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Marv Soloff
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Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:31 pm Post subject:
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For those trying to make decent VHS/BETA transfers to DVD, try this combo:
Plextor ConvertX M402U with latest driver (2016) upgrade,
Plextor GoCap (set for MPEG-2 encoding) for capture.
TMPEnc DVD Author to produce the video and audio streams and
to write the DVD.
Aside from a slight out of audio sync problem on one of the old tapes
caused by stretch, this combo has worked surprisingly well.
Your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Marv
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Ken Maltby
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:30 am Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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"Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | For those trying to make decent VHS/BETA transfers to DVD, try this combo:
Plextor ConvertX M402U with latest driver (2016) upgrade,
Plextor GoCap (set for MPEG-2 encoding) for capture.
TMPEnc DVD Author to produce the video and audio streams and
to write the DVD.
Aside from a slight out of audio sync problem on one of the old tapes
caused by stretch, this combo has worked surprisingly well.
Your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Marv
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You might try feeding the captured MPEGs to VideoReDo,
www.VideoReDo.com as it can fix the audio sync issue as
well as provide frame accurate editing, and it's fast.
What in the way of parameter settings will the "GoCap"
program allow you? Can you set it to Half D1, for instance?
I have a great MPEG capture card now but the idea of
hardware MPEG4 is really appealing.
Luck;
Ken |
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Wiley
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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The ConvertX is a sweet piece of hardware...for sure. I was a little
spooked by the price...initially, but I'm glad I invested. I've been
working on moving a large collection of Disney VHS over to DVD and the
process has been pretty uneventful. And you have been working on
BETA? Geez, I'm really surprised that you've got a BETA deck that is
still in working order...let alone some tapes that haven't turned to
crispy critters.
I need to do some authoring before I burn my disks. I've been working
with Nero 6 lately. The OEM version of WinDVD Capture 2 worked for
the captures, but the authoring tools are pretty weak. One thing for
sure, when the ConvertX eventually dies of old age, I'm going to yard
that blue LED out of the thing and use it to light my driveway. You
could go BLIND if you happen to look at that puppy straight on.
Wiley
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Marv Soloff
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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All I can say about "Plextor GoCap (now at V2.0)" is that it does the
job for me, supports a zilliom combos, and is FREE. The default is
MPEG-4.
Extraordinarily cost effective.
Regards,
Marv
Ken Maltby wrote:
| Quote: | "Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:_H0id.830618$Gx4.724639@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
For those trying to make decent VHS/BETA transfers to DVD, try this combo:
Plextor ConvertX M402U with latest driver (2016) upgrade,
Plextor GoCap (set for MPEG-2 encoding) for capture.
TMPEnc DVD Author to produce the video and audio streams and
to write the DVD.
Aside from a slight out of audio sync problem on one of the old tapes
caused by stretch, this combo has worked surprisingly well.
Your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Marv
You might try feeding the captured MPEGs to VideoReDo,
www.VideoReDo.com as it can fix the audio sync issue as
well as provide frame accurate editing, and it's fast.
What in the way of parameter settings will the "GoCap"
program allow you? Can you set it to Half D1, for instance?
I have a great MPEG capture card now but the idea of
hardware MPEG4 is really appealing.
Luck;
Ken
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Marv Soloff
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Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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I have about 400 BETA tapes, most commercial, some unique. All told I
have some 11 BETA decks in the attic (just in case they get scarce).
Capture is (as said before) via GoCap, then to TMPEnc Author for editing.
Last three DVD burns were done with the MPEG-2 streams from TMPEnc
Author fed to DVD Shrink/Nero for the actual burn. Very nice.
Regards,
Marv
Wiley wrote:
| Quote: | The ConvertX is a sweet piece of hardware...for sure. I was a little
spooked by the price...initially, but I'm glad I invested. I've been
working on moving a large collection of Disney VHS over to DVD and the
process has been pretty uneventful. And you have been working on
BETA? Geez, I'm really surprised that you've got a BETA deck that is
still in working order...let alone some tapes that haven't turned to
crispy critters.
