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M Wilson
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:
DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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Hi,
I'm looking to buy a DVD Recorder and have a few questions before I buy. I
need a DVD recorder with HDD and by looking at manufacturer's websites I am
currently looking at the following two models: Pioneer DVR-530H-S and Sony
RDR-HX510S.
My favourite is the Pioneer DVD-530H-S because it has a 160gb HDD and also a
lot of features such as "Guide+" and chase play. However, the sony model
supports both types of DVD disk (- and +) whereas the Pioneer only
supports -. I will be using the hard drive for most basic recording and RW
disks for burning things I want to keep for longer.
I'm unsure about the difference and don't want to make a mistake and get the
one that won't allow me to record easily or that will be defeated by the
other type right after I buy!
So my questions are:
1. With the - format, is it still easy to record "VCR style" - just put it
in and press record? Or do you have to erase the DVD-RW disk EVERY time??
When I record to the disk do you have t owait for the diskto be "closed"
afterwards?
2. Are there any advantages to the DVD+R/+RW format that I would be missing
out on?
3. Do you recommend any other current models at around the same price?
Thank you very much for any help!
Matt
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BR549
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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"M Wilson" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:43198138$0$17464$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
| Quote: | Hi,
I'm looking to buy a DVD Recorder and have a few questions before I buy. I
need a DVD recorder with HDD and by looking at manufacturer's websites I
am
currently looking at the following two models: Pioneer DVR-530H-S and Sony
RDR-HX510S.
My favourite is the Pioneer DVD-530H-S because it has a 160gb HDD and also
a
lot of features such as "Guide+" and chase play. However, the sony model
supports both types of DVD disk (- and +) whereas the Pioneer only
supports -. I will be using the hard drive for most basic recording and RW
disks for burning things I want to keep for longer.
I'm unsure about the difference and don't want to make a mistake and get
the
one that won't allow me to record easily or that will be defeated by the
other type right after I buy!
So my questions are:
1. With the - format, is it still easy to record "VCR style" - just put it
in and press record? Or do you have to erase the DVD-RW disk EVERY time??
When I record to the disk do you have t owait for the diskto be "closed"
afterwards?
2. Are there any advantages to the DVD+R/+RW format that I would be
missing
out on?
3. Do you recommend any other current models at around the same price?
Thank you very much for any help!
Matt
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It doesn't matter whether you use - or + as long as the players you may be
using it on will recognize that format, there are no advantages of using one
over the other. I would not use RW DVD's except maybe to test with. For
starters they are much more expensive and with quality media available for
under $.40 US why bother. |
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Bob
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:58:13 +0100, "M Wilson" <a@a.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Pioneer DVR-530H-S and Sony RDR-HX510S.
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Sony does not support its products. It rebrands models from other
manufacturers and then abandons them. The actual manufacturer won't
support them either. So you are stuck with a piece of junk if it
breaks. I do not know about Pioneer's support policy.
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Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv |
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Bob
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:39:34 GMT, "BR549" <nospam@wowspam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I would not use RW DVD's except maybe to test with. For
starters they are much more expensive and with quality media available for
under $.40 US why bother.
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I am using RW DVDs and have had no problems at all. Granted that WORMs
are cheap, they are also inflexible. For example, let's say you record
a show and want to watch it on another DVD machine. You must close the
session (Finalize) which means you cannot put anything else on that
disc. With RW you can "unfinalize" and continue to use that disc.
You get over 1,000 erasures, which is more than anyone needs. I got 5
discs for $10 at WalMart so after 5 uses I am no longer paying
anything compared to 40 cents a disc for WORMs.
--
Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv |
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GMAN
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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In article <qIhSe.6859$xl6.4041@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, "BR549" <nospam@wowspam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "M Wilson" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:43198138$0$17464$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
Hi,
I'm looking to buy a DVD Recorder and have a few questions before I buy. I
need a DVD recorder with HDD and by looking at manufacturer's websites I
am
currently looking at the following two models: Pioneer DVR-530H-S and Sony
RDR-HX510S.
My favourite is the Pioneer DVD-530H-S because it has a 160gb HDD and also
a
lot of features such as "Guide+" and chase play. However, the sony model
supports both types of DVD disk (- and +) whereas the Pioneer only
supports -. I will be using the hard drive for most basic recording and RW
disks for burning things I want to keep for longer.
I'm unsure about the difference and don't want to make a mistake and get
the
one that won't allow me to record easily or that will be defeated by the
other type right after I buy!
So my questions are:
1. With the - format, is it still easy to record "VCR style" - just put it
in and press record? Or do you have to erase the DVD-RW disk EVERY time??
