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Sat May 07, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject:
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On 5/6/05 6:35 PM, in article r8sn719e70rimqen4bu827hum1cvvedlas@4ax.com,
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 06 May 2005 14:13:09 GMT, SSJVCmag <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com
wrote:
On 5/6/05 9:43 AM, in article
EvKee.5949$V01.5796@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Dave Martin"
dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote:
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gpem71l372eoneuhh12jvnnqhm7ga88kte@4ax.com...
It's not a Fender... the Danelectro Baritone/6 string basses sound
better, plus Vinnie Bell helped design them... I doubt he would be
caught dead playing a Fender VI.
Well, I own all three of the instruments you mentioned - a Fender Bass VI, a
Danelectro Baritone, and a Danelectro tic-tac (6 string bass for you east
and west coasters). I wouldn't characterize the Fender as sounding worse
than the Danos, only different. I use them all.
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals
Grady Tate played on that? Wow he really had the old school crew on
there.
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Oldschool scmoldschool... You want results, you hire good.
My god... It ain't WHAT school... It's Good vs Blah.
I was assisting live-recording a pretty decent jazz band last night...
Turns out they were the break-band for a night of Big Money Raising for
children;s hospital (who knew?)
SET 1 -them
SET 2 - diane schurr
Set 3 THEM
Set 4 Nancy Wilson
Set 5 them
Now Diane Schurr was marvelous
but Wilson and her trio Absolutly Melted Everybody in the room
.....AT HER 3-song SOUND CHECK....
3 guys and a 70yr old lady in a jogging suit wandering around stage like she
was looking for a lost pair of glasses tweaking monitors and stage details
and oh-by-the-way making music that'd wipe every
Jones/Keyes/Carey/Houston/Whomever-slaved-over-tweaked-edited 'performance'
from the last decade into little potato-chip crumbs in the carpet.
Her -set- was Something From Another Plane.
Bob O knows why.
So do at least a handfull of the regulars here.
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Tommy B
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Sat May 07, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Guitar sound secret - Twin Peaks |
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You can't teach class!
Tom
"SSJVCmag" <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com> wrote in message
news:BEA26DD3.7607%ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com...
| Quote: | On 5/6/05 6:35 PM, in article r8sn719e70rimqen4bu827hum1cvvedlas@4ax.com,
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 14:13:09 GMT, SSJVCmag <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com
wrote:
On 5/6/05 9:43 AM, in article
EvKee.5949$V01.5796@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Dave Martin"
dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote:
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gpem71l372eoneuhh12jvnnqhm7ga88kte@4ax.com...
It's not a Fender... the Danelectro Baritone/6 string basses sound
better, plus Vinnie Bell helped design them... I doubt he would be
caught dead playing a Fender VI.
Well, I own all three of the instruments you mentioned - a Fender Bass
VI, a
Danelectro Baritone, and a Danelectro tic-tac (6 string bass for you
east
and west coasters). I wouldn't characterize the Fender as sounding
worse
than the Danos, only different. I use them all.
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would
start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals
Grady Tate played on that? Wow he really had the old school crew on
there.
Oldschool scmoldschool... You want results, you hire good.
My god... It ain't WHAT school... It's Good vs Blah.
I was assisting live-recording a pretty decent jazz band last night...
Turns out they were the break-band for a night of Big Money Raising for
children;s hospital (who knew?)
SET 1 -them
SET 2 - diane schurr
Set 3 THEM
Set 4 Nancy Wilson
Set 5 them
Now Diane Schurr was marvelous
but Wilson and her trio Absolutly Melted Everybody in the room
....AT HER 3-song SOUND CHECK....
3 guys and a 70yr old lady in a jogging suit wandering around stage like
she
was looking for a lost pair of glasses tweaking monitors and stage details
and oh-by-the-way making music that'd wipe every
Jones/Keyes/Carey/Houston/Whomever-slaved-over-tweaked-edited
'performance'
from the last decade into little potato-chip crumbs in the carpet.
