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Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:42 am Post subject:
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In terms of recording quality, those big brand (e.g. panasonic,
pioneer, sony, etc) DVD recorders do better than those unknown brand
recorders? Since the recording is digital, I don't see a reason why
some are better than others.
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Moo
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:25 am Post subject:
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Personally I haven't found one DVD Recorder that can match a good vhs
recorder. My Panasonic £100 VHS has far better quality in Extended Play mode
than any DVD Recorder I have seen even when they are recording in "High
Quality",
admittedly I have only tested three dvd recorders.
I challenge anyone to say their dvd (tv) recordings are better than those
recorded on any recent Panasonic vcr.
Mike.
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| Quote: | In terms of recording quality, those big brand (e.g. panasonic,
pioneer, sony, etc) DVD recorders do better than those unknown brand
recorders? Since the recording is digital, I don't see a reason why
some are better than others.
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Jeff G
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:48 am Post subject:
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It depends on your input source. E.g. if you're recording a cruddy
analog (or low-res digital) cable TV signal, VHS will do just fine.
"Moo" <fake_address@.com> wrote in message news:1126128373.20363.0@echo.uk.clara.net...
| Quote: | Personally I haven't found one DVD Recorder that can match a good vhs
recorder. My Panasonic £100 VHS has far better quality in Extended Play mode
than any DVD Recorder I have seen even when they are recording in "High
Quality",
admittedly I have only tested three dvd recorders.
I challenge anyone to say their dvd (tv) recordings are better than those
recorded on any recent Panasonic vcr.
Mike.
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In terms of recording quality, those big brand (e.g. panasonic,
pioneer, sony, etc) DVD recorders do better than those unknown brand
recorders? Since the recording is digital, I don't see a reason why
some are better than others.
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David Chien
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:24 am Post subject:
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1) the encoder algorithms differ. Optimized ones can do better.
2) the electronics better - lower noise paths, etc. = better signal from
the analog input.
3) the tv tuner's better = lower noise, better sensitivity, etc.
4) the noise reduction, chroma filters, etc. are different.
There's a lot of analog signal processing that can be done before it
hits the digitizer, and after, a lot more. Differences can result in
better recording quality.
Anyways, if you want top-notch, then there's two:
Pioneer - low end with the 220S model or thereabouts at $200 price
range do better than the $100-200 models (see www.videohelp.com ->
forums -> threads comparing 220s vs. iLo models and others with image
capture samples to compare). Or, if you simply use the FINE mode, then
their dual-layer recorders will give you excellent quality through the
use of a high encoding bitrate (vs. SP/EP/LP).
Panasonic for LP mode. They've added multi-path encoders to these
models, which means it can test out several encoding methods on each
frame at the same time, then pick the pathway that produces the best
image for that particularly time. As a result, it can record 500 lines
of resolution in LP mode vs. 250 lines like most recorders, and image
quality is improved across the board.
These two brands generally do very well, if not tops, in most
Japanese computer and AV magazine reviews, and are the ones to look at
first if you want a high-quality recorder w/o searching and testing
individual decks one-by-one. |
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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Thanks for insight. I am new to this. Just bought a Sony digital
camcorder (H42), and now I guess I have tp buy a DVD recorder to burn
my home videos. So for me, the signal is already digital when hitting
my recorder. I guess there's still a lot of processing steps with my
situation which makes difference in recording quality?
Another question: if my main purpose of having a DVD recorder is to use
with my camcorder, should I get a stand alone DVD recorder, or get a
DVD burner that uses with a computer? |
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kaboom
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:25:58 +0100, "Moo" <fake_address@.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Personally I haven't found one DVD Recorder that can match a good vhs
recorder. My Panasonic £100 VHS has far better quality in Extended Play mode
than any DVD Recorder I have seen even when they are recording in "High
Quality",
admittedly I have only tested three dvd recorders.
I challenge anyone to say their dvd (tv) recordings are better than those
recorded on any recent Panasonic vcr.
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**My dvd tv recordings are better than what I record with my 1997
Panasonic VCR (a fantastic VCR) and FAR FAR better than a new cheapo
JVC VCR.
However, this is only valid for what I record on XP and SP (Panasonic
e85). The 4-hr option stinks compared to the 6-hr option of both VCRs.
I've read the the new Pannys have a much improved LP.
Also, this is only valid for what the e85 records off of my analog
cable. Whenever I hook the digital box directly to the e85 (to record
digital channel tiers), the copies are pretty cruddy. They have this
weird cheeseclothey/pixelated look esp noticeable on flesh and such.
I've used the only two connection options available and those are
regular RCA cables and co-ax. Anybody know why this is?
The plus side is that the Panasonic VCR records a gorgeous picture off
of the digital box.
kaboomie |
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