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MegaZone
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject:
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Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | Yeah, but if you have digital cable (which is all you need CableCARD
for) today, you probably have a cable box - and most digital cable
boxes do bidirectional communication already. So it is really status
quo.
CableCARD requires a cable box?
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No, but the vast majority of people with digital cable don't have
CableCARD, they have a cable box.
So, yes, the way things went is - cable box was state of the art, and
does bidirectional. Then CC1.0 became state of the art, but it
doesn't do bidirectional, making it something of a step backwards in
features from the cable box. Next CC2.0 will be the state of the art,
and it will bring things back to where the cable box started, and take
it beyond that with multistream and new services.
So CC1.0 may offer more privacy than a cable box or CC2.0, with the
trade off of not having as many features. Most users will take the
features over the privacy, and in a year or so won't have any choice
as CC2.0 will roll out and CC1.0 will be hard to find.
-MZ
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject:
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
| Quote: | But with the box doing it for you, and with the limited number of
hours in a day you have for watching TV, chances are very good that OTA
reception gives you enough programming to cover yourself.
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Well said! With basic cable I still get more than I can ever watch.
Saves a lot of money, too. |
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Mark Lloyd
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:33:25 -0000, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com>
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| Quote: | On 2005-10-24, Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
Notice that you don't say the commercials are quality; you say only that
they're better than the programming around them. The commercials are
still inane.
You REALLY need to slow down and smell the roses, Elmo.
The commercials are roses?
A few are.
Geez, what world do you live in?
Even with a DVR, I still watch those HP photo-morphing
commercials. I thought they were brilliant. There are a
couple of the current Target commercials I like as well. There
used to be some VW ones I watched if I happend to land on one.
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Although there can be a difference between watching it the first time,
and watching it the hundredth time.
--
62 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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Mark Lloyd
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:23:56 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <BF82407F.2C038%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
You REALLY need to slow down and smell the roses, Elmo.
The commercials are roses?
Geez, what world do you live in?
A world a lot less anal than yours, I guess.
Obsessive compulsive behavior and a Type A personality leads to early
medical problems. Like I said, and another poster pointed out: Lighten up
and live well.
Accept the commercials when the technology allows me never to even see
them?
Is that what you mean by "lighten up"?
There's an old saying: if you're not outraged, you're not paying
attention. It's never been truer than in these modern times.
Besides, if it were not for those commercials, your cable bill would be
three times what it is.
You mean, if it weren't for the masses of sheeple who don't buy into the
simple technology that allows them to ignore those commercials.
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And if they did, advertisers would find some way to defeat it (maybe
by manipulating the government, as they did with "copy protection")
that would be ever worse than the commercials we have now.
| Quote: | Yeah, they're useful for some things.
As an aside, I remember when I was a kid and would go to the movie theatre
(yes the WERE 'theatres' once upon a time), the manager had a table set up
for patrons to sign a petition to prevent "Pay Television". He was convinced
that it would be the end of the world if folks had the movie in their homes.
Newsweek (I think) just reported that in the 1950s, 63% of the public
went to see movies. That is now down to 9%.
Maybe that theater manager was right.
Theater owners are fighting back, with "destination" theaters that cost
$20/ticket.
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What would that actually be?
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62 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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Mark Lloyd
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:09:33 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <Kf2dnQ_BuK2ZlcHeRVn-uQ@rogers.com>,
"tim@nocomment.com" <tim@nocomment.com> wrote:
OHMIGOD! I'M BEHIND! I'M BEHIND! I MUST NOT BE BEHIND! I MUST
EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING THE ABSOLUTE MOMENT IT OCCURS! ANYTHING THAT
OCCURRED A FEW MINUTES AGO IS CRAP!
OHMIGOD! I just sat and watched 30 seconds of commercials. I must be
more efficent. I must be more efficent. I hope no one noticed that I sat
there watching a commercial.
Efficiency? Where the hell did that come from?
An intelligent person would rather not watch TV than watch commercials
nowadays. What does that say about those who claim that they *want* to
watch commercials?
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I did have the superbowl on this year, and skipped everything BUT the
commercials.
--
62 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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Mark Lloyd
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 03:28:32 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
(MegaZone) wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
And the loss of privacy that bi-directional involves. A current
advantage of the existing system is that the cable company doesn't get
to find out what you're watching.
Yeah, but if you have digital cable (which is all you need CableCARD
for) today, you probably have a cable box - and most digital cable
boxes do bidirectional communication already. So it is really status
quo.
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CableCARD requires a cable box?
| Quote: | If it can handle 5 channels at the same time, where are those streams
going once those channels are decoded?
In theory you could have one CC2.0 tuner in a DVR that could record 5
channels (streams) at the same time. Or have a multi-room system
where satellite boxes in other rooms could tune a channel different
from the one being watched on the main set, using the tuner in the
main box.
How the 5 streams are used is up to the product designer. Most likely
what we'll see firt is 'dual tuner' boxes which only need one 2.0 card
- today you'd need to rent 2 cards.
-MZ
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62 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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George Kerby
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject:
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On 10/24/05 8:11 PM, in article FCf7f.18505$5e4.7811@tornado.texas.rr.com,
"Peter Kelly" <disco@no-spam.satx.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article <6ICdnZeTjusIh8DeRVn-uQ@rogers.com>,
"tim@nocomment.com" <tim@nocomment.com> wrote:
It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with
the motive of ending the thread.
The difference is, I didn't raise the comparison. He did.
He did without the motive of ending the thread. Therefore, by
definition, thread over.
and yet you keep posting....
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George Kerby
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:44 am Post subject:
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On 10/30/05 4:43 PM, in article 20c9f.242063$o8.16286@twister.auna.com,
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Mark Lloyd
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:53:12 -0500, "Randy S." <rswitt@nospam.com>
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| Quote: | Bill Sharpe wrote:
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
Notice that you don't say the commercials are quality; you say only
that they're better than the programming around them. The commercials
are still inane.
Not all of them. The CapitalOne "What's in your wallet" barbarians are
pretty funny. As are the contented Californina cows. I turn the sound
back on for these.
Mostly, though, I would agree with you.
Bill
The insurance commercial with the kid showing his robot to his parents
in the garage was actually hilarious! I saw it first during an SNL show
and thought it was one of their skits.
Randy S.
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I remember an insurance commercial that showed a girl walking through
a construction site. This was supposed to show that she needed
insurance. I thought that what she needed was a hard hat.
--
46 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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