Her -set- was Something From Another Plane.
Bob O knows why.
So do at least a handfull of the regulars here.
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SSJVCmag
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Sun May 08, 2005 1:50 am Post subject:
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FOR DISCUSSION:
I think indeed to a major degree class IS learned. Aside from perhaps some
level of inate propensity to PAY ATTENTION, and a strong sense of
self-assurance and poise (which again is as much nuture as nature)... how
you carry yourself, how you choose in any situation to relate to what comes
at you from others, how you insist on The Best -first- from yourself and
then EXPECT it (and handle the lack of it with generosity, grace and style)
from others, is first learned by watching others who do this well and
naturally, and then CHOSEN as a Proper Manner for yourself.
And -with- all og that, it sure makes a difference to have -It-.
On 5/7/05 2:49 PM, in article
O48fe.8566$GQ5.6840@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Tommy B"
<mrtomm@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | You can't teach class!
Tom
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would
start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals
Grady Tate played on that? Wow he really had the old school crew on
there.
Oldschool scmoldschool... You want results, you hire good.
My god... It ain't WHAT school... It's Good vs Blah.
I was assisting live-recording a pretty decent jazz band last night...
Turns out they were the break-band for a night of Big Money Raising for
children;s hospital (who knew?)
SET 1 -them
SET 2 - diane schurr
Set 3 THEM
Set 4 Nancy Wilson
Set 5 them
Now Diane Schurr was marvelous
but Wilson and her trio Absolutly Melted Everybody in the room
....AT HER 3-song SOUND CHECK....
3 guys and a 70yr old lady in a jogging suit wandering around stage like
she
was looking for a lost pair of glasses tweaking monitors and stage details
and oh-by-the-way making music that'd wipe every
Jones/Keyes/Carey/Houston/Whomever-slaved-over-tweaked-edited
'performance'
from the last decade into little potato-chip crumbs in the carpet.
Her -set- was Something From Another Plane.
Bob O knows why.
So do at least a handfull of the regulars here.
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playon
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| Posted:
Sun May 08, 2005 1:56 am Post subject:
Re: Guitar sound secret - Twin Peaks |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 17:06:28 GMT, SSJVCmag <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On 5/6/05 6:35 PM, in article r8sn719e70rimqen4bu827hum1cvvedlas@4ax.com,
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
Grady Tate played on that? Wow he really had the old school crew on
there.
Oldschool scmoldschool... You want results, you hire good.
My god... It ain't WHAT school... It's Good vs Blah.
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I didn't mean anything in particular by using that phrase, it's just
that I was surprised as I hadn't seen Grady Tate's name on anything
for a long time & didn't realize he played on that stuff.
| Quote: | I was assisting live-recording a pretty decent jazz band last night...
Turns out they were the break-band for a night of Big Money Raising for
children;s hospital (who knew?)
SET 1 -them
SET 2 - diane schurr
Set 3 THEM
Set 4 Nancy Wilson
Set 5 them
Now Diane Schurr was marvelous
but Wilson and her trio Absolutly Melted Everybody in the room
....AT HER 3-song SOUND CHECK....
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I'm a person who just doesn't "get" Diane Schurr. I know she's a pro
and has mass chops but stylistically it's not my thing.
Al |
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Joe Sensor
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Sun May 08, 2005 2:49 am Post subject:
Re: Great Manners, Talent & Skill (was Guitar sound secret - |
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SSJVCmag wrote:
| Quote: | FOR DISCUSSION:
I think indeed to a major degree class IS learned. Aside from perhaps some
level of inate propensity to PAY ATTENTION, and a strong sense of
self-assurance and poise (which again is as much nuture as nature)... how
you carry yourself, how you choose in any situation to relate to what comes
at you from others, how you insist on The Best -first- from yourself and
then EXPECT it (and handle the lack of it with generosity, grace and style)
from others, is first learned by watching others who do this well and
naturally, and then CHOSEN as a Proper Manner for yourself.
