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Mort Middleman
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject:
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I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
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Phil R.
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:19 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
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http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
You're welcome.
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Jay G.
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:11 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:19:22 GMT, Phil R. wrote:
| Quote: | "Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
news:7n6qo054u4a9rlh0unffcj1dj60c4ofkrd@4ax.com...
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
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While Phil's link is very helpful, I don't think it answers you specific
questions.
Yes, you can set up multiple recording for different dates times and shows.
Also, the DVD recorder will only ever record on the blank space of the
disc. So it won't record over already existing recordings on specific
disc, even if you pull it out and put it back in. If you are using a
rewritable disc, you will have to specifically erase one of the existing
programs on the disc, or possibly the whole disc, before you can reclaim
that used space.
If you're mainly interested in temporarily recording shows and later
erasing them, DVD-RAM offers the most flexibility. However, you may also
want to look into hard-drive based DVRs, or Digital Video Recorders. These
recorders will record shows to a hard-drive, which allows larger storage
capacity and the ability to save and delete shows at will. The only
drawback is that there is no removable media so no real permanent storage.
Another option are DVD Recorders with built-in hard-drives. These give you
the advantage of DVRs in that you can record shows to the hard-drive, but
also allow you to permanently burn stuff to a DVD. Thus you could record
what you want, delete what you don't want later, and burn what you want to
keep. It also has the advantage of allowing you to edit out commercials
before burning to DVD.
-Jay |
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luminos
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:46 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:19:22 GMT, Phil R. wrote:
"Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
news:7n6qo054u4a9rlh0unffcj1dj60c4ofkrd@4ax.com...
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
While Phil's link is very helpful, I don't think it answers you specific
questions.
Yes, you can set up multiple recording for different dates times and
shows.
Also, the DVD recorder will only ever record on the blank space of the
disc. So it won't record over already existing recordings on specific
disc, even if you pull it out and put it back in. If you are using a
rewritable disc, you will have to specifically erase one of the existing
programs on the disc, or possibly the whole disc, before you can reclaim
that used space.
If you're mainly interested in temporarily recording shows and later
erasing them, DVD-RAM offers the most flexibility.
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Yes, however, DVD-RW works well and is much cheaper. |
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Kevin
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:33 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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Mort Middleman <mortmid@att.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
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What I would like to know, if people can answer, is what kind of latency
can I expect to see between when I hit the "Record" button and when video
actually starts getting recorded.
What's nice about a VCR is you can pop a tape into the machine and hit
"Record" and actually be recording, within just a few seconds. Whereas,
on a computer CD/DVD burner at least, it takes a few seconds to spin up
and recognize the disc, plus however long it may take to engage the
record function.
The closer to "instant" the better - so here I'm thinking the more
advanced models would have memory buffering or use hard drives to help with
speed.
Anyone care to share their experience? |
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luminos
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"Kevin" <kevin@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Mort Middleman <mortmid@att.net> wrote:
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
What I would like to know, if people can answer, is what kind of latency
can I expect to see between when I hit the "Record" button and when video
actually starts getting recorded.
What's nice about a VCR is you can pop a tape into the machine and hit
"Record" and actually be recording, within just a few seconds. Whereas,
on a computer CD/DVD burner at least, it takes a few seconds to spin up
and recognize the disc, plus however long it may take to engage the
record function.
The closer to "instant" the better - so here I'm thinking the more
advanced models would have memory buffering or use hard drives to help
with
speed.
Anyone care to share their experience?
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It is not instant on a VCR nor on a stand alone recorder nor a computer.
The latency is about 3 seconds. |
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Mac Breck
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"luminos" <logos1@trip.net> wrote in message
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"Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:19:22 GMT, Phil R. wrote:
"Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
news:7n6qo054u4a9rlh0unffcj1dj60c4ofkrd@4ax.com...
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders.
Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using
rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of
shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple
more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of
shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the
answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs.
Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
While Phil's link is very helpful, I don't think it
answers you specific
questions.
Yes, you can set up multiple recording for different
dates times and
shows.
Also, the DVD recorder will only ever record on the
blank space of the
disc. So it won't record over already existing
recordings on specific
disc, even if you pull it out and put it back in. If
you are using a
rewritable disc, you will have to specifically erase one
of the existing
programs on the disc, or possibly the whole disc, before
you can reclaim
that used space.
