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Nellie McKay
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:00 am Post subject:
Nellie McKay plays "Sari" on CBS Late Late Show (19 Nov 2004 |
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Live recording from WCBS-TV at ~01:30 ET on Friday 11/19/2004...
The CBS "Late Late Show" featured musical guest was Nellie McKay.
She sang her infamous song "Sari" right at the close of the program.
Performance runs approximately 3 minutes and there is a fragment
of commercial included (didn't press Stop Record button fast enuff).
IMO, it wasn't anywhere near her best performance of this song,
in fact she seemed to deliver the lines as if she were drugged or
bored of the song, or maybe she realized hardly anyone would be
watching/listening at that hour of night. But the fans will still like
the clip, I'm sure :)
Captured from analog cable with Compro VideoMate Ultra installed
in a Dell Precision 650 Workstation with Pentium-4 Xeon 3.2GHz,
2GB memory. TV Capture card has built-in 2D/3D adaptive Y-C
filter, smart deinterlacer, video noise reduction, edge enhancer,
and other fancy features.
On-the-fly compression to DivX format using Compro PVR 2 and
DivX Pro v5.2.1 video codec in Fast Mode, 950kbit/s target bitrate,
30 frames/second, 24-bit color depth, Psychovisual enhancer
enabled in Fast Mode, Ulead MPEG Layer-3 audio codec used,
192kbps Joint-Stereo.
The audio/video sync drifts a bit towards the end of clip.
If you want to fix this with VirtualDub or whatever feel free.
It's less of a problem if you play it using DivX Player and
not using Microsoft Windows Media Player (WMP = bad).
enjoy
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Sheppy
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Nellie McKay plays "Sari" on CBS Late Late Show (19 Nov |
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Been there - worn the Tee Shirt - get a hardware capture device, not one
that captures and encodes on the fly; these all seem to lose audio sync
eventually, and wait for this - since this is a Non-binaries group all I see
is this posting, not the massive multi-part video clip associated with it,
thank god.
| Quote: | Live recording from WCBS-TV at ~01:30 ET on Friday 11/19/2004...
The CBS "Late Late Show" featured musical guest was Nellie McKay.
She sang her infamous song "Sari" right at the close of the program.
Performance runs approximately 3 minutes and there is a fragment
of commercial included (didn't press Stop Record button fast enuff).
IMO, it wasn't anywhere near her best performance of this song,
in fact she seemed to deliver the lines as if she were drugged or
bored of the song, or maybe she realized hardly anyone would be
watching/listening at that hour of night. But the fans will still like
the clip, I'm sure :)
Captured from analog cable with Compro VideoMate Ultra installed
in a Dell Precision 650 Workstation with Pentium-4 Xeon 3.2GHz,
2GB memory. TV Capture card has built-in 2D/3D adaptive Y-C
filter, smart deinterlacer, video noise reduction, edge enhancer,
and other fancy features.
On-the-fly compression to DivX format using Compro PVR 2 and
DivX Pro v5.2.1 video codec in Fast Mode, 950kbit/s target bitrate,
30 frames/second, 24-bit color depth, Psychovisual enhancer
enabled in Fast Mode, Ulead MPEG Layer-3 audio codec used,
192kbps Joint-Stereo.
The audio/video sync drifts a bit towards the end of clip.
If you want to fix this with VirtualDub or whatever feel free.
It's less of a problem if you play it using DivX Player and
not using Microsoft Windows Media Player (WMP = bad).
enjoy |
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Nellie McKay
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Nellie McKay plays "Sari" on CBS Late Late Show (19 Nov |
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Billy Joe
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Nellie McKay plays "Sari" on CBS Late Late Show (19 Nov |
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Sheppy wrote:
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| Quote: | get a hardware capture device, not one that captures and
encodes on the fly; these all seem to lose audio sync
eventually
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I see this mentioned often by many posters in several groups and
finally I'm asking if anyone has recent experience with specific OTF
MPEG2 converters that exhibit this problem?
I'm asking as a long-time user of the Hauppauge 250 PCI, which has had
several software upgrades released during my ownership since late 2000
or early 2001.
The H250 capture quality is clearly better than TiVo "best" (a
comparison I have made only twice). I can play the MPEG2/MP2 capture
from DVD media with no processing and replay the same show from TiVo.
I've never had an a/v sync issue, tho software of several releases ago
would sometimes cause a/v problems to my Divx conversions after
editing. As that occurred with editing either with the OEM nanoPEG
editor, or with TMPGEnc's MPEG tools, I suspect it may have been a
structural problem in the MPG files?
More recent software upgrades have been flawless in passing edited
MPEG files to either DVD-Lab (which I only used for testing, as I've
no need for the DVD format), or FlaskMPEG or VDub-MPEG2 either of
which I may use to create Divx files from the captures).
While my OTF MPEG2 capture/conversion experience is obviously narrow
(apparently having, by pure luck, chosen an outstanding product) I
hesitate to recommend a product that falls into a reviled category.
Relating your specific experiences which lead you to your conclusion
would appreciated!
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Sheppy
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:04 am Post subject:
Re: Nellie McKay plays "Sari" on CBS Late Late Show (19 Nov |
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I spoke from the experience that most, but not all, capture devices which
use the host CPU to capture audio/ video and encode in real-time always seem
to lose audio sync while capturing, there are methods to avoid audio sync
issues-
1) Use a low CPU hit codec while capturing
2) use smaller frame sizes, or the native resolution of the capture card.
3) Capturing PCM Audio is usually better than encoding on-the-fly.
4) Have a fast CPU & HDD.
But it always seems that hardware devices which encode in hardware- either
Mpeg2 encoders or DV Video/ Firewire bridge devices lose sync a lot less
than normal PCI Video Capture cards.
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Rarely, if ever, the fault can be blamed on the Mpeg encoder, BUT the
real-time- encoders place sync markers in the file, which allow the players
to retain sync when playing back. But the programs which re-encode these
files do not know about these markers or how to handle them properly, thus
assume no dropped frames and lose sync while re-encoding.
| Quote: | get a hardware capture device, not one that captures and
encodes on the fly; these all seem to lose audio sync
eventually
snip
I see this mentioned often by many posters in several groups and
finally I'm asking if anyone has recent experience with specific OTF
MPEG2 converters that exhibit this problem?
I'm asking as a long-time user of the Hauppauge 250 PCI, which has had
several software upgrades released during my ownership since late 2000
or early 2001.
The H250 capture quality is clearly better than TiVo "best" (a
comparison I have made only twice). I can play the MPEG2/MP2 capture
from DVD media with no processing and replay the same show from TiVo.
I've never had an a/v sync issue, tho software of several releases ago
would sometimes cause a/v problems to my Divx conversions after
editing. As that occurred with editing either with the OEM nanoPEG
editor, or with TMPGEnc's MPEG tools, I suspect it may have been a
structural problem in the MPG files?
More recent software upgrades have been flawless in passing edited
MPEG files to either DVD-Lab (which I only used for testing, as I've
no need for the DVD format), or FlaskMPEG or VDub-MPEG2 either of
which I may use to create Divx files from the captures).
While my OTF MPEG2 capture/conversion experience is obviously narrow
(apparently having, by pure luck, chosen an outstanding product) I
hesitate to recommend a product that falls into a reviled category.
Relating your specific experiences which lead you to your conclusion
would appreciated! |
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