I need to do some authoring before I burn my disks. I've been working
with Nero 6 lately. The OEM version of WinDVD Capture 2 worked for
the captures, but the authoring tools are pretty weak. One thing for
sure, when the ConvertX eventually dies of old age, I'm going to yard
that blue LED out of the thing and use it to light my driveway. You
could go BLIND if you happen to look at that puppy straight on.
Wiley
Oregon, USA |
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luminos
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:44 am Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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Does this device ignore macrovision, as does the ADS Instant DVD 2 for
example?
"Wiley" <0eyf-0opr@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The ConvertX is a sweet piece of hardware...for sure. I was a little
spooked by the price...initially, but I'm glad I invested. I've been
working on moving a large collection of Disney VHS over to DVD and the
process has been pretty uneventful. And you have been working on
BETA? Geez, I'm really surprised that you've got a BETA deck that is
still in working order...let alone some tapes that haven't turned to
crispy critters.
I need to do some authoring before I burn my disks. I've been working
with Nero 6 lately. The OEM version of WinDVD Capture 2 worked for
the captures, but the authoring tools are pretty weak. One thing for
sure, when the ConvertX eventually dies of old age, I'm going to yard
that blue LED out of the thing and use it to light my driveway. You
could go BLIND if you happen to look at that puppy straight on.
Wiley
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Marv Soloff
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:48 am Post subject:
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What is Macrovision? (Laughter) But seriously, I bought a "Digital Video
Stabilizer" at a garage sale for $5.00 couple of years ago. Video runs
from the BETA/VHS to the Stabilizer to the ConvertX. Pix (and audio)
stable as a rock and just gorgeous. To answer your question, I don't
know I've never seen Macrovision on a BETA or VHS tape I've processed.
And, I am totally unfamiliar with the ADS machine.
Regards,
Marv
luminos wrote:
| Quote: | Does this device ignore macrovision, as does the ADS Instant DVD 2 for
example?
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| Quote: | "Wiley" <0eyf-0opr@xemaps.com> wrote in message
news:1ad3bceb.0411032337.15a63853@posting.google.com...
The ConvertX is a sweet piece of hardware...for sure. I was a little
spooked by the price...initially, but I'm glad I invested. I've been
working on moving a large collection of Disney VHS over to DVD and the
process has been pretty uneventful. And you have been working on
BETA? Geez, I'm really surprised that you've got a BETA deck that is
still in working order...let alone some tapes that haven't turned to
crispy critters.
I need to do some authoring before I burn my disks. I've been working
with Nero 6 lately. The OEM version of WinDVD Capture 2 worked for
the captures, but the authoring tools are pretty weak. One thing for
sure, when the ConvertX eventually dies of old age, I'm going to yard
that blue LED out of the thing and use it to light my driveway. You
could go BLIND if you happen to look at that puppy straight on.
Wiley
Oregon, USA
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Wiley
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:29 am Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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Yes, the ConvertX knows nothing about Macrovision. When I think about
it, that makes sense because I believe that Macrovision's strength is
in preventing direct tape to tape duplication. It screws up the sync
on the writing side.
The ConvertX simply takes composite or SVideo input and audio...then
spits out data that can be saved to a file on whatever storage device
you choose to use. I think you can even go direct to DVD.
It really doesn't get much easier, and the fact that all the magic is
done in hardware makes the process very stable and repeatable. One
cool aspect of Plextor's product... The firmware updates don't
require that you directly access the hardware. A configuration file
is maintained on your PC and is read into the ConvertX each time you
plug in the USB. That's what changes, never the bios...directly. I
don't know about you, but the concept of burning anything to a chip on
the hardware of a device...gives me the willies. Though I've never
had a problem with other hardware devices, the warnings and
disclaimers that usually precede a firmware upgrade suggest that there
may be some risk involved each and every time you set the process in
motion. Plextor got that one right in my book. |
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Marv Soloff
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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FYI - The ConvertX has at its heart a Philips SAA7115 decoder -
and yes,it knows all about Macrovision. A full set of data sheets can be
gotten from the Philips website.
Regards,
Marv
"Philips Semiconductors has released the SAA7115 9bit video decoder,
with high-performance comb filter, enhanced Macrovision detection and
advanced vertical blanking interval (VBI) data slicing capability.
