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ScotFraser
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
<< This is something I get all the time and cant understand? : Especialy from
both pianists and recording company excutives that hear a Bösendorfer for
the first time, "can You make it sound more like a steinway?" : Why the h#ll
did they choose a Bösendorfer in the first place then?>>

Most Americans haven't heard or played a Bösendorfer so it sounds unfamiliar to
them. I used to do all my piano sessions at Chick Corea's studio in LA, which
had both a Steinway D & a Bösendorfer Imperial Grand. Every single player I
worked with chose the Steinway.
<<BTW : $110.000 for 9' grand seems pretty steep, >>

Then you don't want to know about the Fazioli. Now there's a fine instrument.

Scott Fraser

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ScotFraser
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
<< I'm looking fwd to trying them on piano (Yamaha DC7), where I often
use the C24. >><BR><BR>

If you want to hear them on a nicely dark C7, bring them over to my place next
time you do a piano session. I'd like to hear them too.

Scott Fraser
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Rob Reedijk
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
Audy <audy@audykimura.com> wrote:
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Carey:

Thanks to you and Bryson for sharing your impressions with us. I would
love to hear your recording when you have time to edit and post it.

I'm a BLUE Vintage Microphone Shop (which makes the Lollipop) dealer
and have some myself. Since I haven't had a chance to record a great
piano, it would be great to hear yours.

Audy O

I too am very happy with my Lollies. Perhaps, seeing as you are a dealer
you can persuade BLUE to provide some details on the mics. They do come
packaged excellently with a nice wood box---but a small manual would be
very helpful. For example---what about the three brass screws? Should
I lock the capsule in place everytime I move it or put it away, or is that
just for more serious situations such as shipping through the mail.

And some reponse graphs would be appreciated. These capsules are
extremely interesting in that they have excellent off-axis response
when there is some distance, but close up it does not sound so
good---which is the opposite to a U89, for example.

If not, I am hoping that someone will shoot some response curves at
some point.

Rob R.
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Bryson
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
ScotFraser wrote:

Quote:
This is something I get all the time and cant understand? : Especialy from
both pianists and recording company excutives that hear a Bösendorfer for
the first time, "can You make it sound more like a steinway?" : Why the h#ll
did they choose a Bösendorfer in the first place then?

Most Americans haven't heard or played a Bösendorfer so it sounds unfamiliar to
them. I used to do all my piano sessions at Chick Corea's studio in LA, which
had both a Steinway D & a Bösendorfer Imperial Grand. Every single player I
worked with chose the Steinway.
BTW : $110.000 for 9' grand seems pretty steep,


Quote:

Then you don't want to know about the Fazioli. Now there's a fine instrument.

Scott Fraser

Don't forget the Cannoli!
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Bryson
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
ScotFraser wrote:
Quote:
I'm looking fwd to trying them on piano (Yamaha DC7), where I often
use the C24. >><BR><BR

If you want to hear them on a nicely dark C7, bring them over to my place next
time you do a piano session. I'd like to hear them too.

Scott Fraser

Ours is not so Yamaha bright. Out tech/tuner took a Dremmel like tool
to the hammers to mellow it out. We were knee deep in felt.
If you're in LA, Scott, you're welcome to try 'em out.
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Kurt Albershardt
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
ScotFraser wrote:
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the Fazioli. Now there's a fine instrument.

Magnetic Balanced Action? From <http://www.iaekm.org/0107_fe1.html>

consider the system used on the Fazioli pianos. Famous for their tone, action, and precise hand-construction, Fazioli pianos also have an adjustable action touch weight. This system, called the Magnetic Balanced Action, was invented by Evert Snel and Hans Velo, and it will be available soon as a retrofit for uprights and grands. Magnets are located in each key, with contacts under the key and on the key frame on either side of the balance rail. One set opposes, the other attracts. Adjusting the relative positions of the magnets affects the touch weight. Adjustments are made globally, for groups of keys, or for individual keys. With this method, changing the feel of your action takes about 30 seconds. It does not, however, take into account any problems that may exist in your action due to incorrect leverage, weight inconsistencies, or friction.
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Kurt Albershardt
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:02 am    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
ScotFraser wrote:
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BTW : $110.000 for 9' grand seems pretty steep

Then you don't want to know about the Fazioli. Now there's a fine instrument.

Gulp <http://www.bluebookofpianos.com/listprices/fazioli.htm>
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Carey Carlan
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
Carey Carlan <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns95A966093C30Dgulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.189.191:

Quote:
Edi Zubovic <edi.zubovic[rem this].@ri.htnet.hr> wrote in
news:fub3q05mduf1s3e27ma8ek5uje8nfud2v9@4ax.com:

Would anyone care to hear a high bitrate MP3 sample?

Yes, I'd like to check it {provided it's reasonably sized for a 56K
connection, heh}. Thanks in advance!

Give me a few days to get to that. It's third in line for editing.

Here's your sample.

http://ccarlan.home.mindspring.com/B6.html
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Carey Carlan
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
audy@audykimura.com (Audy) wrote in
news:6e9dc628.0411221424.5d31d6a5@posting.google.com:

Quote:
Carey:

Thanks to you and Bryson for sharing your impressions with us. I would
love to hear your recording when you have time to edit and post it.

I'm a BLUE Vintage Microphone Shop (which makes the Lollipop) dealer
and have some myself. Since I haven't had a chance to record a great
piano, it would be great to hear yours.

Audy O

Listen here:

http://ccarlan.home.mindspring.com/B6.html
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Edi Zubovic
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 05:31:33 GMT, Carey Carlan <gulfjoe@hotmail.com>
wrote:

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Give me a few days to get to that. It's third in line for editing.

Here's your sample.

http://ccarlan.home.mindspring.com/B6.html

Thank you, Carey. I've got the samples. First off, a very good
recording indeed. Quiet and very dynamic. It sure could bring an
equipment to its limits -- there's ample mid-frequencies energy
present. What I like is that the recording isn't fancy but reflects
both the microphone, which seems to be a fine one (quite robust to
impulses) and its placement ie. distance. A stronger re-equalization
is I would say not necessary as it would disturb such sound picture. I
can hear, at the "Slow", a pedal bump. But generally I like such
occurences, if undisturbing, as they contribute to detail and liveness
of a recording. The acoustics appears natural too what I find also
fine. And I love the fermatas at the end! Now that must be a fine
player, she/he took its time and that's good.

A good work.

Edi Zubovic, Crikvenica, Croatia
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Kurt Albershardt
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
Carey Carlan wrote:
Quote:

Here's your sample.
http://ccarlan.home.mindspring.com/B6.html

Thanks!

Nice to hear all the notes, something some pianos don't quite seem able to manage.
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Kurt Albershardt
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: First use of BLUE Lollipop B7 capsule Reply with quote
Kurt Albershardt wrote:
Quote:
Carey Carlan wrote:


Here's your sample.
http://ccarlan.home.mindspring.com/B6.html


Thanks!

Nice to hear all the notes, something some pianos

and many recordings

> don't quite seem able to manage.
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