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Dave
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Layer D Reply with quote

Hi!
Can video image of 2 layer (Movie) DVD be saved onto Single Layer DVD
by using any compression utility ?
Any advise and pointers or links appreciated.
TIA

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
Quote:
Hi!
Can video image of 2 layer (Movie) DVD be saved onto Single Layer DVD
by using any compression utility ?
Any advise and pointers or links appreciated.
TIA

DVD Shrink
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Dan G
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

I second the DVDShrink option, but take the time to read the tutorials about
how to use it.

Some movies are too big to be shrunk properly, and need to be split between
2 discs, or burned to a double layer disc. Shrink can split a movie very
nicely.



"Adrian" <anca@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Dave wrote:
Hi!
Can video image of 2 layer (Movie) DVD be saved onto Single Layer DVD
by using any compression utility ?
Any advise and pointers or links appreciated.
TIA

DVD Shrink

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Happy Dude
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

"Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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I second the DVDShrink option, but take the time to read the tutorials about
how to use it.

Some movies are too big to be shrunk properly, and need to be split between
2 discs, or burned to a double layer disc. Shrink can split a movie very
nicely.

Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

"Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise, there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper use of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.
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GuessWho
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

">> Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
Quote:
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise, there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper use
of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.

I agree......

You have to decide what extras to omit in order to fit most films onto one
4.7GB disc.
I usually get rid of multiple audio tracks, subtitles and most extras.
This usually results in a shrink of around 80% which as mentioned above is
what you need or else the quality really suffers on a large screen
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Happy Dude
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

I usually watch them on a 27" RCA, but they also get played on a 52" 16x9
HDTV. I know there is going to be quality loss...but i haven't seen
anything that obvious. I just always do the detailed analysis or whatever
its called, and leave out the audio tracks i don't need.


"Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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"Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Quote:



Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise, there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper use of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.
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Breezereef
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

In addition to getting rid of surplus sound and languages, I also shrink the
menus as much as possible, making more room for the movie.

Breezereef
"GuessWho" <gordon@ferguson9497nospam.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:

">> Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking
to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise,
there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper
use
of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.

I agree......
You have to decide what extras to omit in order to fit most films onto one
4.7GB disc.
I usually get rid of multiple audio tracks, subtitles and most extras.
This usually results in a shrink of around 80% which as mentioned above is
what you need or else the quality really suffers on a large screen

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Dave
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:02:50 GMT, "Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Quote:
I usually watch them on a 27" RCA, but they also get played on a 52" 16x9
HDTV. I know there is going to be quality loss...but i haven't seen
anything that obvious. I just always do the detailed analysis or whatever
its called, and leave out the audio tracks i don't need.


"Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote in message
news:NuudnSMggdv9wXzfRVn-tA@comcast.com...

"Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise, there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper use of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.


I did a "Copy Disk" in Nero and Nero output 2 images .....

"movie.nrg" (4194 Mb) and "movie.nrg.001" (3283 Mb) .....
So, what do I do with these 2 images now to have them
fit onto a single sided DVD?
I'm new at DVD burning and any help is most welcome.
thnx! ..... :-)
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smh
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

.. --------------------------------------
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"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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Dave wrote:
Quote:

Can video image of 2 layer (Movie) DVD be saved onto Single Layer DVD
by using any compression utility ?
Any advise and pointers or links appreciated.

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- How to copy DVD - 9 To DVD±R using Nero Recode 2
- doom9 Nero Recode 2 guide
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:02:50 GMT, "Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com
wrote:


I usually watch them on a 27" RCA, but they also get played on a 52" 16x9
HDTV. I know there is going to be quality loss...but i haven't seen
anything that obvious. I just always do the detailed analysis or whatever
its called, and leave out the audio tracks i don't need.


"Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote in message
news:NuudnSMggdv9wXzfRVn-tA@comcast.com...

"Happy Dude" <unknown@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:BgbEe.166722$on1.8243@clgrps13...

