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Jamie
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:
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Jamie <spamthis@spam.com> wrote:
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This isn't so bad. While you are FF through a commercial, some static
banner is going to pop up.
If every commercial has one, it might even be easier to skip commercials
and come off FF at the right time... as soon as the banner disappears.
Part of that has a smiley. Part of that is from someone who liked Wink
Interactive TV. Part is the reality that doing "something" about
commercials is a way to preserve the ability to FF through them, and fend
off lawsuits about enabling commercial skipping technologies.
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:
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In article <OlLmd.349330$wV.194489@attbi_s54>, Jamie
<spamthis@spam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-tivo17nov17,0,927837.story?coll=la-h
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*vomits*
Maybe my cable company's DVR isn't such a bad idea after all...
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pulled down the stars to our will."
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Rich Carreiro
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> writes:
What the heck is the big deal?
I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on
these ads, but all they're talking about is putting up
an image while you're FFWing over certain ads. So what?
Now, I can certainly understand people seeing this and worrying
about what might be next.
But what's so bad about this specifically?
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MegaZone
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject:
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | I don't like having ads forced on me.
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So use 30 second skip.
| Quote: | The image in and of itself is intrusive and inconvenient. Why should I
be forced to put up with it?
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Intrusive *maybe* you could make an argument for - but how is it
inconvenient? Nothing at all changes about how you use the box. If
you're alread FF'ing through the ads, you still do. Now instead of
just a blipvert on the screen you have a blipvert with a static pop-up
in the corner. You are free to ignore it.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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MegaZone
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject:
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | And that static pop-up won't interfere with the ability to skip and/or
FF? It won't demand attention every time it appears (i.e. putting the
TiVo on "halt" until you do something, like a dialog box does with most
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No, it is just like the TiVoMatic pop-ups.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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MegaZone
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject:
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | What are "TiVoMatic" pop-ups? Those thumbs-up things that show up when
a certain show is on and it says "Press thumbs-up to record"?
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Yep.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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John Poutre
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:00 am Post subject:
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"Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote in message
news:m3d5ycqtzv.fsf@animato.home.lan...
| Quote: | Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> writes:
In article <OlLmd.349330$wV.194489@attbi_s54>, Jamie
spamthis@spam.com> wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-tivo17nov17,0,927837.story?coll=la-h
ome-headlines
*vomits*
Maybe my cable company's DVR isn't such a bad idea after all...
What the heck is the big deal?
I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on
these ads, but all they're talking about is putting up
an image while you're FFWing over certain ads. So what?
Now, I can certainly understand people seeing this and worrying
about what might be next.
But what's so bad about this specifically?
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I agree 100%. I have no problem at all. Hey, if you want to go to the
cable DVR, go ahead. You get what you pay for. |
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Kenny
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:40 am Post subject:
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"Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote in message
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But what's so bad about this specifically?
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Nothing, unless your an advertiser. The article didn't say if these banner
ads would be for the products being FF through or not, but they did say that
the banner ads would be offering contest entries, giveaways or links to
other ads, which could easily lead one to infer that these banners may not
have anything to do with the broadcast commercial. I know that if my
company were paying that kind of money to produce and air a TV ad, having
someone elses ad pop up over mine just because my ad is being FF is not
going to sit well with my companies legal dept. As a Tivo user, I don't FF
through commercials because I don't want to see the commercials. I FF
through commercials so that I can get to the next segment of the show I'm
watching so that I can continue with watching it. |
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:04 am Post subject:
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In article <m3d5ycqtzv.fsf@animato.home.lan>, Rich Carreiro
<rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:
I don't like having ads forced on me.
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I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on
these ads, but all they're talking about is putting up
an image while you're FFWing over certain ads. So what?
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The image in and of itself is intrusive and inconvenient. Why should I
be forced to put up with it?
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Now, I can certainly understand people seeing this and worrying
about what might be next.
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That too.
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pulled down the stars to our will."
- Ezra Pound, poet and critic, 9/18/1912, reflecting on New York City |
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Matt
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:
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"Kenny" <ohmygodtheykilledme@southpark.com> wrote in
news:301nq4F2r81c5U1@uni-berlin.de:
| Quote: | "Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote in message
news:m3d5ycqtzv.fsf@animato.home.lan...
But what's so bad about this specifically?