When I record to the disk do you have t owait for the diskto be "closed"
afterwards?
2. Are there any advantages to the DVD+R/+RW format that I would be
missing
out on?
3. Do you recommend any other current models at around the same price?
Thank you very much for any help!
Matt
It doesn't matter whether you use - or + as long as the players you may be
using it on will recognize that format, there are no advantages of using one
over the other. I would not use RW DVD's except maybe to test with. For
starters they are much more expensive and with quality media available for
under $.40 US why bother.
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Many of us use a few DVD-RW's to record off of our standalones and then take
the disk over to the PC to master using programs like TMPG DVD author to make
basic menu's and to cut out commercials for the keeper disks. |
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David Chien
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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| Quote: | My favourite is the Pioneer DVD-530H-S because it has a 160gb HDD and also a
lot of features such as "Guide+" and chase play. However, the sony model
supports both types of DVD disk (- and +) whereas the Pioneer only
supports -. I will be using the hard drive for most basic recording and RW
disks for burning things I want to keep for longer.
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1. No real difference between -/+R or RW when making recordings to
these discs for playback on other machines, PCs and players. They are
designed to be 'identical' for most intents and purposes.
2. If you have an older player, then most of them will be more
compatible with the older, more estabilished -R/RW format.
3. You can check the compatibility of your player at
www.videohelp.com -> DVD player.
4. With either -/+RW, you will have to quick erase the disc (a few
minutes at most) when reusing it again. You do not need to do a full
disc erase of all sectors.
5. - or + format, it's as easy as insert disc, press record button to
make a recording. No real difference R or RW either.
6. Very few editing features in +r/rw, but since you have the HDD
model, there's really no difference at all since you'll be editing the
video off the HDD first, then burning it (much faster and nicer than
trying to edit on-disc).
7. Only other model? Panasonic's latest Giga recorder models with
improved LP record mode that has 500 lines of resolution (vs. other
players, and older models, at 250 lines of resolution in LP mode). This
difference is only significant IF you want to record LP mode discs with
higher image quality than other recorders. Aboslutely no use if you're
recording in XP or SP modes.
8. Besides that? The upcoming dual-layer Pioneer recorders already
out in Japan and Asia. These double the amount of video you can record
to a disc.
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Aside from all of the above, if you're archiving, record to solid
brands of discs -- most of the ones made in Japan will give you
top-notch quality (look on label, Mitsubishi/Verbatim, Maxell, TDK,
Sony, etc.). If you have access to a Plextor 716A, you can also use the
Plextools program included to scan the discs you burn to ensure that it
has low PI/PO errors on the disc, and is a solid burn. (which I do;
then again, using Maxell made in Japan -R discs pretty much guarentees a
solid burn. Why? Pioneer makes the A03 through A10 line of DVD burners
for the PC, and these are the same drives going into the Pioneer TV top
DVD burners. It's already been shown that the Maxell -R Made In Japan
discs (see dv.com magazine and emedia magazine reports as well as
others) on their older, slower burners (which are the ones going into
these machines) produce discs that are the most compatible across the
tested line of DVD players. Thus, use the right discs, and you really
don't have to worry or test PI/PO error rates at all for archiving videos.) |
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Bob
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:18 am Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:33:39 -0700, David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu>
wrote:
| Quote: | The upcoming dual-layer Pioneer recorders already
out in Japan and Asia. These double the amount of video you can record
to a disc.
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But will they record to +/- RW DL? No one can afford to use WORM discs
in DL. |
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David Chien
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:
Re: DVD Recorders and DVD-RW questions |
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| Quote: | But will they record to +/- RW DL? No one can afford to use WORM discs
in DL.
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DL means -/+R DL for the Pioneer recorder decks. Not WORM. Not RAM.
Unknown at this time if it does work with RW DL discs, since they're
not out yet. However, this will not be a significant issue for most
users since they can simply record to the HDD first, edit, and burn the
final copy to a -R DL disc at the end. The addition of the DL standard
was to allow for high-quality archiving of videos, not continued
re-recording of videos to erasable RW media. |
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Bob
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:24:44 -0700, David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu>
wrote:
| Quote: | But will they record to +/- RW DL? No one can afford to use WORM discs
in DL.
DL means -/+R DL for the Pioneer recorder decks. Not WORM. Not RAM.
Unknown at this time if it does work with RW DL discs, since they're
not out yet. However, this will not be a significant issue for most
users since they can simply record to the HDD first, edit, and burn the
final copy to a -R DL disc at the end. The addition of the DL standard
was to allow for high-quality archiving of videos, not continued
re-recording of videos to erasable RW media.
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Do you understand what "WORM" means? |
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