Tutorials on how to use it???? Its too easy.. I've never had a
problem not making a DVD fit onto one single layer disc



Then you've been lucky, or you're watching on a small screen. Shrinking to
less than 80% is clearly visible on a large hi-res screen. Likewise, there
are many tricks and tweaks around to maximize results, and the proper use of
the quality settings is critical for top-quality results. All of which
requires some learning.



I did a "Copy Disk" in Nero and Nero output 2 images .....
"movie.nrg" (4194 Mb) and "movie.nrg.001" (3283 Mb) .....
So, what do I do with these 2 images now to have them
fit onto a single sided DVD?
I'm new at DVD burning and any help is most welcome.
thnx! ..... :-)

My news server took some time off, so I missed the original thread.

1. Apart from the video loss, the copy may be impractical due to audio.
I have one commercial DVD 9 which has only a PCM stream. Even at maximum
compression, the result is too big for DVD 5. It can be copied on the
computer by extracting the MPEG2, splitting out the audio, compressing
to AC3, remuxing audio and video and burning the result. I found it
easier and more sensible to re-record from a code-free, region-free
player onto the standalone.

2. When you tell Nero to copy the disc, it copies the disc. What you
want is recompression; for that, I use DVDShrink with good results. For
a single-disc result, the losses with any approach may be negligible,
serious or prohibitive depending on your viewing setup, the length and
quality of the original and your purpose.

Mike
--
mrichter@cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

Dave <dave_peterson@hotpop.com> wrote:

Quote:
I did a "Copy Disk" in Nero and Nero output 2 images .....
"movie.nrg" (4194 Mb) and "movie.nrg.001" (3283 Mb) .....
So, what do I do with these 2 images now to have them
fit onto a single sided DVD?
I'm new at DVD burning and any help is most welcome.
thnx! ..... :-)

You DO NOT want to burn to ISO files to DVD and expect it to work. What
you need is combining 2 real working DVD. You have several choices (buring
NRG is none of them) so pick your choice

1. The MAIN thing is to combine/re-author VOBs from 2 "VIDEO_TS" folder onto
single. This you can use just about any DVD Author to do the job. They may
work little different from each other, but they all work the same in
general.

2. Your choice of having 2 "VIDEO_TS" folders. Pick your choice.

- Extract/Copy them to hard drive

- If you don't want to extract then, MOUNT one to VirtualCD/DVD, and other
read directly from DVD (or hard drive, or mount to another VirtualCD).

3. If the combined is larger than 4.4GB then you will need tool like DVD
Shrink or Nero Recode to compress it to fit onto single DVD.

The process above requires lot of GIGs (2 original DVDs + Combined + new
Compressed) and it may take around 45-60 mins for the whole show. I have
been doing this for several years so I know it works.

4. If for some reason you can't import/read information from VIDEO_TS as
whole DVD (missing or corrupted file), then you will have to manually "ADD
file" just like you add MPG file. Then author like you normal do.

If you want to learn more then point your browser to wed site like
www.videohelp.com and learn as much as you can.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin Shit) splattered:
Quote:

snip mumbo jumbo on DVD

Are you now expert on DVD, Mikey?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) barfed (2/17/05):
Quote:

Which one should I buy when my drive can read and write both?
Compatibility, durability, speed in writing, which one is better
for my drive?

in my experience (which is limited),
+R is more likely to work in Europe.

Impressed with the tidbit about the "European" stuff.

But whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) barfed (2/12/05):
Quote:

Which one should I buy when my drive can read and write both?
Compatibility, durability, speed in writing, which one is better
for my drive?

+ is slightly more quirky

Is it now "quirky"?
Whatever happened to "anomalous" or "trickier", Slimeball?

=============================================================
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Quote:

DVD-ROM on + media can be anomalous

Is it now "anomalous"? Whatever happened to "trickier"?

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Quote:

DVD-ROM is a bit trickier on the + media.

Sounds like you have extensive experience in DVD burning.

What do you mean by "trickier"?