Nothing, unless your an advertiser. The article didn't say if these
banner ads would be for the products being FF through or not, but they
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The banner will be triggered by a tag in the signal provided by the
advertiser. Just like the "press thumbs up for more information" is today.
This is just a bigger icon/image.
| Quote: | did say that the banner ads would be offering contest entries, giveaways
or links to other ads, which could easily lead one to infer that these
banners may not have anything to do with the broadcast commercial. I
know that if my company were paying that kind of money to produce and air
a TV ad, having someone elses ad pop up over mine just because my ad is
being FF is not going to sit well with my companies legal dept. As a
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You will not need to worry. Unless you put iPreview tags in your adds for
your someone else.
| Quote: | Tivo user, I don't FF through commercials because I don't want to see the
commercials. I FF through commercials so that I can get to the next
segment of the show I'm watching so that I can continue with watching it.
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You'll still be able to do this exactly the same way.
Today when an iPreview tag is hit in a comercial, the thumb icon appears and
the image continues streaking by in the background. This change is to add
another image, provided by the advertiser, to show in addition to the thumb
icon. Meaning you'll have a better chance a knowing what the thumb is for
without having to stop fastforwarding. TiVoPony posted the details on Tivo
Community.
Doesn't sound so bad when you look at the details instead of the headline. |
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Wes Newell
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:31 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:13:08 -0500, Rich Carreiro wrote:
| Quote: | Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> writes:
In article <OlLmd.349330$wV.194489@attbi_s54>, Jamie
spamthis@spam.com> wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-tivo17nov17,0,927837.story?coll=la-h
ome-headlines
*vomits*
Maybe my cable company's DVR isn't such a bad idea after all...
What the heck is the big deal?
I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on these ads, but
all they're talking about is putting up an image while you're FFWing
over certain ads. So what?
Now, I can certainly understand people seeing this and worrying about
what might be next.
But what's so bad about this specifically?
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Well I don't know about you, but when I fast forward past commercials, I
still have to watch the screen to see when they are over. Now if the new
ad doesn't allow you to see what's really showing, then it could cause a
problem. Although since I don't have a sub, it probably won't effect me.
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:31 am Post subject:
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In article <megazone.1100723436@sidehack.sat.gweep.net>, MegaZone
<newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
I don't like having ads forced on me.
So use 30 second skip.
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Until the stupid blipverts interfere with (or outright disable) this
functionality.
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The image in and of itself is intrusive and inconvenient. Why should I
be forced to put up with it?
Intrusive *maybe* you could make an argument for - but how is it
inconvenient? Nothing at all changes about how you use the box. If
you're alread FF'ing through the ads, you still do. Now instead of
just a blipvert on the screen you have a blipvert with a static pop-up
in the corner.
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And that static pop-up won't interfere with the ability to skip and/or
FF? It won't demand attention every time it appears (i.e. putting the
TiVo on "halt" until you do something, like a dialog box does with most
computer OS'es)? If that's so, then it's not so bad.
Yet.
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"No urban night is like the night [in NYC]...here is our poetry, for we have
pulled down the stars to our will."
- Ezra Pound, poet and critic, 9/18/1912, reflecting on New York City |
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Rich Carreiro
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:31 am Post subject:
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Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> writes:
| Quote: | I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on
these ads, but all they're talking about is putting up
an image while you're FFWing over certain ads. So what?
The image in and of itself is intrusive and inconvenient. Why should I
be forced to put up with it?
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Before I bother to go any further -- are you one of the people
who rants about the starred items on the main menu?
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Keeper of the Purple Twil
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:31 am Post subject:
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In article <m33bz8qk99.fsf@animato.home.lan>, Rich Carreiro
<rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:
| Quote: | Keeper of the Purple Twilight <no@spam.invalid> writes:
I could see if they were disabling FFW or 30-sec-skip on
these ads, but all they're talking about is putting up
an image while you're FFWing over certain ads. So what?
The image in and of itself is intrusive and inconvenient. Why should I
be forced to put up with it?
Before I bother to go any further -- are you one of the people
who rants about the starred items on the main menu?
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No.
At least you don't have to watch those.
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"No urban night is like the night [in NYC]...here is our poetry, for we have
pulled down the stars to our will."
- Ezra Pound, poet and critic, 9/18/1912, reflecting on New York City |
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