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Frank Rocca
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:
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Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack.
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Mark D. Zacharias
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject:
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No damage so long as the plug isn't forced in further. Of course there's a
danger this will happen by accident.
Mark Z.
"Frank Rocca" <fxrocca@tin.it> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack. |
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Malcolm Stewart
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:16 am Post subject:
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"Frank Rocca" <fxrocca@tin.it> wrote in message
news:f8b98b8e.0411210013.3814ba4d@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack.
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Why not get a stereo-mono adapter and then your mono sound can be recorded
on both channels? Or, are you worried about the 1.5 to 2 volts of
polarising voltage for electret microphones?
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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm |
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Frank Rocca
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject:
Re: sticking cheap monaural microphone into stereo jack |
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Thank you both for your replies. Good point about the stereo-mono
adapter. I was just being lazy. I'm afraid I HAVE forced the plug in
too far on at least a few occasions, while fiddling. Hope that I
somehow avoided damage. If not, is it the sort of thing that's hard to
fix? Thanks. |
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Dimitrios Tzortzakakis
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject:
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Better use two mono microphones and a stereo/dual mono adapter in your
computer, to record directly on the hard disk (.wav file).The recording will
be almost perfect, I have converted succesfully tapes to cds (and dloaded a
trojan horse but that's a different story-60 euros with tax to format and
reinstall everything, including drivers, win 2k and office xp).Back to it,
using the mic input of your computer (or the line in) you can directly burn
cds, and the difficult task of the ADC (analogue to digital conversion) will
be accomplished by your computer.One understands that a computer is much
more powerful than a mini disc recorder.
celeron 2.4 GHz
QDI p4 i 848 p
512 mb ddr
geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x 64 mb ddr pixelview
zoom faxmodem 56 k v92
miro 17" crt (I LOVE it!)
hitachi deskstar 80 gb 7200 rpm 3/2004 construction date (when power out
head parks with current drawn from the platter motor that becomes a
generator-very useful in crete, so no ups)
floppy (yes, floppy!)
lexmark z 605
some speakers
teac burner cd 52x
lg cd rom drive 52x
braintrust case 300 w
tweaked win 2k
office xp
autocad r14
maxball keyboard and mouse
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Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
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| Quote: | Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack. |
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Mark D. Zacharias
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject:
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"Frank Rocca" <fxrocca@tin.it> wrote in message
news:f8b98b8e.0411220253.6bbfcace@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Thank you both for your replies. Good point about the stereo-mono
adapter. I was just being lazy. I'm afraid I HAVE forced the plug in
too far on at least a few occasions, while fiddling. Hope that I
somehow avoided damage. If not, is it the sort of thing that's hard to
fix? Thanks.
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There's a chance the jack is damaged, even the solder connections or solder
eyelets could be compromised. Worse, it might be difficult to even gain
acess for service. If it works, I'd just be careful from now on and not
worry too nuch about it.
Mark Z. |
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jakdedert
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject:
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Frank Rocca wrote:
| Quote: | Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack.
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I'm surprised that you are getting satisfactory recordings. Normally
plugging a tip/sleeve (mono) plug into a tip/ring/sleeve jack will short out
one side of the stereo input. That's not cause for alarm, but.....
jak |
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Dimitrios Tzortzakakis
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:05 am Post subject:
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You are right, when I place a stereo jack together with a mono, I see that
in this case the (say) right input is connected to ground, what normally
would mean silence in one channel.
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Tzortzakakis Dimitriïs
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
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| Quote: | Frank Rocca wrote:
Is there any risk of damage if I use a cheap Radio Shack-type monaural
microphone with a stereo Sony MiniDisc recorder (MZ-B100)? The
recordings are satisfactory but the microphone plug doesn't go all the
way into the jack.
I'm surprised that you are getting satisfactory recordings. Normally
plugging a tip/sleeve (mono) plug into a tip/ring/sleeve jack will short
out
one side of the stereo input. That's not cause for alarm, but.....
jak
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Frank Rocca
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:08 am Post subject:
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But this silence in one channel due to shorting out, it's just a
problem that affects that specific recording, right? The danger is of
mechanical damage, as described by Mark. Do I have that right? |
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jakdedert
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:
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Frank Rocca wrote:
| Quote: | But this silence in one channel due to shorting out, it's just a
problem that affects that specific recording, right? The danger is of
mechanical damage, as described by Mark. Do I have that right?
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Yeah, I don't know, so I'll defer to Mark. I was only referring to the OP's
contention that the recordings sounded fine. I've not ever seen damage from
doing what he described, but.....
jak |
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John Beardmore
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:04 am Post subject:
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In message <f8b98b8e.0411220253.6bbfcace@posting.google.com>, Frank
Rocca <fxrocca@tin.it> writes
| Quote: | Thank you both for your replies. Good point about the stereo-mono
adapter. I was just being lazy. I'm afraid I HAVE forced the plug in
too far on at least a few occasions, while fiddling. Hope that I
somehow avoided damage. If not, is it the sort of thing that's hard to
fix? Thanks.
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Why not just glue a couple of washers onto the plug to restrict how far
it can be inserted ?
J/.
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Mark D. Zacharias
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject:
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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Frank Rocca wrote:
But this silence in one channel due to shorting out, it's just a
problem that affects that specific recording, right? The danger is of
mechanical damage, as described by Mark. Do I have that right?
Yeah, I don't know, so I'll defer to Mark. I was only referring to the
OP's
contention that the recordings sounded fine. I've not ever seen damage
from
doing what he described, but.....
jak
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I just thought it was more likely to get damaged if it was "hanging out"and
the heel of the plug not firmly against the opening of the jack. It could
easily get jammed by a random impact and if not already fully inserted would
"punch through" the rear of the jack. I also believe it would be more likely
to just get broken off. I was unaware that his mono plug only gets one
channel in there - sounds like maybe time to wire on an appropriate plug.
Mark Z. |
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