Did burning to the + media require you to use a needle,
a magnifying glass and a cigarette lighter?
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:41:57 -0500, dont@spam.me (Joe) wrote:

Quote:
Dave <dave_peterson@hotpop.com> wrote:

I did a "Copy Disk" in Nero and Nero output 2 images .....
"movie.nrg" (4194 Mb) and "movie.nrg.001" (3283 Mb) .....
So, what do I do with these 2 images now to have them
fit onto a single sided DVD?
I'm new at DVD burning and any help is most welcome.
thnx! ..... :-)

You DO NOT want to burn to ISO files to DVD and expect it to work. What
you need is combining 2 real working DVD. You have several choices (buring
NRG is none of them) so pick your choice

1. The MAIN thing is to combine/re-author VOBs from 2 "VIDEO_TS" folder onto
single. This you can use just about any DVD Author to do the job. They may
work little different from each other, but they all work the same in
general.

2. Your choice of having 2 "VIDEO_TS" folders. Pick your choice.

- Extract/Copy them to hard drive

- If you don't want to extract then, MOUNT one to VirtualCD/DVD, and other
read directly from DVD (or hard drive, or mount to another VirtualCD).

3. If the combined is larger than 4.4GB then you will need tool like DVD
Shrink or Nero Recode to compress it to fit onto single DVD.

The process above requires lot of GIGs (2 original DVDs + Combined + new
Compressed) and it may take around 45-60 mins for the whole show. I have
been doing this for several years so I know it works.

4. If for some reason you can't import/read information from VIDEO_TS as
whole DVD (missing or corrupted file), then you will have to manually "ADD
file" just like you add MPG file. Then author like you normal do.

If you want to learn more then point your browser to wed site like
www.videohelp.com and learn as much as you can.

So, the 2 "NRG" files 'Nero' has output are of no
use in this instance.... and by "Extract/Copy"
you mean 'Drag+Drop'? I end up with 2 huge files
with their original extension intact and copied
into a folder on the HDD.
Now what? If I get you correctly .....
Only after this, get 'DVD Shrink' or 'Nero Recode'
to 'join' them together and then shrink the single
file so it can fit onto a DVD5?
Have I missed out anything ?
Thanks ..... :-).
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Can movie image onf 2 layer DVD be saved onto Single Lay Reply with quote

Dave <dave_peterson@hotpop.com> wrote:

Quote:
If you want to learn more then point your browser to wed site like
www.videohelp.com and learn as much as you can.

So, the 2 "NRG" files 'Nero' has output are of no
use in this instance.... and by "Extract/Copy"
you mean 'Drag+Drop'? I end up with 2 huge files
with their original extension intact and copied
into a folder on the HDD.
Now what? If I get you correctly .....
Only after this, get 'DVD Shrink' or 'Nero Recode'
to 'join' them together and then shrink the single
file so it can fit onto a DVD5?


1. Extracting means to expand/copy/move datas from single ISO/compress file
to hard drive or folder

2. In general ISO means the imaged of CD/DVD (with good/bad spot, or
mirrored of the CD/DVD) *but* no longer true with DVD ISO creates from
hard drive (still waiting to nail some genies about this one here) which
no more than combining all DATAs into Single_File.

.NRG is one of many ISO formats/extensions creates by Nero, and you can
extract to hard drive using program like WinRAR, Alcohol, ISOBuster and
many many more.

3. After extracted, Add them together using DVD Author like (TMPGenc DVD
Author) or any DVD author allows you to read/combine more than one DVD.
Then author (now it's called Re-Authoring) like you do with MPG

You get to do this before you can DVD Shrink. Cuz it can shrink *but*
can't combine.

4. After re-authored, you will have the JUMBO SIZE then you use either DVD
Shrink or Nero Recode to shrink/compress it to fit onto 4.4GB

Quote:
Have I missed out anything ?

You miss the "Re-Authoring" part that you have to do before Shrinking. I
read there may be a specific program designed to combine more than one DVD
onto single_DVD. But I have never see the program to know if it does the
magically way or similar to what I describe and been doing for years
(above). But no matter what that program may do, it just can't have more
than One_Menu (each DVD has its own Menu or information for the DVD)

> Thanks ..... :-).
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