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pak
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
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Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find a
definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC that
will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What format do I
want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
Pak
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
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"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
| Quote: | Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find a
definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC that
will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What format do I
want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
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Any CD Mastering program that burns CD-Audio format does this for you
automatically.
Audio CD's are encoded in a 16-bit PCM format, most closely resembling
WAV files.
Depending on the burning program, whether CD-Audio discs can be burned
from sources of WAV files, mp3 files, or other files, varies.
Popular CD mastering software for the PC includes (for Windows) Nero
Burning ROM, Roxio EZ CD/DVD Creator, MusicMatch Jukebox includes
functionality to burn audio CD's. Of these only MusicMatch Basic is
free. Windows XP has audio CD burning functinality built into modern
versions of Windows Media Player I believe.
On the Mac side, iTunes allows you to burn audio CD's for free from
mp3 sources. Makes me wonder if Windows iTunes includes this
functionality as well (cus iTunes if free, IIRC).
Under Linux... there are several CD mastering packages that are free.
I'm not familiar with them though.
Best Regards,
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
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bmiawmb@toddh.net (Todd H.) writes:
| Quote: | "pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find a
definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC that
will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What format do I
want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
Any CD Mastering program that burns CD-Audio format does this for you
automatically.
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For instance, in one popular program when you go to burn a disk and
create a layout, you poke a radio button to determine whether it'll be
o a CD Audio disk,
o a data disk, or
o an mp3 audio disk.
Each has a different layout/structure format.
To maximize compatibility with various players, generaly, the slower
you burn the CD (e.g. 4x), the more laser power is used by the burner,
and the better things will read on a wider variety of CD audio
players. Some manufacturers' burners have specific features to help
with this (e.g. Plextor VariRec). But in my experience, with name
brand CD-R media, and burning at 4x, I don't have problems with
reading in any CD players no matter how cheap.
Best Regards,
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Richard Steinfeld
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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Todd H. wrote:
| Quote: | bmiawmb@toddh.net (Todd H.) writes:
"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find a
definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC that
will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What format do I
want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
Any CD Mastering program that burns CD-Audio format does this for you
automatically.
For instance, in one popular program when you go to burn a disk and
create a layout, you poke a radio button to determine whether it'll be
o a CD Audio disk,
o a data disk, or
o an mp3 audio disk.
Each has a different layout/structure format.
To maximize compatibility with various players, generaly, the slower
you burn the CD (e.g. 4x), the more laser power is used by the burner,
and the better things will read on a wider variety of CD audio
players. Some manufacturers' burners have specific features to help
with this (e.g. Plextor VariRec). But in my experience, with name
brand CD-R media, and burning at 4x, I don't have problems with
reading in any CD players no matter how cheap.
Best Regards,
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Exact Audio Copy is an excellent free program that'll burn from .wav
files. I think it also will burn from MP3. It comes with profiles for a
number of popular CD burners, and it also can perform tests on your
drives to arrive at the best settings for all those throwaway "brand X"
burners that are out there nowadays. (I'm talking about drives that are
so cheap and so cheaply made that they're considered disposable by their
own manufacturers). This includes products from some of the brands that
were trusted for the highest quality only a few years ago
Exact Audo Copy will do something else for you: it will display the
actual manufacturer of your blank CDs; if you've never examined this
before, you're in for a surprise! Most name brand disks that I've
examined are made by someone else.
Finally, a request: please everyone get out of the habit of putting
apostrophes onto acronyms for plural: like "CD's." The correct usage is
"CDs." The apostrophe is for possessive, as in "LBJ's ranch." Drives me
nuts.
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pak
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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OK, both answers help but... what file extension is the one that will work
will ALL players. when I start burning what will the output be?? MP3,
WMA, CDA???
"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find
a definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC
that will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What
format do I want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
Pak
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:
Re: CD Music Format |
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Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> writes:
| Quote: | Finally, a request: please everyone get out of the habit of putting
apostrophes onto acronyms for plural: like "CD's." The correct usage
is "CDs." The apostrophe is for possessive, as in "LBJ's ranch."
