cleaning the adhesive surface off.
Better
to be safe than sorry. You can always buy printable media and a cd/dvd
capable printer, or use a proper permanent marker like those available
from
Sharpie...
"David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
news:dfq527$bnl$1@news.service.uci.edu...
Bob wrote:
Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
Some say that it'll cause problems, but any properly applied label
will be fine. Keep in mind that the CD drives won't go 'bonker's like
some say - most of them do CLAMP the disc, so they're not going anywhere.
Also, while the labels can cause both vertical and horizontal shifts
in balance, the vertical aspect is minimal due to the relative flatness
of the label itself. The horizontal shift can cause an imbalance like a
wheel off balance, but again, unless the disc is spinning near the upper
bounds of 16x, it won't cause much trouble in a player since the disc
will be clamped in position.
The latest players also have laser heads and optics that move and
shift to focus accurately on changing disc orientations relative to the
optics, so no need to worry about discs that are a little off either.
For the most part, simply label, press with fingers to make sure the
entire label and edges are stuck to the surface and that no part of the
label lies off the top surface, and you should be fine for the most part.
I've never had any labeled CD or DVD stick, break, not read or write,
etc. in any of the CD/DVD drives I burn and read with. Neato brand
labels.
After having lot of problems while reading labeled DVD's, I found out that |
the label was faulty. So I decided to try some different (8) brands. The
only one that works fine (up to now) is Neato.
Reason of problems was the glue that is used. Most readers are running
relatively warm, which causes the glue to dissolve and the label to become
loose, with air bubbles appearing. Sometimes very small bubbles, but enough
to cause reading errors and sometimes lock-up of the reader.
And as said earlier, in those cases, just removing the label and cleaning
the DVD solved the problem.
In my opinion, it's a shame that so many brands sell a product that does
absolutely not fit for the job. |
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Camper
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Is there some kind of problem putting a label on a DVD +RW disc used
in a DVDR for recording?
It's generally not recommended because it can upset the balance of the
DVD while spinning in the drive.
Indeed! Or, worse yet, they come loose and gum up the machine. A
felt-tip marker works just fine. Sharpie, for example, makes CD/DVD
markers in several colors.
-- Bill McC.
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The only DVD discs I have had problems with are ones with labels. Buying a
printer that prints directly to discs solved the problem. |
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George
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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ElJerid wrote:
| Quote: | "David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
news:dfq527$bnl$1@news.service.uci.edu...
Bob wrote:
I've never had any labeled CD or DVD stick, break, not read or write,
etc. in any of the CD/DVD drives I burn and read with. Neato brand
labels.
After having lot of problems while reading labeled DVD's, I found out that
the label was faulty. So I decided to try some different (8) brands. The
only one that works fine (up to now) is Neato.
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I make 10 to 20 DVDs per month for friends and myself using printed
labels (Neato) and have never had one fail or cause a problem. Some are
now several years old and holding up well.
Georeg |
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Bob
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:45:08 -0500, George <steber@execpc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I make 10 to 20 DVDs per month for friends and myself using printed
labels (Neato) and have never had one fail or cause a problem. Some are
now several years old and holding up well.
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I suspect the quality of the label material plays a crucial role.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson |
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ME
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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Another person like me who also blows the "don't put labels on DVD myth"
that so many KNOW IT ALLS on here carry on.
I have done 100's and NEVER had one problem. They need to buy a better DVD
burner, not some Ching Foo Yuck brand.
Also no discs named Toyo Fooyung or whatever they call them. Use some
Memorex or other name brand. Hell, I have had GREAT results from Staples
branded DVD-R discs.
"George" <steber@execpc.com> wrote in message
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ElJerid wrote:
"David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
I've never had any labeled CD or DVD stick, break, not read or
write,
etc. in any of the CD/DVD drives I burn and read with. Neato brand
labels.
After having lot of problems while reading labeled DVD's, I found out
that
the label was faulty. So I decided to try some different (8) brands. The
only one that works fine (up to now) is Neato.
I make 10 to 20 DVDs per month for friends and myself using printed
labels (Neato) and have never had one fail or cause a problem. Some are
now several years old and holding up well.
