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RB
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject:
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Kissing Lettuce wrote:
| Quote: | Zappy wrote:
"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
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they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
for all the LCD knockers.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
DAVO
Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
Really?
Care to cite a reference for this assumption
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I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.
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kubalister
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:
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AnthonyP69 wrote:
| Quote: | You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!
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Sorry to have to break the news to you, but I'm typing this response
whilst viewing a 23" LCD display with a resolution of 1920x1200. Quite a
few manufacturers have now released large 1920x1080 res LCD displays
including Samsung with its 82 inch 1920x1080 res display:
http://www.physorg.com/news3271.html
Samsung 46 and 57 inch HDTV (1920x1080) LCD displays are already
available for purchase.
Sharp also has a lineup of 1920x1080 res LCD displays.
In fact there are now more full HDTV 1920x1080 capable LCD displays
available on the market than plasma displays.
| Quote: | This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
plasma.
Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc...... |
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Mike
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject:
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I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing. But the plasma picture has more natural look about it, the LCD
looks a little harsh and garish in its colours compared to plasma. And the
refresh rate, 16ms which is fairly standard amongst the middle range LCD's,
is completely hopeless for fast moving action shots like the tennis,
especially if there is high contrast between the moving subject and the
background - not a good look - in fact it really sucks - if I had known how
bad this is I would not have bought the LCD.
So as I see it LCD are nice but wanting is some areas, no doubt the LCD
supporters will cry foul over this but if your want an LCD screen 40" plus
in size and a refresh rate of no more than 8ms to get rid of the nasty pixel
lag, you are talking big bucks compared with an equivalent plasma. The
plasmas aint perfect but they deliver much more bang for the buck. As we
constantly hear from the LCD camp, they are getting better and better, sure
but who says plasma is not being enhanced as well. For me flatscreen
widescreen is optimally big screen and LCD's are not within a bull's roar of
plasmas pricewise. Next time the LCD camp rushes out and promotes the
latest and greatest, how about a price to go with it to see how that stacks
up with an equivalent plasma.
"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gordon
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject:
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"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"acalcium" <acalcium@aol.com> wrote in message
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David Z wrote:
If it ain't broke (CRT) , don't fix it.
That's what they said about the horse and buggy.
and the world would be a better place if we still used them now...:
But really the CRT is a far better format...
Faster refresh rate, not digital Rain effects, No limited life, eg Plasmas
around 10,000 hours of use...
Technology for the sake of technology...
As David said, If it ain't broke....
As much as I no disagrement that crt projection is the way to go from the |
quality point of view, to say that they have no limitations in terms of tube
life is in imo incorrect.If one has a look at various forums relating to
crt projection you see that the tubes have limited life and while that is
between 3 and 10 times greater than the average lcd bulb ,it is still a
factor that has to be considered.Most Hd plasmas are capable of stunning
still images and occasionally stunning moving pictures.Trouble is both lcd
and plasma still have to many probs and if you can put up with an old
fashioned and perhaps smaller crt ctv the you will still get better quality
than either of the new technologies.
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Kissing Lettuce
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject:
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RB wrote:
| Quote: | Kissing Lettuce wrote:
Zappy wrote:
"DAVO" <davideo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgGxe.12584$oJ.5296@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Like I said some months ago, technology can only improve with LCD panels
and
they already have according to Hitachi. Will be worth taking a bo-peep at
for all the LCD knockers.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
DAVO
Spot on Davo, Plasma is a scam.
Really?
Care to cite a reference for this assumption
I think the fact that plasma televisions are a pile of steaming crap is
a fairly well documented one (short life span, ultra high prices).
Hence them no longer being produced by companies such as Sony.
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Fair enough but if they were such a scam why were
they hyped as the "next big thing" in the first place? |
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WKC
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Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:
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A high end TV/Projector salesman once told me that they were lesser quality
than CRT, and only sold well because girlfriends and wives thought they
looked better (designwise-not picturewise), and would take up less space in
the loungeroom. He said that in the end the seemingly genuine loungeroom
space argument wasn't even true, because they usually ended up sitting
diagonally in a corner just like the old crt and taking up the same amont of
space. All the males present had a good laugh.
