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Ray Thomas
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
cheap Rycote windsock substitute ? |
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I have an outdoor gig coming up involving a brass quintet, which is a repeat
of one I recorded last year around the same time. That was marred by
windnoise which was not reduced by the supplied foam windsock (didn't
surprise me, I wasn't expecting great attenuation from it..) This year I'd
like to be ready for the wind factor...but don't want to spring for the
(over priced) original. Has anyone fabricated a home brew version of a
Rycote they wouldn't mind sharing details or links to ...preferably using
readily obtainable materials ? The mic in question is a Sennheiser ME80
short shotgun electret element.
Any help here would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ray
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Eric Toline
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject:
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Renting a Rycote or Lightwave zepp or Softie is a better choice.
Eric |
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Mike Rivers
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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In article <41a30f72_2@news.chariot.net.au> rthomas@chariot.net.au writes:
| Quote: | I have an outdoor gig coming up involving a brass quintet, which is a repeat
of one I recorded last year around the same time. That was marred by
windnoise
...but don't want to spring for the
(over priced) original.
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It's only overpriced if you can find a cheaper one, and you can't.
This is another one of the many very specialized items in our business
that everybody buys (or rents) because it works and there isn't enough
demand for a second source that's cheaper. The people who need it
don't want to take a chance with something that's unproven.
| Quote: | Has anyone fabricated a home brew version of a
Rycote they wouldn't mind sharing details
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First, shoot a raccoon.
You can almost certainly find one at a rental house. Since this is
something you only need once a year, it's not worth trying to make
something that might not work. The only microphone protection device
for which I've ever seen a DIY project is a pop screen. If you're good
at modelmaking, I supposed you could make a frame of metal wire struts
that looks like a blimp and cover it over with a couple of layers of
pantyhose. It might work. Or it might not.
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Scott Dorsey
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:
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Eric Toline <Audioetc@webtv.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Renting a Rycote or Lightwave zepp or Softie is a better choice.
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IF you can use the baby ball gag, I have to say it is the neatest thing
ever. It's as effective as the full zepp, for a lot less money. But it
won't work with a lot of interference tube mikes because it is just too
small. On a hypercard, it's fine.
There was some discussion in r.a.m.p.s. a couple years ago about some guys
making their own zeppelins with fake fur and steel wire. Their design
actually looked pretty good although I haven't tried it.
--scott
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Allen Corneau
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:
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On 11/23/04 8:47 AM, in article cnvihh$jj7$1@panix2.panix.com, "Scott
Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | There was some discussion in r.a.m.p.s. a couple years ago about some guys
making their own zeppelins with fake fur and steel wire.
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(Just a suggestion for the DIY method) Go to Home Depot in the
electrical/wiring department. Look for the plastic cage thing you put around
a light bulb to protect it, like on a job site.
Wrap a couple of layers of pantyhose over it and (somehow) affix it over the
mic. (Duct tape, anyone?)
Something like this:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1613502096&c
citem=
Good luck!
Allen
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Essential Sound Mastering
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WillStG
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:05 am Post subject:
Re: cheap Rycote windsock substitute ? |
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<< "Ray Thomas" rthomas@chariot.net.au >>
<< I have an outdoor gig coming up involving a brass quintet, which is a repeat
of one I recorded last year around the same time. That was marred by
windnoise which was not reduced by the supplied foam windsock (didn't
surprise me, I wasn't expecting great attenuation from it..) This year I'd
like to be ready for the wind factor...but don't want to spring for the
(over priced) original. Has anyone fabricated a home brew version of a
Rycote they wouldn't mind sharing details or links to ...preferably using
readily obtainable materials ? The mic in question is a Sennheiser ME80
short shotgun electret element.
Any help here would be appreciated.> >
Ray besides the good advice you've got so far (well, Mike wanting you to
shoot a raccoon excepted), one thing to be aware of is that generally the
narrower your mic pattern is the greater the proximity effect, the narrower the
pattern the more problem you will have with windnoise.
If the background noise at your venue is low enough, and if you can place
your mics fairly close to the players you might be able to use a couple of
spaced omni mics, which naturally have much less problems with wind noise and
could possibly sound better. Then foam pops could well be enough protection,
and can sound pretty nice without killing you when the wind blows. I think a
lot of this kind of thing has been done with EV 635a omnis or with RE50's (also
omnis), and if have no Pro Rycote Blimp with a fur windscreen but you have
access to these old standby mics a lot of schools/AV depts have, it's worth a
shot. At least as a backup.
* No animals were harmed in the making of this post. *
Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Audioist / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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Geoff Wood
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
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"Allen Corneau" <acorneau@flash.net> wrote in message news:BDC8BBEE.EC79%>
| Quote: | Wrap a couple of layers of pantyhose over it and (somehow) affix it over
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mic. (Duct tape, anyone?)