Georeg |
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Bob
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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On , "ME" <Not@this.One> wrote:
| Quote: | Also no discs named Toyo Fooyung or whatever they call them. Use some
Memorex or other name brand. Hell, I have had GREAT results from Staples
branded DVD-R discs.
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Burning success depends on the combination of the burner and the
media. The only way to know is either from your own experience or
credible reports.
However, there are two brands that burn reliably in the widest number
of burners - Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim. See the forum
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
I am currently working thru a batch of 8x ProdataF01 discs branded by
FujuFilm (Sams's Club) and MemorWrecks (Worst Buy). These would not
burn reliably with a Sony/LiteOn burner, even at 4x, but they do burn
reliably at 8x on a NEC 3540/1.W5.
Your BumFuq brand could work with a particular burner and yet fail
miserably with another particular burner.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson |
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ME
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:21 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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Just because they do not burn with YOUR drive does NOT make the discs
unreliable. In MOST cases it is most likely poor firmware of the drive
ITSELF. If a disc is created to the DVD specification it "should" work in
any drive that supports the standard. In reality SOME drives are better than
others at meeting the DVD specifications.
*********"God Bless America and thank God we have President George W. Bush
leading our country **********
"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On , "ME" <Not@this.One> wrote:
Also no discs named Toyo Fooyung or whatever they call them. Use some
Memorex or other name brand. Hell, I have had GREAT results from Staples
branded DVD-R discs.
Burning success depends on the combination of the burner and the
media. The only way to know is either from your own experience or
credible reports.
However, there are two brands that burn reliably in the widest number
of burners - Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim. See the forum
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
I am currently working thru a batch of 8x ProdataF01 discs branded by
FujuFilm (Sams's Club) and MemorWrecks (Worst Buy). These would not
burn reliably with a Sony/LiteOn burner, even at 4x, but they do burn
reliably at 8x on a NEC 3540/1.W5.
Your BumFuq brand could work with a particular burner and yet fail
miserably with another particular burner.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson |
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GMAN
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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In article <43239ad4.20076000@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov wrote:
| Quote: | On , "ME" <Not@this.One> wrote:
Also no discs named Toyo Fooyung or whatever they call them. Use some
Memorex or other name brand. Hell, I have had GREAT results from Staples
branded DVD-R discs.
Burning success depends on the combination of the burner and the
media. The only way to know is either from your own experience or
credible reports.
However, there are two brands that burn reliably in the widest number
of burners - Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim. See the forum
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
I am currently working thru a batch of 8x ProdataF01 discs branded by
FujuFilm (Sams's Club) and MemorWrecks (Worst Buy). These would not
burn reliably with a Sony/LiteOn burner, even at 4x, but they do burn
reliably at 8x on a NEC 3540/1.W5.
Your BumFuq brand could work with a particular burner and yet fail
miserably with another particular burner.
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Isnt the BumFuq disk made by Benq? ;p |
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ME
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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More likely the DVD Drive. Alot of people on here that complain are likely
using $25 el-crappo brand from some Chinese computer store front on the west
side of town.
"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:45:08 -0500, George <steber@execpc.com> wrote:
I make 10 to 20 DVDs per month for friends and myself using printed
labels (Neato) and have never had one fail or cause a problem. Some are
now several years old and holding up well.
I suspect the quality of the label material plays a crucial role.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson |
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Bob
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Disc Label |
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On , "ME" <Not@this.One> wrote:
Buried deep in the bowels of the drive is a table of acceptable media
and its burning strategy. Find out what those media are and it makes
no difference what the pedigree of the drive is. They are all made by
a few huge manufacturers anyway - economy of scale.
| Quote: | More likely the DVD Drive. Alot of people on here that complain are likely
using $25 el-crappo brand from some Chinese computer store front on the west
side of town.
"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:4321cb09.2606703@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:45:08 -0500, George <steber@execpc.com> wrote:
I make 10 to 20 DVDs per month for friends and myself using printed
labels (Neato) and have never had one fail or cause a problem. Some are
now several years old and holding up well.
I suspect the quality of the label material plays a crucial role.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
"What is history but the story of how politicians have
squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?"
--Thomas Sowell |
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