Drives me nuts.
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Fair enough.
But realize that grammatical pedants of usenet outside of
alt.english.usage drive the rest of us nuts. 8-)
Good tip on EAC though!
Best Regards,
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ric
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:18 am Post subject:
Re: CD Music Format |
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pak wrote:
| Quote: | I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find a
definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC that
will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.)
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You visit hookers with CDs and stereos? ["hoe stereo"] <g> |
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Ron Hardin
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:21 am Post subject:
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Todd H. wrote:
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Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> writes:
Finally, a request: please everyone get out of the habit of putting
apostrophes onto acronyms for plural: like "CD's." The correct usage
is "CDs." The apostrophe is for possessive, as in "LBJ's ranch."
Drives me nuts.
Fair enough.
But realize that grammatical pedants of usenet outside of
alt.english.usage drive the rest of us nuts. 8-)
Good tip on EAC though!
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CD's is correct. Acronyms take the apostrophe to prevent you from
trying to pronounce it as a word, serving as a separator.
The Spelling of the Regular Plural
(V) The apostrophe + s is used in some nouns of unusual form, eg
letters : "dot your i's"; numerals : "in the 1890's" (or, increasingly,
1890s); abbreviations : "three PhD's"; (or, increasingly, PhDs).
Quirk, Greenbaum, Leech and Svartvik _A Comprehensive Grammar of
the English Language_.
A prescriptivist has no standing in the matter.
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pak
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:
Re: CD Music Format |
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I appreciate the discussion on the proper use of the apostrophe and grammar,
but no one answered my last question---------what file extension is the one
that will work will ALL players. when I start burning what will the output
be?? MP3, WMA, CDA???
"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:tKSdnecikM93SlDfRVn-og@comcast.com...
| Quote: | OK, both answers help but... what file extension is the one that will
work will ALL players. when I start burning what will the output be??
MP3, WMA, CDA???
"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rNmdnbEaopr8D1DfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
Not sure if this is the right group for this question but.........
I realize this may be an often repeated and tired question but can't find
a definitive answer so here goes. I want to burn music cd's using my PC
that will play on any cd player (car, boom box, hoe stereo etc.) What
format do I want to use and what is the best "free" program to use.
Pak
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John Beardmore
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject:
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In message <1uOdnejxUJD591PfRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, pak <eckerpw@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | I appreciate the discussion on the proper use of the apostrophe and grammar,
but no one answered my last question---------what file extension is the one
that will work will ALL players. when I start burning what will the output
be?? MP3, WMA, CDA???
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When audio data is written to the disk, if I remember correctly it's not
written to file system with file names, so the data written has no file
extension on the CD you produce.
Audio source files from the PC can be in any format as long as the CD
burning software can understand it. If you can use a source audio
format like WAV which has not used lossy compression, you will however
get better results.
Cheers, J/.
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:
Re: CD Music Format |
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"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
| Quote: | I appreciate the discussion on the proper use of the apostrophe and grammar,
but no one answered my last question---------what file extension is the one
that will work will ALL players. when I start burning what will the output
be?? MP3, WMA, CDA???
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What you are missing is that Cd Audio format doesn't have a notion of
file names.
Now, an audio cd inserted in a computer cd rom drive shows a list of
tracks and Windows gives them ".cda" extensions, but they're not real
files. Files exist only on data format CD-R's.
If you are burning a CD audio disk, your CD audio disk mastering
program will tell you whether you've selected a file format it
supports. Essentially all windows burners will support WAV as a source
format. Most do mp3 these days as well. Many accept WMA I think.
So open your cd burning program, tell it you want to make an audio cd,
drag some mp3's into it and see what happens. WAV will sound best,
but it makes for some really damned big files in comparison to mp3.
Best Regards,
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject:
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Ron Hardin <rhhardin@mindspring.com> writes:
| Quote: | Todd H. wrote:
Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> writes:
Finally, a request: please everyone get out of the habit of putting
apostrophes onto acronyms for plural: like "CD's." The correct usage
is "CDs." The apostrophe is for possessive, as in "LBJ's ranch."