And -with- all og that, it sure makes a difference to have -It-.
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What are you going on about?? |
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David Morgan (MAMS)
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Sun May 08, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:
Re: Great Manners, Talent & Skill (was Guitar sound secret - |
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"Joe Sensor" <crabcakes@emagic.net> wrote in message...
| Quote: | What are you going on about??
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"It", man... "it" !!
Either we have "it" or we don't.
Do you still have yours? |
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Tommy B
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Sun May 08, 2005 3:18 am Post subject:
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Experience & observation seem to be the best teaching method.
Humility can't be taught, but it sure can be learned.
Motown used to teach it's acts how to dress, speak etc., but this is not
class, cause it's an "outside job"
True class comes from within, like humility,IMHO.
A wise man once said to me, Trust the Art, not the Artist.
Then there's the "Golden Rule", now that's class!
Tom
"SSJVCmag" <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com> wrote in message
news:BEA2A244.7626%ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com...
| Quote: | FOR DISCUSSION:
I think indeed to a major degree class IS learned. Aside from perhaps some
level of inate propensity to PAY ATTENTION, and a strong sense of
self-assurance and poise (which again is as much nuture as nature)... how
you carry yourself, how you choose in any situation to relate to what
comes
at you from others, how you insist on The Best -first- from yourself and
then EXPECT it (and handle the lack of it with generosity, grace and
style)
from others, is first learned by watching others who do this well and
naturally, and then CHOSEN as a Proper Manner for yourself.
And -with- all og that, it sure makes a difference to have -It-.
On 5/7/05 2:49 PM, in article
O48fe.8566$GQ5.6840@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Tommy B"
mrtomm@earthlink.net> wrote:
You can't teach class!
Tom
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would
start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals
Grady Tate played on that? Wow he really had the old school crew on
there.
Oldschool scmoldschool... You want results, you hire good.
My god... It ain't WHAT school... It's Good vs Blah.
I was assisting live-recording a pretty decent jazz band last night...
Turns out they were the break-band for a night of Big Money Raising for
children;s hospital (who knew?)
SET 1 -them
SET 2 - diane schurr
Set 3 THEM
Set 4 Nancy Wilson
Set 5 them
Now Diane Schurr was marvelous
but Wilson and her trio Absolutly Melted Everybody in the room
....AT HER 3-song SOUND CHECK....
3 guys and a 70yr old lady in a jogging suit wandering around stage
like
she
was looking for a lost pair of glasses tweaking monitors and stage
details
and oh-by-the-way making music that'd wipe every
Jones/Keyes/Carey/Houston/Whomever-slaved-over-tweaked-edited
'performance'
from the last decade into little potato-chip crumbs in the carpet.
Her -set- was Something From Another Plane.
Bob O knows why.
So do at least a handfull of the regulars here.
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SSJVCmag
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Sun May 08, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:
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On 5/7/05 5:55 PM, in article 4Pafe.1660$hb1.105@trnddc05, "David Morgan
(MAMS)" <mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote:
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"Joe Sensor" <crabcakes@emagic.net> wrote in message...
What are you going on about??
"It", man... "it" !!
Either we have "it" or we don't.
Do you still have yours?
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Some people just don't get It.
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playon
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Sat May 14, 2005 12:47 am Post subject:
Re: Guitar sound secret - Twin Peaks |
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Well hush my mouth...
