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Dave80537
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Anyone know if/when TiVo will support Wireless G? I'd like to add the TiVo
to my wireless network, but have been holding off awaiting support for G. I
am assuming that G will allow faster transfer of data, pictures, etc. from
the PC to the TiVo...am I correct?

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Homer L. Hazel
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Dave,

Not until they fix the USB 1.1 port you talk to the Tivo with. That's very
slow.

But, your wireless G will probably be faster than my wireless B. 8>)

Larry Hazel

"Dave80537" <dave80537@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Anyone know if/when TiVo will support Wireless G? I'd like to add the
TiVo to my wireless network, but have been holding off awaiting support
for G. I am assuming that G will allow faster transfer of data, pictures,
etc. from the PC to the TiVo...am I correct?
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Lenroc
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:56:57 -0700, Dave80537 wrote:

Quote:
Anyone know if/when TiVo will support Wireless G?

I'd guess never, at least not until TiVo Series 3, or whatever the next
major revision is...

Quote:
I'd like to add the TiVo to my wireless network, but have been holding
off awaiting support for G.

Go for 'b' -- or wired. Your 'g' network can accept 'b' clients.

Quote:
I am assuming that G will allow faster transfer of data, pictures, etc.
from the PC to the TiVo...am I correct?

The USB ports on the TiVo are limited to USB 1.1 by software. USB 1.1
is not fast enough to support the extra speed of 'g' compared to 'b', so
there's no benefit to supporting 'g' unless the USB ports get faster.

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Lenroc
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Randy S.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Quote:
I am assuming that G will allow faster transfer of data, pictures, etc.
from the PC to the TiVo...am I correct?


The USB ports on the TiVo are limited to USB 1.1 by software. USB 1.1
is not fast enough to support the extra speed of 'g' compared to 'b', so
there's no benefit to supporting 'g' unless the USB ports get faster.


Of course if you're buying equipment now, go ahead and buy the G even if
you can't utilize it, since the cost difference is incidental and it
is backwards compatible with b. Also make sure the equipment supports
802.11i as well (more commonly known as WPA2), all the new equipment
should support it (anything WiFi certified anyway).

There's no real drawback to 802.11g right now if you're buying new stuff
even if you're limited by USB speeds.

Randy S.
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

In article <cnufgj$1cbe$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu>, Randy S.
<rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote:

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Also make sure the equipment supports
802.11i as well (more commonly known as WPA2), all the new equipment
should support it (anything WiFi certified anyway).

802.11i? Never heard of it.

Any examples of modems/routers/gateways that support it?

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pulled down the stars to our will."
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Lenroc
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:10:32 -0600, Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:

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802.11i? Never heard of it.

Any examples of modems/routers/gateways that support it?

Whatever you do, _DON'T_ google "802.11i router".

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Rich
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

"Dave80537" <dave80537@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:CJqdnXQxldMiOz_cRVn-uw@comcast.com...
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Anyone know if/when TiVo will support Wireless G? I'd like to add the
TiVo to my wireless network, but have been holding off awaiting support
for G. I am assuming that G will allow faster transfer of data, pictures,
etc. from the PC to the TiVo...am I correct?

I run a Linksys "G" wireless router and Netgear "B"wireless USB device. The
response time is MORE than fast enough!
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

In article <pan.2004.11.23.06.56.26.782000@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com>,
Lenroc <lenroc@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:10:32 -0600, Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:

802.11i? Never heard of it.

Any examples of modems/routers/gateways that support it?

Whatever you do, _DON'T_ google "802.11i router".

Why not?

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pulled down the stars to our will."
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Rob
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

"Keeper of the Purple Twilight" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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In article <pan.2004.11.23.06.56.26.782000@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com>,
Lenroc <lenroc@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:10:32 -0600, Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:

802.11i? Never heard of it.

Any examples of modems/routers/gateways that support it?

Whatever you do, _DON'T_ google "802.11i router".

Why not?

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Randy S.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Quote:
802.11i? Never heard of it.

Any examples of modems/routers/gateways that support it?

Whatever you do, _DON'T_ google "802.11i router".


Why not?

As noted, there is lots of information on it out there. The Wi-fi
alliance has information here:

http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/protected_access.asp

Note that all new "Wi-Fi" certified equipment *must* be 802.11i compliant.

This page allows you to search for compliant products:

http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/certified_products.asp?TID=2

I noted it because 802.11i is fairly new and not well known yet. Now
it's slighly better known!

Randy S.
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MegaZone
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

"Dave80537" <dave80537@comcast.net> shaped the electrons to say:
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Anyone know if/when TiVo will support Wireless G? I'd like to add the TiVo

Rumor is before the end of the year, both USB2.0 drivers and 11g
support are supposed to be part of the TiVoToGo release.

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Jeff Rife
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

MegaZone (newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
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Rumor is before the end of the year, both USB2.0 drivers and 11g
support are supposed to be part of the TiVoToGo release.

Of course, even without 802.11g support, USB2.0 makes it easy to do the
job: wired ethernet adapter plugged into a 802.11g access point's 100Mb
port, and then other wireless devices as needed.

I still can't figure out why people who are whining about lack of support
for any particular wireless standard don't just do this for every device
that has wired Ethernet capbilities. Unless your devices are all very
evenly spread around your house, this is quite economical to do.

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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

In article <MPG.1c0da619f2850171989940@news.nabs.net>, Jeff Rife
<wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

Quote:

Of course, even without 802.11g support, USB2.0 makes it easy to do the
job: wired ethernet adapter plugged into a 802.11g access point's 100Mb
port, and then other wireless devices as needed.

I still can't figure out why people who are whining about lack of support
for any particular wireless standard don't just do this for every device
that has wired Ethernet capbilities. Unless your devices are all very
evenly spread around your house, this is quite economical to do.

Too much clutter, IMHO.

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"No urban night is like the night [in NYC]...here is our poetry, for we have
pulled down the stars to our will."
- Ezra Pound, poet and critic, 9/18/1912, reflecting on New York City
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Jeff Rife
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Keeper of the Purple Twilight (no@spam.invalid) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Quote:
I still can't figure out why people who are whining about lack of support
for any particular wireless standard don't just do this for every device
that has wired Ethernet capbilities. Unless your devices are all very
evenly spread around your house, this is quite economical to do.

Too much clutter, IMHO.

Only if your devices are evenly spread around your house. I've got 3 or 4
things in my "entertainment rack" that can be networked. One wired
hub/switch and one wireless connection (either on a device that supports
more than one, or a WAP), and you're in business.

Then, too, every single TiVo has an input for TV that has to come from
somewhere. If you got a bunch of TiVos that are in far-flung corners of
your house, you already have a wire that runs to *all* of them. It's
not that hard to run another one.

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Scott Peterson
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Wireless "G" networking-When? Reply with quote

Lenroc <lenroc@NOSPAMFORYOU.hotmail.com> wrote:

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Go for 'b' -- or wired. Your 'g' network can accept 'b' clients.

The problem that if you run mixed b & g your entire wireless network
may be held back to speed of the b devices.

Scott Peterson

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him a bench has wet paint on it, and he'll
have to touch to be sure.

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