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Joseph Oberlander
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

George M. Middius wrote:

Quote:

Recently you opined that Arnii Krooshit might participate in Usenet as a
source of amusement. Herewith some contradictory evidence that I, for
one, find rather compelling.


I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.


All in fun, you think? And the frequent accusations of scheming and
plotting -- that's all said with a big wink, right?

Who knows? Maybe he has some odd desire for amusement from
baiting people and watching them go into a frenzy. Most
of the people here seem to react pretty well to his posts,
btw.

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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
George M. Middius wrote:


Recently you opined that Arnii Krooshit might participate in Usenet
as a source of amusement. Herewith some contradictory evidence that
I, for one, find rather compelling.


I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.


All in fun, you think? And the frequent accusations of scheming and
plotting -- that's all said with a big wink, right?

Who knows? Maybe he has some odd desire for amusement from
baiting people and watching them go into a frenzy.

There's nothing odd about this at all. Lots of people go to cock fights and
dog fights. Middius and his bunch are just my figurative dogs and chickens.

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Most of the people here seem to react pretty well to his posts, btw.

Other than Middius and his bozos here on RAO, there are few like them in all
of the audio groups in Usenet.
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Review (3): High-Power Audio Amplifier Construction Manu Reply with quote

"Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.

A curious statement from someone who knowingly
kept some on his hard drive for three years.

Except it wasn't knowingly.

That is a bald faced lie.

Delusions of omniscience noted.

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You were the one who claimed
it was kiddie porn when you supposedly 'got it',

Legal point, Art. There never was any kiddie porn in this case, therefore I
never stored kiddie porn on my hard drive.

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and you were the one who knowingly stored it on your hard drive.
on your hard drive.

Wrong again Art, I thought I deleted it.

Hey Art, its alot more fun to catch you in more lies than less lies. Could
you make up some more lies about this matter?
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George M. Middius
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

Joseph Oberlander said:

Quote:
Recently you opined that Arnii Krooshit might participate in Usenet as a
source of amusement. Herewith some contradictory evidence that I, for
one, find rather compelling.

I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.

All in fun, you think? And the frequent accusations of scheming and
plotting -- that's all said with a big wink, right?

Who knows? Maybe he has some odd desire for amusement from
baiting people and watching them go into a frenzy. Most
of the people here seem to react pretty well to his posts,
btw.

I pity you.
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dave weil
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Review (3): High-Power Audio Amplifier Construction Manu Reply with quote

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:32:09 -0500, "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com>
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"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Note that by definition, 'accuracy' is not a subjective attribute.
Reproduction is accurate if it is identical (or close to) the
original, regardless of how one perceives it to be.

Note that this concept flies over the pointy little heads of many of our
resident radical subjectivists.

Note that you completely disregard the imprecise and sometimes
arbitrary way that we process audio information (or at least are able
to measure *why* someone might prefer one presentation over another).

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Note that they wouldn't be the least bit happy if their paychecks were made
out in accordance with their definition of accuracy.

Strawman alert!
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Paul Dormer
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

"Arny Krueger" emitted :

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There's nothing odd about this at all. Lots of people go to cock fights and
dog fights.

Nope, nothing odd there...


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Clyde Slick
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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George M. Middius wrote:


Recently you opined that Arnii Krooshit might participate in Usenet
as a source of amusement. Herewith some contradictory evidence that
I, for one, find rather compelling.


I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.


All in fun, you think? And the frequent accusations of scheming and
plotting -- that's all said with a big wink, right?

Who knows? Maybe he has some odd desire for amusement from
baiting people and watching them go into a frenzy.

There's nothing odd about this at all. Lots of people go to cock fights
and dog fights. Middius and his bunch are just my figurative dogs and
chickens.


Hah! Sick obsession with illegal activities such as dog fights, cock
fights and kiddie porn noted.
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George M. Middius
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Note to J Oberlander Reply with quote

Clyde Slick said:

Quote:
Recently you opined that Arnii Krooshit might participate in Usenet
as a source of amusement. Herewith some contradictory evidence that
I, for one, find rather compelling.

I hate pedophilia. My enemies sensing this, have promoted this lie.

All in fun, you think? And the frequent accusations of scheming and
plotting -- that's all said with a big wink, right?

Who knows? Maybe he has some odd desire for amusement from
baiting people and watching them go into a frenzy.

There's nothing odd about this at all. Lots of people go to cock fights
and dog fights. Middius and his bunch are just my figurative dogs and
chickens.

Hah! Sick obsession with illegal activities such as dog fights, cock
fights and kiddie porn noted.

Those were just Kroophemisms. He's really talking about shit fights.
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Ron
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Review (3): High-Power Audio Amplifier Construction Manu Reply with quote

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:29:17 -0600, dave weil <dweil2@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:57:08 -0500, Ron <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote:

Note that by definition, 'accuracy' is not a subjective attribute.
Reproduction is accurate if it is identical (or close to) the
original, regardless of how one precives it to be.

I think that you are missing the point. I think that "accuracy" is
indeed very subjective.

No, I wasn't missing a point, I was making one. I provided the
definition for 'accuracy'. Do read again. There is nothing in it
about listening or hearing.

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After all, we don't listen to ocilliscope traces, we listen to music
and we each have our own hearing curves and
listening biases, based on sex and cultural training.

.... which is subjective and has nothing to do with accuracy.

Do try to understand that 'accuracy' pertains to comparison of the
original to the reproduced *physical sound* and does not apply to
what specific listeners are hearing or, indeed, to whether listeners
are present at all.

-- Ron


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Therefore, how "accurate" we find reproduction is based less on an
"objective" standard and more on the "subjective" one. You and I can
listen to the same orchestra live, and then immediately listen to a
recording on the same system and still disagree about how "accurate"
the reproduction is. The difference might even be wider if we are from
different parts of the globe. I noticed this even between, say British
people and German people (in general of course).

This isn't to say that objective standards can't help, but to solely
rely on them is folly.
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