As part of Philips Semiconductors' Nexperia digital video platform, the
SAA7115 provides the front-end digitisation and processing of analogue
video inputs on next-generation set-top boxes, digital televisions,
video projectors, personal video and DVD recorders.
Designed with service providers in mind, the highly integrated SAA7115
is the latest chip from Philips to comply with Macrovision's Copy
Protection Detect Specification Revision 1.00.
The SAA7115 sets a new standard for manufacturers and reference design
partners as a cost-effective solution allowing consumers to realise a
high-quality digital video experience.
Philips Semiconductors' SAA7115 is the only video decoder to offer dual
9bit low-noise, 2x-oversampled analogue-to-digital convertors.
With a dramatic 10 to 15dB signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) improvement
versus leading 8bit competitors, the SAA7115 provides the industry's
highest calibre video decoding in its class."
(SNIP)
Wiley wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, the ConvertX knows nothing about Macrovision. When I think about
it, that makes sense because I believe that Macrovision's strength is
in preventing direct tape to tape duplication. It screws up the sync
on the writing side.
The ConvertX simply takes composite or SVideo input and audio...then
spits out data that can be saved to a file on whatever storage device
you choose to use. I think you can even go direct to DVD.
It really doesn't get much easier, and the fact that all the magic is
done in hardware makes the process very stable and repeatable. One
cool aspect of Plextor's product... The firmware updates don't
require that you directly access the hardware. A configuration file
is maintained on your PC and is read into the ConvertX each time you
plug in the USB. That's what changes, never the bios...directly. I
don't know about you, but the concept of burning anything to a chip on
the hardware of a device...gives me the willies. Though I've never
had a problem with other hardware devices, the warnings and
disclaimers that usually precede a firmware upgrade suggest that there
may be some risk involved each and every time you set the process in
motion. Plextor got that one right in my book. |
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Ken Maltby
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject:
Re: BETA to DVD |
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"Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:0BHid.843395$Gx4.687321@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Quote: | FYI - The ConvertX has at its heart a Philips SAA7115 decoder -
and yes,it knows all about Macrovision. A full set of data sheets can be
gotten from the Philips website.
Regards,
Marv
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Gotta Love those Philips SAA7000 series A/D chips. I have
a SAA7114H in front of a Kfir-II (Broadcom BCM7040) on
my Adaptec AVC-2000. The Kfir-II is the encoder chip used
in the TiVo Series 2.
Don't know if they are using the same approach with the 7115
as with the 7114H but if so, you might want to search your registry
for entries that can control that chip. As an example:
"If you open up regedit and look for the key "SAA7114". There is a
subaddress called "Reg09". This either adjusts resolution enhancement
or low-pass filter (blurring on good sources, noise reduction on poorer
vcr sources).
All notation is in hex:
The register is composed of two sets of four bits. The one you're interested
in is the least significant four bits (the right one, shown as 0 through F).
The
"no filtering" setting has this set to "0000", so your registry will have
the
"Reg09" set to "X0" for no filtering, where "X" is the most significant four
bits
that we're not going to change. The values of filtering for the different
values of
these four bits, or least significant hex digit, are:
1 = res. enhance 8.0 dB (most enhancement for best source)
2 = res. enhance 6.8 dB
3 = res. enhance 5.1 dB
4 = res. enhance 4.1 dB
5 = res. enhance 3.0 dB
6 = res. enhance 2.3 dB
7 = res. enhance 1.6 dB (least enhancement)
0 = no enhance or low pass
8 = low pass 2 dB (least amount of low-pass filtering)
9 = low pass 3 dB
A = low pass 3 dB at 3.3 MHz and 4 dB at 4.1 MHz
B = low pass 3 dB at 2.6 MHz and 8 dB at 4.1 MHz
C = low pass 3 dB at 2.4 MHz and 14 dB at 4.1 MHz
D = low pass 3 dB at 2.2 MHz and notch at 3.4 MHz
E = low pass 3 dB at 1.9 MHz and notch at 3.0 MHz
F = low pass 3 dB at 1.7 MHz and notch at 2.5 MHz (most
low-pass filtering for really crappy source)
So, for example, if you wanted to enhance by 3dB you would
change the Reg 09 setting so the second digit was a "5", like "A5"
or "45".
