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LeCorbusier
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject:
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"Justin" <nospamnot@spammernot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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| Quote: | I would suggest you get one with a hard drive. You'll never have to worry
about having a blank dvd installed when you want to record a show.
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.
I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for
$198.
Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that
the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?
When i decided for a Philips DVDR610 in 11/04,lots of cheap recorders,like |
LiteOn(5005?),had horribly primitive TV tuners,not supporting any of these:
-Channel sorting
-Station ID
-VPS
-ShowView
-Direct Recording
Hard to handle 30+ stations under these conditions.
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Large Farva
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:
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"LeCorbusier" <themroc@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Justin" <nospamnot@spammernot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:H2UAe.190576$IO.61249@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
I would suggest you get one with a hard drive. You'll never have to worry
about having a blank dvd installed when you want to record a show.
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZyDAe.1983$oZ.1239@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff
I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.
I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for
$198.
Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that
the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?
When i decided for a Philips DVDR610 in 11/04,lots of cheap recorders,like
LiteOn(5005?),had horribly primitive TV tuners,not supporting any of
these:
-Channel sorting
-Station ID
-VPS
-ShowView
-Direct Recording
Hard to handle 30+ stations under these conditions.
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A TV tuner is something I would never ever useso that's a moot point. I
haven't used a TV tuner in over 15 years! |
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Graham
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject:
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In message <2kTAe.8955$aY6.4810@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote:
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But WHY? Tell me why I should buy it? Does it make recordings that look $100
better than the iLo/Lite-On unit that Walmart sells? It's only $50 less than
that Toshiba...why not go for the Toshiba?
Sorry. I thought the Lite-On was one of the cheapies. (It is over here |
in England)
Cheers!
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Graham
My Website - http://www.thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk |
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nobody
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
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Must be pretty boring stuck on 1 channel and not using a TV tuner to change
it.
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"LeCorbusier" <themroc@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Justin" <nospamnot@spammernot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:H2UAe.190576$IO.61249@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
I would suggest you get one with a hard drive. You'll never have to worry
about having a blank dvd installed when you want to record a show.
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZyDAe.1983$oZ.1239@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff
I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.
I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for
$198.
Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that
the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?
When i decided for a Philips DVDR610 in 11/04,lots of cheap recorders,like
LiteOn(5005?),had horribly primitive TV tuners,not supporting any of
these:
-Channel sorting
-Station ID
-VPS
-ShowView
-Direct Recording
Hard to handle 30+ stations under these conditions.
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A TV tuner is something I would never ever useso that's a moot point. I
haven't used a TV tuner in over 15 years! |
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Large Farva
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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Yes, my TV never leaves channel 3. However there are over 500 channels of
DirectTV and 4 DVD changers with 300 DVD's in each all connected to that
channel 3. Hardly boring.
"nobody" <sirspamalot@spammer.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Must be pretty boring stuck on 1 channel and not using a TV tuner to
change
it.
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Bill Vermillion
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Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
<nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
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The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
Personally any one I'd use would have to have a tuner that does
record the stereo soundtrack, and at least 1 video/audio input.
My Philips has two composite video inputs and two Ext [the way they
label them] which are firewire/i-link.
You have to look carefully and sometimes get a someone to show you
the manuals to be sure of what you are getting.
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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Graham" <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote:
[super mega snip]
Yeah I'm sure it's nice..really. I'd love to have it. But what do I get
for
that extra $150? If I have something I want to do a REALLY nice
transfer
of,
I have a computer with a DVD burner that will run circles around a
standalone, I just want something simple to dump a VHS onto a DVD for
when I
don't need nice menus or editing or the fancy stuff I do with the
computer.
I just want a DVD version of my VHS..so why should I get that $250
recorder
instead of a $100 recorder?
In that case. buy the Lite-On 5006
Cheers!
But WHY? Tell me why I should buy it? Does it make recordings that look
$100
better than the iLo/Lite-On unit that Walmart sells? It's only $50 less
than
that Toshiba...why not go for the Toshiba?
