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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

"Mark M" <mark@onworldsedge.com> wrote in message
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I use two SATA 10,000 RPM "Raptor" drives, not in RAID, and
they make my system noticeably faster than it was with my old 7200

Interesting. I use WD JB series EIDE drives and the benchmarks from
storagereview.com only show about a 10% increase in hd performance with
the
Raptors. And since I know that users can't even perceive a 10% increase in
overall performance, I'm surprised you can tell with just a 10% increase
in
hd performance alone. That's the main reason I haven't upgraded my drives.
Still debating on putting two of the Raptors in a RAID 0 config for the
OS.



I don't know how they came up with the 10% figure, or how
you "know that users can't even perceive a 10% increase in
overall performance" - but - things load noticeably faster and in
fact some slight pauses have disappeared, altogether. Now I
don't have any idea how much of an improvement there may
be in benchmarks, or if the ones you reference were comparing
the 10,000 rpm drives, but it was certainly perceivable when I
switched to these drives.

Luck;
Ken

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Richard Crowley
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

SATA is just the next step in mass storage interconnection
technology progress. In the long run it is cheaper than parallel
ATA which in turn was cheaper than its predecessors. After
SATA there will likely be optical of some kind.

That SATA might be slightly faster/slower than current ATA
implementations is transient and incidental. In a few years,
everything will be SATA and ATA drives will be antiques.

This may be a consideration for those of us intending to use
hard drives as archival storage (in lieu of tape, optical disc,
etc.)
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Mark M
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

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I don't know how they came up with the 10% figure, or how

Benchmark testing, specifically I/O ops per second, and the site is quite
unbiased.

Quote:
you "know that users can't even perceive a 10% increase in
overall performance" - but - things load noticeably faster and in

Well known fact in performance and tuning technology.

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the 10,000 rpm drives, but it was certainly perceivable when I
switched to these drives.

They were comparing your exact model drive with 70-80 other hd's from 5400
to 15k including EIDE, SATA and SCSI.
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Owamanga
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:32:06 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:

Quote:
SATA is just the next step in mass storage interconnection
technology progress. In the long run it is cheaper than parallel
ATA which in turn was cheaper than its predecessors. After
SATA there will likely be optical of some kind.

That SATA might be slightly faster/slower than current ATA
implementations is transient and incidental. In a few years,
everything will be SATA and ATA drives will be antiques.

This may be a consideration for those of us intending to use
hard drives as archival storage (in lieu of tape, optical disc,
etc.)

They are also a lot easier to install. No more wide ribbon cable to
crush & stretch through frame cutouts. Case airflow is also improved.

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Owamanga!
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Chris Phillipo
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

In article <_KSdnack4pI1ngbcRVn-2w@giganews.com>, kmaltby@sbcglobal.net
says...
Quote:

I don't know how they came up with the 10% figure, or how
you "know that users can't even perceive a 10% increase in
overall performance" - but - things load noticeably faster and in
fact some slight pauses have disappeared, altogether. Now I
don't have any idea how much of an improvement there may
be in benchmarks, or if the ones you reference were comparing
the 10,000 rpm drives, but it was certainly perceivable when I
switched to these drives.

Luck;
Ken




Your perceived gains depend on what you two guys upgraded from too.
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http://www.ramsays-online.com
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atarileaf
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

All I know is that I can get a new 80 gig SATA drive for $100 Cdn so the
price is right, its a little faster and will have its own channel so
hopefully dropped frames will be a non-issue with this drive.
Cheers
atarileaf


Mark M <mark@onworldsedge.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I don't know how they came up with the 10% figure, or how

Benchmark testing, specifically I/O ops per second, and the site is quite
unbiased.

you "know that users can't even perceive a 10% increase in
overall performance" - but - things load noticeably faster and in

Well known fact in performance and tuning technology.

the 10,000 rpm drives, but it was certainly perceivable when I
switched to these drives.

They were comparing your exact model drive with 70-80 other hd's from 5400
to 15k including EIDE, SATA and SCSI.


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JT
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: SATA drives worth getting for video editing? Reply with quote

"atarileaf" <hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

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I'm getting a new motherboard soon which will support SATA. My question is,
is it worth getting one of these faster drives for video editing purposes?
Is it a little faster than a 7200 ata drive or a lot faster? I'm going to
get a second drive to use strickly for video projects and wanted to know if
SATA is worth the extra expense or just get a second 7200 drive?

Cheers


Go here http://storagereview.com/comparison.html and select WB99
Disk/Read Transfer Rate - Begin or - End from the dropdown list.
Disk/Write would be even better, but isn't offered. Pick a drive as
high up the list as your budget permits. The Seagate 200GB's are
reasonable choices, easily had at $100 without rebate, often at
Outpost for $70 after a rebate.
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