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DanR
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:
Tivo and UPS |
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How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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MegaZone
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
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I have UPSes for my home entertainment gear. It is mainly to ride out
brownouts and short blackouts.
UPSes, and surge protectors, will offer *some* protection against
spikes. But they really can't much to spare units from a lightning
hit or that kind of thing. Electricity will take the path of least
resistance, and the ground loop through the plug is often not it. A
common-mode surge, where the power comes in on all the wires, is
anough to overwhelm msot home UPSes and surge protectors. Fortunately
they're not that common.
You can get a whole-home unit installed at the load center for the
home - either just a surge protector or a combo with a UPS - and the
overall cost will be less than a bunch of separate units for
everything. I just purchased a home and I want to have a surge/UPS
whole home unit installed, I just need to take care of some more
immediate needs - like rebuilding the crappy back steps before someone
takes a header. ;-)
-MZ
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Howard
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:16 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote in
news:v%tLe.10678$O07.2156@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a
power failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a
UPS. I don't know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical
computer but I'm not sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly
going away. It is a pain to wait for the unit to power up and the buffer
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It's not so much the sudden going away as the sudden return. Think about
how you take a shower. You turn on the water, adjust the temperature, THEN
turn on the showerhead. Why? Because if you turned on the showerhead
first then stood under it, you would get blasted with cold water at first.
| Quote: | is lost along with the easter egg tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100
TivoDVR???
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When you get right down to it, a UPS is basically an insurance policy.
While some use it as a convenience (they don't want to wait for the startup
process or lose the modifications), others use it as UPSes are designed to
do...protect electronics. If you decide that "$50 to protect a $100" box
is too expensive of a policy, that's your decision. If others decide that,
regardless of the cost of the box, the time spent purchasing a new one,
going through guided setup, losing all thumbs data, redoing all season
passes and wishlists, not to mention doing without the device in the
meantime justifies a UPS, then that's theirs.
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Mike Hunt
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:40 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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On 2005-08-13, DanR <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I use a UPS on my TiVos but not so much to protect them but to ensure they
keep recording if the power goes out in the middle of my favorite show.
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SINNER
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:00 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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* DanR wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo?
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I Do.
| Quote: | I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I have it for Show loss, not data loss :)
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A: We are Vaxen. |
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Jim
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:06 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:55:39 GMT, DanR wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I use a UPS on my Toshiba Tivo ... Paid $39 for an APC 350 UPS ... Great
for the surge protection and to cover the momentary power blips that I get
during storms. Tivo hardware is similar to a PC ... having a UPS is good. |
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Zardaz
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:10 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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"Howard" <stile99@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B1AFB60630stile@129.250.170.82...
| Quote: | "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote in
news:v%tLe.10678$O07.2156@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:
How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a
power failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a
UPS. I don't know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical
computer but I'm not sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly
going away. It is a pain to wait for the unit to power up and the buffer
It's not so much the sudden going away as the sudden return.
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But the sudden returns after a few minutes are virtually harmless. It's the
sudden power spikes and sudden losses and returns that occur with minnimal
time inbetween that cause problems.
| Quote: | Think about
how you take a shower. You turn on the water, adjust the temperature,
THEN
turn on the showerhead. Why? Because if you turned on the showerhead
first then stood under it, you would get blasted with cold water at first.
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So what part of the Tivo needs adjusting/preparing before it gets plugged
in?
That's a REALLY REALLY BAD analogy. |
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Chris Adams
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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Once upon a time, DanR <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> said:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I have used an UPS with my TiVos for years; not so much to protect the
hardware (I used a surge protector previously) but to protect the
recordings. I don't want to lose what is on my TiVo because I want to
watch it. Also, I don't want my TiVo to stop recording for several
minutes just because the power blinked for 2 seconds (which it does
regularly around here during the thunderstorm season, from about March
to November).
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Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. |
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GTD
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:55:39 GMT, "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
That $50 could potentially save the $100 tivo many many times though. |
Also, what else do you have plugged in near the tivo that could also
benefit from the protection? I'm speaking more in terms of hardware
damage as opposed to data loss. |
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Wes Newell
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:55:39 +0000, DanR wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I've got a 650VA ups with the Tivo, RCA DRS7000N, VCR, and TV plugged into
it, so it's protecting about $600 worth of stuff, but I really only have
it so I don't lose recordings and I don't rhave to reset clocks,
schedules, etc.
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SINNER
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:50 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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* MegaZone wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
| Quote: | You can get a whole-home unit installed at the load center for the
home - either just a surge protector or a combo with a UPS - and the
overall cost will be less than a bunch of separate units for
everything. I just purchased a home and I want to have a surge/UPS
whole home unit installed, I just need to take care of some more
immediate needs - like rebuilding the crappy back steps before someone
takes a header. ;-)
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I did this when I moved in after a house was stuck with lightning down
the street. I paid about $2700 for Lightning rod installation and a full
home supression unit. I still keep all the gear pluggend into a UPS.
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Charlene Charette
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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DanR wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS. I don't
know if there is much danger of data lose like a typical computer but I'm not
sure what damage may occur with the power suddenly going away. It is a pain to
wait for the unit to power up and the buffer is lost along with the easter egg
tweaks. $50 UPS to protect a $100 TivoDVR???
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I have my TIVO and computer on a UPS. We get frequent power blinks that
last less than a minute. Prevents gaps in recordings while it's
rebooting. I got an inexpensive 5-minute UPS to ride those out. If we
lose power for longer than that, oh well.
--Charlene
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Frank J. Perricone
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:55:39 GMT, "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo?
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I do. If you look around and wait for a bargain, you can get one more than
capable of handling a TiVo (or even a TiVo and a cable/satellite receiver)
for $20. It's well worth it.
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Doug Warner
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:
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Mike Hunt <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I use a UPS on my TiVos but not so much to protect them but to ensure they
keep recording if the power goes out in the middle of my favorite show.
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Same here, but I also put my Denon receiver on it because it otherwise
turns itself on after each of the frequent short power failures I have
here.
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Scott Peterson
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Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:
Re: Tivo and UPS |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you folks use a UPS device with your Tivo? I just had a power
failure because of a storm and so I'm wondering if I should get a UPS.
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I have Tivo working through a cable box so both of those are on a UPS.
After all, they both have to work to record anything and the cable box
does not always power up after an outage. Since I've got a fairly
expensive flat screen TV, I have it plugged in as well. I don't
leave the TV on when I'm not home and if I'm home, the first thing I
would do in a power failure is turn it off so it doesn't waste power.
With one of the smaller APC units, the Tivo and cable box will last
about 30-45 minutes before the batteries drain. |
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