(Picked this up from another poster named "Kevin".)
There may be similar with the Plextor's driver installed.
Luck;
Ken |
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Marv Soloff
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject:
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It appears that, with some minor variations, the SAA7115 is similar to
the SAA7134, 7114, and a whole host of other A/D chips. I downloaded the
entire spec sheet (can't find it today) for study and I really did not
get that far into it. Philips also offers a "development" kit for this
series of chips, worth getting if you are going to dig in to its many
capabilities.
Regards,
Marv
Ken Maltby wrote:
| Quote: | "Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:0BHid.843395$Gx4.687321@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
FYI - The ConvertX has at its heart a Philips SAA7115 decoder -
and yes,it knows all about Macrovision. A full set of data sheets can be
gotten from the Philips website.
Regards,
Marv
Gotta Love those Philips SAA7000 series A/D chips. I have
a SAA7114H in front of a Kfir-II (Broadcom BCM7040) on
my Adaptec AVC-2000. The Kfir-II is the encoder chip used
in the TiVo Series 2.
Don't know if they are using the same approach with the 7115
as with the 7114H but if so, you might want to search your registry
for entries that can control that chip. As an example:
"If you open up regedit and look for the key "SAA7114". There is a
subaddress called "Reg09". This either adjusts resolution enhancement
or low-pass filter (blurring on good sources, noise reduction on poorer
vcr sources).
All notation is in hex:
The register is composed of two sets of four bits. The one you're interested
in is the least significant four bits (the right one, shown as 0 through F).
The
"no filtering" setting has this set to "0000", so your registry will have
the
"Reg09" set to "X0" for no filtering, where "X" is the most significant four
bits
that we're not going to change. The values of filtering for the different
values of
these four bits, or least significant hex digit, are:
1 = res. enhance 8.0 dB (most enhancement for best source)
2 = res. enhance 6.8 dB
3 = res. enhance 5.1 dB
4 = res. enhance 4.1 dB
5 = res. enhance 3.0 dB
6 = res. enhance 2.3 dB
7 = res. enhance 1.6 dB (least enhancement)
0 = no enhance or low pass
8 = low pass 2 dB (least amount of low-pass filtering)
9 = low pass 3 dB
A = low pass 3 dB at 3.3 MHz and 4 dB at 4.1 MHz
B = low pass 3 dB at 2.6 MHz and 8 dB at 4.1 MHz
C = low pass 3 dB at 2.4 MHz and 14 dB at 4.1 MHz
D = low pass 3 dB at 2.2 MHz and notch at 3.4 MHz
E = low pass 3 dB at 1.9 MHz and notch at 3.0 MHz
F = low pass 3 dB at 1.7 MHz and notch at 2.5 MHz (most
low-pass filtering for really crappy source)
So, for example, if you wanted to enhance by 3dB you would
change the Reg 09 setting so the second digit was a "5", like "A5"
or "45".
(Picked this up from another poster named "Kevin".)
There may be similar with the Plextor's driver installed.
Luck;
Ken
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Ken Maltby
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Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:36 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Ken Maltby wrote:
"Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:0BHid.843395$Gx4.687321@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
FYI - The ConvertX has at its heart a Philips SAA7115 decoder -
and yes,it knows all about Macrovision. A full set of data sheets can be
gotten from the Philips website.
Regards,
Marv
Gotta Love those Philips SAA7000 series A/D chips. I have
a SAA7114H in front of a Kfir-II (Broadcom BCM7040) on
my Adaptec AVC-2000. The Kfir-II is the encoder chip used
in the TiVo Series 2.
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"Marv Soloff" <msoloff@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:enKid.67027$OD2.25378@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Quote: | It appears that, with some minor variations, the SAA7115 is similar to the
SAA7134, 7114, and a whole host of other A/D chips. I downloaded the
entire spec sheet (can't find it today) for study and I really did not get
that far into it. Philips also offers a "development" kit for this series
of chips, worth getting if you are going to dig in to its many
capabilities.
Regards,
Marv
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The Broadcom site had some good data on their BCM7040
(Kfir-II) MPEG Encoder Chip. I haven't found out what
Hardware Encoder chip is in the M402U, or were to find any
data on it.
Luck;
Ken |
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