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Large Farva
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Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
| Quote: | In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
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I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only mono...can you link
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Bill Vermillion
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Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Standalone DVD recorder differences... |
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In article <oauCe.4928$oZ.2308@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Large Farva <none@nospam.com> wrote:
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
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It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
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Rotes Sapiens
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Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Standalone DVD recorder differences... |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:34:15 GMT, "Justin" <nospamnot@spammernot.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | I would suggest you get one with a hard drive. You'll never have to worry
about having a blank dvd installed when you want to record a show.
"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZyDAe.1983$oZ.1239@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.
I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for $198.
Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?
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I don't own or use a standalone, so I can only talk about what I've
read. When I was looking at buying a standalone, they had a
reputation for being unreliable.
I ended up buying a computer DVD burner which does +/- R and R/W. I
mostly use it for playing DVDs and making backups. For recording TV I
use a hard disk PVR (no DVD burner).
The standalone units often only do either + or -. They also might not
do R/W. In addition, the manufacturers don't seem to honour the
warranty. They can't record much, a few units will do 8 hours, but at
that stage the picture quality is below acceptable. In addition the
recording has a habit of failing because of disk problems or random
failures.
I've read a few bad things about the CyberHome so I would avoid them.
If you just want a cheapie, I'd go for the LiteOn. They make a lot of
the units with different brand names on them anyway. If the DVD
burner in it dies, there's a good chance you can replace it with an
off-the-shelf DVD burner. Pioneer and Panasonic are usually believed
to be good brands, but you get what you pay for. Look for the
connectors on the back. Make sure they have at least SVideo and RCA
or composite connectors. You never know when you might need to use it
with a different TV or other video gear.
Sig:
I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them.
-- Isaac Asimov |
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Rotes Sapiens
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Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:20:16 -0400, "Z Man" <z1z@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZyDAe.1983$oZ.1239@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.
I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for
$198.
Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that
the $100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?
The feature set could be different. I wanted a machine that also had a VCR,
to eliminate one component, ease connections, and enable me to transfer old
VHS tapes to DVD. Another feature I wanted was media flexibility. My machine
can record to DVD+-R/RW. You might even want DVD-RAM. Lastly, I needed a
Firewire input for my digital camcorder. Some of the less expensive models
don't have Firewire input. I doubt that picture quality is substantially
different among different brands, but the included features can vary
considerably.
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Some units with Firewire will interface with a computer, others will
only interface to a digital camera.
Sig:
I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them.
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Large Farva
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Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject:
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJt0wq.I49@wjv.com...
| Quote: | In article <oauCe.4928$oZ.2308@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Large Farva <none@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
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Alpha
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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJt0wq.I49@wjv.com...
In article <oauCe.4928$oZ.2308@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Large Farva <none@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
It's not iLo, all of them are stereo..they even have firewire inputs.
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One model has a mono tuner... |
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Large Farva
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"Alpha" <logos1@trip.net> wrote in message
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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
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In article <oauCe.4928$oZ.2308@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Large Farva <none@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
It's not iLo, all of them are stereo..they even have firewire inputs.
One model has a mono tuner...
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Who uses a tuner in a DVD recorder? I remember the VCR my Dad bought in 1978
had one...but why would you need one now? |
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whodothere
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Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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In article <dKOCe.690$6f.430@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote:
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJt0wq.I49@wjv.com...
In article <oauCe.4928$oZ.2308@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Large Farva <none@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
It's not iLo, all of them are stereo..they even have firewire inputs.
Both the liteon and ILo are mono only tuners. they WILL however record in |
stereo from external sources such as satellite. |
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DUH
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Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:cYWCe.984$6f.790@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
| Quote: | "Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:
Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built
cheap,unless you`re buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or
whatever is the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were
to open up the 2,the parts would be almost identical.
The only differences as you state are not quite true.
Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only
mono...can you link to the one you're talking about?
It was a post in this NG a few months ago. One of the el-cheapos.
I want to say ILO, but that may be wrong. I was surprised when I
heard about that too.
It's not iLo, all of them are stereo..they even have firewire inputs.
One model has a mono tuner...
Who uses a tuner in a DVD recorder? I remember the VCR my Dad bought in
1978
had one...but why would you need one now?
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