Drives me nuts.
Fair enough.
But realize that grammatical pedants of usenet outside of
alt.english.usage drive the rest of us nuts. 8-)
Good tip on EAC though!
CD's is correct. Acronyms take the apostrophe to prevent you from
trying to pronounce it as a word, serving as a separator.
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Actually, the experts can't come to complete agreement on what's
correct, and the consensus tends to change over time... which is why
it's so dicey for folks to get their panties in a bunch over such
things. In matters of grammar, it's a good idea to check 3 or 4
sources before espousing something as absolute. For instance,
Wikipedia has an entry, for instance that hints at what Richard is
taking as 100% correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe_(mark)
But, we humans do like to point out what they deem as mistakes. After
all, people love being right, and the quickest way to be right without
the trouble of original thought is to point out a little something
that's wrong. Just as I did here ;-). LOL...
Best Regards,
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Ron Hardin
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject:
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Todd H. wrote:
| Quote: | CD's is correct. Acronyms take the apostrophe to prevent you from
trying to pronounce it as a word, serving as a separator.
Actually, the experts can't come to complete agreement on what's
correct, and the consensus tends to change over time... which is why
it's so dicey for folks to get their panties in a bunch over such
things. In matters of grammar, it's a good idea to check 3 or 4
sources before espousing something as absolute. For instance,
Wikipedia has an entry, for instance that hints at what Richard is
taking as 100% correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe_(mark)
But, we humans do like to point out what they deem as mistakes. After
all, people love being right, and the quickest way to be right without
the trouble of original thought is to point out a little something
that's wrong. Just as I did here ;-). LOL...
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There are descriptive grammars, that is, careful studies of what people
actually do, and you can be an expert on that. In descriptive grammar,
CDs is growing in usage, and I don't know what's happening to CD's.
Certainly you can't write "dot your i's" without the apostrophe, so the
apostrophe separator function as plural can't die out.
There are no experts on what the usage ought to be when there's
a disagreement, though you might want to copy somebody who impresses
you otherwise in style; or notice that most people regard something
as ungrammatical, so your style will be interpreted.
Fowler wrote a Modern English Usage chiefly by getting readers to
care about the language enough to recognize why you might want to
do things one way rather than the other.
Grammar in schools is to give children a good start doing things
the way most people do them in standard English. They can vary
from that when they get the hang of the language.
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pak
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject:
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Todd H says " tell it you want to make an audio cd"
OK got it, will this DC play in any CD player, like my car or boom box
"Todd H." <bmiawmb@toddh.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
I appreciate the discussion on the proper use of the apostrophe and
grammar,
but no one answered my last question---------what file extension is the
one
that will work will ALL players. when I start burning what will the
output
be?? MP3, WMA, CDA???
What you are missing is that Cd Audio format doesn't have a notion of
file names.
Now, an audio cd inserted in a computer cd rom drive shows a list of
tracks and Windows gives them ".cda" extensions, but they're not real
files. Files exist only on data format CD-R's.
If you are burning a CD audio disk, your CD audio disk mastering
program will tell you whether you've selected a file format it
supports. Essentially all windows burners will support WAV as a source
format. Most do mp3 these days as well. Many accept WMA I think.
So open your cd burning program, tell it you want to make an audio cd,
drag some mp3's into it and see what happens. WAV will sound best,
but it makes for some really damned big files in comparison to mp3.
Best Regards,
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Todd H.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject:
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"pak" <eckerpw@yahoo.com> writes:
| Quote: | Todd H says " tell it you want to make an audio cd"
OK got it, will this DC play in any CD player, like my car or boom
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YES...with the caveats I listed about lower burn speeds making for a
deeper burn, and hence generally fewer skipping problems in a wider
variety of players that I discussed in detail in prior posts which I
encourage you to reread. 8-)
Just try it fer chrissakes yer not gonna break anything. 8-)
Best Regards,
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