On 13 May 2005 04:58:06 -0700, "kinny.landrum@gmail.com"
<kinny.landrum@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
I'm the guy who actually did that sound and it was a sample of a Duane
Eddy-type guitar on my Emulator 2. It was pitched down into the bass
register. David asked me to put "something 50s" on the track, and
Angelo just turned and looked away, like it was my problem. So I
rejected the usual cliches like high triplets on the piano and realized
there was no bass on the record. (The theme was originally a song
called "Falling" that David and Angelo wrote for Julee Cruise.) There
were low keyboards and strings but no bass per se so I said to David "I
have this Duane Eddy type guitar sound, perhaps we could pitch it in
the bass register." He said, let's hear it, heard a few notes, and to
his everlasting credit (because he didn't make me jump through any more
hoops) said, that's it, record it. Now remember that an E2 could only
do an octave of transposition either way, and this was a sample of a
guitar low A, but fortunately the lowest note I needed was Bb. And the
"tremolo" was done solely in the E2, by amplitude modulation, something
sorely missed on most of today's keyboards. Although Vinnie played on
the soundtrack, and has always been a good friend to me, and although I
understand he later doubled it or something, Art Polhemus the engineer
says my sample was all that was used in the finished mix. That's my
story, and I'm sticking to it.
Kinny Landrum
SSJVCmag wrote:
On 5/6/05 9:43 AM, in article
EvKee.5949$V01.5796@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Dave Martin"
dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote:
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gpem71l372eoneuhh12jvnnqhm7ga88kte@4ax.com...
It's not a Fender... the Danelectro Baritone/6 string basses sound
better, plus Vinnie Bell helped design them... I doubt he would be
caught dead playing a Fender VI.
Well, I own all three of the instruments you mentioned - a Fender
Bass VI, a
Danelectro Baritone, and a Danelectro tic-tac (6 string bass for
you east
and west coasters). I wouldn't characterize the Fender as sounding
worse
than the Danos, only different. I use them all.
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would
start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals |
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Locsmándi Bence
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Sat May 14, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject:
Re: Guitar sound secret - Twin Peaks |
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Thanks a lot, Kinny!
b.
<kinny.landrum@gmail.com> az alábbiakat írta a következo hírüzenetben:
1115985486.072482.245160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello,
I'm the guy who actually did that sound and it was a sample of a Duane
Eddy-type guitar on my Emulator 2. It was pitched down into the bass
register. David asked me to put "something 50s" on the track, and
Angelo just turned and looked away, like it was my problem. So I
rejected the usual cliches like high triplets on the piano and realized
there was no bass on the record. (The theme was originally a song
called "Falling" that David and Angelo wrote for Julee Cruise.) There
were low keyboards and strings but no bass per se so I said to David "I
have this Duane Eddy type guitar sound, perhaps we could pitch it in
the bass register." He said, let's hear it, heard a few notes, and to
his everlasting credit (because he didn't make me jump through any more
hoops) said, that's it, record it. Now remember that an E2 could only
do an octave of transposition either way, and this was a sample of a
guitar low A, but fortunately the lowest note I needed was Bb. And the
"tremolo" was done solely in the E2, by amplitude modulation, something
sorely missed on most of today's keyboards. Although Vinnie played on
the soundtrack, and has always been a good friend to me, and although I
understand he later doubled it or something, Art Polhemus the engineer
says my sample was all that was used in the finished mix. That's my
story, and I'm sticking to it.
Kinny Landrum
SSJVCmag wrote:
On 5/6/05 9:43 AM, in article
EvKee.5949$V01.5796@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Dave Martin"
dmainc@earthlink.net> wrote:
"playon" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gpem71l372eoneuhh12jvnnqhm7ga88kte@4ax.com...
It's not a Fender... the Danelectro Baritone/6 string basses sound
better, plus Vinnie Bell helped design them... I doubt he would be
caught dead playing a Fender VI.
Well, I own all three of the instruments you mentioned - a Fender
Bass VI, a
Danelectro Baritone, and a Danelectro tic-tac (6 string bass for
you east
and west coasters). I wouldn't characterize the Fender as sounding
worse
than the Danos, only different. I use them all.
The things you need to have in the studio to get that TP sound would
start
(and probably end) with the following:
Angelo Badalamenti - Synthesizers and piano
Kinny Landrum - Synthesizers
Vinnie Bell - Electric guitars
Eddie Dixon - Electric guitars
Al Regni - Tenor saxophone, clarinet and flute
Eddie Daniels - Flute and clarinet
Grady Tate - Drums
Julee Cruise - Vocals
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