Darren.
| Quote: | Fair enough but if they were such a scam why were
they hyped as the "next big thing" in the first place? |
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AnthonyP69
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:
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Imolator,
Where in my post did I mention CRT????
No one who has responded to my post has addressed anything more than
the display resolution......
What about all the other short comings from the use LCD??
Imolator wrote:
| Quote: | Hey Anthonyp69 crt technology also does not follow Moore's law, and
niether does
plasma.
Since when has crt followed Moores's law, this is a ludacris statement.
Every 18mthts twice as fast and 1/2 the price. :) Lcd has its
advantages size and energy consumption being just two, but crt has been
a stagnent technology for a fair while now.
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Marcus
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DAVO
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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"AnthonyP69" <preston_anthony@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You seem to have already forgot to mention things like screen door
effect, poor blacks, low colour gammets, slow refresh rates and the
fact that no LCD display has a 1920x1080 resolution yet!
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Sorry Anthony, wrong wrong, wrong. The Aquos LC45G1XSYS from Sharp has those
specs in a 45" panel as well.
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This technology also does not follow Moore's law, and niether does
plasma.
Transparent technology is no way to move forward. Try some reflective
technology, LCOS, DLP, SXRD etc......
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, yet again Anthony! You obviously never read my original
post.Have another go at it.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1357
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DAVO
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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"Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing.
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SNIP
Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.
Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
wood.
DAVO |
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Ben Thomas
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:
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DAVO wrote:
| Quote: | "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing.
SNIP
Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.
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DAVO,
Consider Sony's support of Beta video and Minidisc for a couple of technologies
that died. Their support of a technology does not prove that it is the way to go
- quite the opposite in fact...
Ben |
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DAVO
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:47 am Post subject:
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"Ben Thomas" <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in message
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| Quote: | DAVO wrote:
"Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close
up
viewing.
SNIP
Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with
plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.
DAVO,
Consider Sony's support of Beta video and Minidisc for a couple of
technologies
that died. Their support of a technology does not prove that it is the way
to go
- quite the opposite in fact...
Ben
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G'day Ben,
Sony made the electronic industries' biggest mistake on record with how they
marketed Betacord. I wouldn't call the Minidisc anywhere near the mistake of
Betacord.
However, the rapid speed and progress of todays' technology can never be
compared to those early pioneering days. I am not saying I totally dislike
Plasma, it's just that it's at it's peak and to move on to something better,
LCD at the moment is the choice for the best overall performance. Time will
prove this to be the case.
If you go back even just 12 months, we were all being bombarded with the
brilliant technology of Plasmas, together with the price drops and believe
me that was only because of the more significant advancements of LCD
television.
Exciting times ahead for the next 12months.
DAVO |
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Kissing Lettuce
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:54 am Post subject:
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DAVO wrote:
| Quote: | "Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing.
SNIP
Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.
Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
wood.
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Hang on books are not blocks of wood but
sheets of paper bound together in a format
one can read |
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:20 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:12:28 +0930, Kissing Lettuce
<sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote:
| Quote: | DAVO wrote:
"Mike" <laikanuki@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c7e966$0$9727$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
I have a 46" SD plasma and 27" HD LCD. Pricewise, LCD's are a hopeless
loser when it gets to the big sizes, plasma wins hands down.
The LCD has a nice bright picture and fine resolution, great for close up
viewing.
SNIP
Well it appears some of you have a closed mind on this subject with plasma
vs LCD. You are forgetting one major player in all this (SONY Corp) have
walked away from Plasma and are concentrating on LCD development. Surely
this must tell you something about the two formats.
Oh, by the way, a closed mind is like a closed book.....just a block of
wood.
Hang on books are not blocks of wood but
sheets of paper bound together in a format
one can read
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on Davo's lcd the books look like blocks of wood. |
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Uncle Bully
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