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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 am Post subject:
24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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Under which circumnstances can one particular 24-bit card model be
regarded as better or worse, sonically speaking (that is, other than
extra hardware features) ?
I've read that even a pcmcia card such as Digigram's can pass
unnoticed in sound comparison with bigger units, and that there isn't
sound benefit in using a 96k sampling rate over 48 or even 44.1. How
accurate are such statements, and how and when can they be proven
wrong in a practical world ?
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Mike Rivers
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 am Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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In article <94e1470a.0411231507.dad7c41@posting.google.com> visitor@zaz.com.br writes:
| Quote: | Under which circumnstances can one particular 24-bit card model be
regarded as better or worse, sonically speaking (that is, other than
extra hardware features) ?
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When the recording and monitoring chain are accurate enough to hear a
difference, and when the program material is good enough and
interesting enough to care.
| Quote: | I've read that even a pcmcia card such as Digigram's can pass
unnoticed in sound comparison with bigger units
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Just because it's physically small doesn't mean it's a small
performer. The Digigram VX Pocket is a pretty good quality card.
| Quote: | and that there isn't
sound benefit in using a 96k sampling rate over 48 or even 44.1.
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This is debatable. In some circumstances, it sounds better.
| Quote: | How
accurate are such statements,
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Totally accurate.
| Quote: | and how and when can they be proven wrong in a practical world ?
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Any time you can hear a difference, in a practical world. The ear is
extermely sensitive, as is the mind.
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Geoff Wood
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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"Visitor" <visitor@zaz.com.br> wrote in message
news:94e1470a.0411231507.dad7c41@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Under which circumnstances can one particular 24-bit card model be
regarded as better or worse, sonically speaking (that is, other than
extra hardware features) ?
I've read that even a pcmcia card such as Digigram's can pass
unnoticed in sound comparison with bigger units, and that there isn't
sound benefit in using a 96k sampling rate over 48 or even 44.1. How
accurate are such statements, and how and when can they be proven
wrong in a practical world ?
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I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
geoff |
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Carey Carlan
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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"Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in news:jMZod.7324$3U4.208034
@news02.tsnz.net:
| Quote: | I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
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It's my understanding that the best bitters can be found in an English pub. |
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Geoff Wood
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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"Carey Carlan" <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AB5E142C129gulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.189.191...
| Quote: | "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in news:jMZod.7324$3U4.208034
@news02.tsnz.net:
I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
It's my understanding that the best bitters can be found in an English
pub.
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Naa, they run too warm and have high noise.
geoff |
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agent86
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:23 am Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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Geoff Wood wrote:
| Quote: | "Carey Carlan" <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AB5E142C129gulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.189.191...
"Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in news:jMZod.7324$3U4.208034
@news02.tsnz.net:
I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
It's my understanding that the best bitters can be found in an English
pub.
Naa, they run too warm and have high noise.
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Yeah, but "warm" is the Holy Grail we're all after, right? If I can get
warm, I'll Dolby the noise. |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:07 am Post subject:
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Geoff Wood wrote:
| Quote: | "Carey Carlan" <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AB5E142C129gulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.189.191...
It's my understanding that the best bitters can be found in an
English pub.
Naa, they run too warm and have high noise.
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It's not warm! It's hand pulled, cellar temperature, cask conditioned ale.
Mmmmmmmm... |
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:07 am Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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"Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote :
| Quote: | I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
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OK, so which 24-bit card is a "bad" one, that would really make a
noticeable difference against "better" ones? Not including the PC game
cards. |
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Geoff Wood
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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<visitor2@zaz.com.br> wrote in message
news:f2a3834.0411241929.3f6596c8@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote :
I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24 bitter.
But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for years, why stress
about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
OK, so which 24-bit card is a "bad" one, that would really make a
noticeable difference against "better" ones? Not including the PC game
cards.
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I was thinking along the lines of game cards marketed as quality audio
cards. You know the ones !
geoff |
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Arny Krueger
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:16 am Post subject:
Re: 24-bit audio card models: can one hear a difference ? |
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<visitor2@zaz.com.br> wrote in message
news:f2a3834.0411241929.3f6596c8@posting.google.com
| Quote: | "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote :
I'm sure the are good 16 bitters than sound better than a bad 24
bitter. But as there hasn't been a 16 bit A-D manufactured for
years, why stress about it ? Just get a good soundcard.
OK, so which 24-bit card is a "bad" one, that would really make a
noticeable difference against "better" ones? Not including the PC game
cards.
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It's getting harder and harder to find bad sound cards unless you look at
legacy products.
If you want to listen to differences among audio cards given this a spin:
http://www.pcabx.com/product/soundcard/index.htm
The Soundblaster samples are pretty easy to distinguish.
However, I should point out that they were from an obsolete version of the
card. The current product sounds appreciable better. |
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