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Ah, the old pantyhose and duct tape fantasyxxxxx, ooops , method.
geoff |
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Geoff Wood
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
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"Ray Thomas" <rthomas@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
news:41a30f72_2@news.chariot.net.au...
| Quote: | I have an outdoor gig coming up involving a brass quintet, which is a
repeat
of one I recorded last year around the same time. That was marred by
windnoise which was not reduced by the supplied foam windsock (didn't
surprise me, I wasn't expecting great attenuation from it..) This year I'd
like to be ready for the wind factor...but don't want to spring for the
(over priced) original. Has anyone fabricated a home brew version of a
Rycote they wouldn't mind sharing details or links to ...preferably using
readily obtainable materials ?
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1 - Get one small shaggy dog.
2 - Reach your arm up it's asre until you can grab it's tongue.
3 - Grab tongue and riiiiip.
4 - Sponge out the remaining messy stuff
5 - Insert mic.
geoff |
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Eric Toline
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject:
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Re: cheap Rycote windsock substitute ?
Group: rec.audio.pro Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2004, 11:56pm (EST+18) From:
geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam (Geoff Wood)
1 - Get one small shaggy dog.
2 - Reach your arm up it's asre until you can grab it's tongue.
3 - Grab tongue and riiiiip.
4 - Sponge out the remaining messy stuff
5 - Insert mic.
geoff<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Yuck gross. Cats work much better ;-)))
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Ray Thomas
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject:
Re: cheap Rycote windsock substitute ? |
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Thanks guys for the wealth of info there..I think I'll go beg at my local
broadcast station, who might be able to loan me a pair for the day. Geoff,
were you thinking pomeranian, or silky terrier or maybe small poodle ..which
would give best attenuation (and least frenzied resistance in the
"construction phase") ?
Ray
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"Ray Thomas" <rthomas@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
news:41a30f72_2@news.chariot.net.au...
I have an outdoor gig coming up involving a brass quintet, which is a
repeat
of one I recorded last year around the same time. That was marred by
windnoise which was not reduced by the supplied foam windsock (didn't
surprise me, I wasn't expecting great attenuation from it..) This year
I'd
like to be ready for the wind factor...but don't want to spring for the
(over priced) original. Has anyone fabricated a home brew version of a
Rycote they wouldn't mind sharing details or links to ...preferably
using
readily obtainable materials ?
1 - Get one small shaggy dog.
2 - Reach your arm up it's asre until you can grab it's tongue.
3 - Grab tongue and riiiiip.
4 - Sponge out the remaining messy stuff
5 - Insert mic.
geoff
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ScotFraser
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:
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<< > ...but don't want to spring for the
| Quote: | (over priced) original. >><BR><BR
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Overpriced is the $849 DPA zeppelin.
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Mike Rivers
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:
Re: cheap Rycote windsock substitute ? |
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In article <41a49364_2@news.chariot.net.au> rthomas@chariot.net.au writes:
| Quote: | were you thinking pomeranian, or silky terrier or maybe small poodle ..which
would give best attenuation
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I don't know pomeranians, but I have one neighbor with a small terrier
and another with a poodle. They (the dogs) both make way too much damn
noise. I wouldn't recommend them when the desire is to cut down on
noise, wind or othewise.
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I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo |
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Geoff Wood
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject:
Re: cheap Rycote windsock substitute ? |
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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
| Quote: | I don't know pomeranians, but I have one neighbor with a small terrier
and another with a poodle. They (the dogs) both make way too much damn
noise. I wouldn't recommend them when the desire is to cut down on
noise, wind or othewise.
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To avoid wind noise, don't use a flatulent dog.
geoff |
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Mikey
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:05 am Post subject:
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"Ray Thomas" <rthomas@chariot.net.au> wrote in message news:<41a49364_2@news.chariot.net.au>...
| Quote: | Thanks guys for the wealth of info there..I think I'll go beg at my local
broadcast station, who might be able to loan me a pair for the day. Geoff,
were you thinking pomeranian, or silky terrier or maybe small poodle ..which
would give best attenuation (and least frenzied resistance in the
"construction phase") ?
Ray
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1 - Get one small shaggy dog.
2 - Reach your arm up it's asre until you can grab it's tongue.
3 - Grab tongue and riiiiip.
4 - Sponge out the remaining messy stuff
5 - Insert mic.
geoff
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Which reminds me of the old joke:
What do you call an man standing on the side of the road with his arm
halfway up a horse's ass?
An amish mechanic...
We'll be here all week, folks...!
Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
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Kurt Albershardt
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject:
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Mike Rivers wrote:
| Quote: | In article <41a49364_2@news.chariot.net.au> rthomas@chariot.net.au writes:
were you thinking pomeranian, or silky terrier or maybe small poodle ..which
would give best attenuation
I don't know pomeranians, but I have one neighbor with a small terrier
and another with a poodle. They (the dogs) both make way too much damn
noise. I wouldn't recommend them when the desire is to cut down on
noise, wind or othewise.
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I refer to those as drop kick dogs. |
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