If you're mainly interested in temporarily recording
shows and later
erasing them, DVD-RAM offers the most flexibility.
Yes, however, DVD-RW works well and is much cheaper.
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Does DVD-RW allow you to split a recording to the frame, and
then cut out the conventional commercials, after the fact
(say of a timer recorded program)? (not-rhetorical, I'm
asking because I don't know.). DVD-RAM does. 25% of the
space can be recovered that way, and reused for other
programs.
The reusability of DVD-RAM is rated at 100,000 uses. What's
the reusability og DVD-RW.
There's also DVD+RW, isn't there?
--
Mac Breck (KoshN) - from the desktop PC
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http://www.scifi.com/babylon5/
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/1521 (Brimstone) |
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Mort Middleman
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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Thanks very much Jay.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:11:00 -0600, "Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:19:22 GMT, Phil R. wrote:
"Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
news:7n6qo054u4a9rlh0unffcj1dj60c4ofkrd@4ax.com...
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
While Phil's link is very helpful, I don't think it answers you specific
questions.
Yes, you can set up multiple recording for different dates times and shows.
Also, the DVD recorder will only ever record on the blank space of the
disc. So it won't record over already existing recordings on specific
disc, even if you pull it out and put it back in. If you are using a
rewritable disc, you will have to specifically erase one of the existing
programs on the disc, or possibly the whole disc, before you can reclaim
that used space.
If you're mainly interested in temporarily recording shows and later
erasing them, DVD-RAM offers the most flexibility. However, you may also
want to look into hard-drive based DVRs, or Digital Video Recorders. These
recorders will record shows to a hard-drive, which allows larger storage
capacity and the ability to save and delete shows at will. The only
drawback is that there is no removable media so no real permanent storage.
Another option are DVD Recorders with built-in hard-drives. These give you
the advantage of DVRs in that you can record shows to the hard-drive, but
also allow you to permanently burn stuff to a DVD. Thus you could record
what you want, delete what you don't want later, and burn what you want to
keep. It also has the advantage of allowing you to edit out commercials
before burning to DVD.
-Jay |
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luminos
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:57 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"Mac Breck" <macthevorlon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "luminos" <logos1@trip.net> wrote in message
news:10ordl7jh5862c6@news20.forteinc.com...
"Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> wrote in message
news:z3ns425yoak2$.w3byekrxyr8l.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:19:22 GMT, Phil R. wrote:
"Mort Middleman" <mortmid@att.net> wrote in message
news:7n6qo054u4a9rlh0unffcj1dj60c4ofkrd@4ax.com...
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders.
Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using
rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of
shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple
more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of
shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the
answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs.
Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/a/dvdrecfaqintro.htm
While Phil's link is very helpful, I don't think it
answers you specific
questions.
Yes, you can set up multiple recording for different
dates times and
shows.
Also, the DVD recorder will only ever record on the
blank space of the
disc. So it won't record over already existing
recordings on specific
disc, even if you pull it out and put it back in. If
you are using a
rewritable disc, you will have to specifically erase one
of the existing
programs on the disc, or possibly the whole disc, before
you can reclaim
that used space.
If you're mainly interested in temporarily recording
shows and later
erasing them, DVD-RAM offers the most flexibility.
Yes, however, DVD-RW works well and is much cheaper.
Does DVD-RW allow you to split a recording to the frame, and
then cut out the conventional commercials, after the fact
(say of a timer recorded program)? (not-rhetorical, I'm
asking because I don't know.). DVD-RAM does. 25% of the
space can be recovered that way, and reused for other
programs.
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On my Pioneer, the answer is yes. There is also a DVD-RW VR mode that
offers nearly all of the features of DVD-RAM. I like DVD-RAM because access
is faster (it is really a hard sectored format), but the -RW formats have
improved. |
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awknod
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:26 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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Really!!!!!
"luminos" <logos1@trip.net> wrote in message
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"Kevin" <kevin@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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Mort Middleman <mortmid@att.net> wrote:
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
What I would like to know, if people can answer, is what kind of latency
can I expect to see between when I hit the "Record" button and when
video
actually starts getting recorded.
What's nice about a VCR is you can pop a tape into the machine and hit
"Record" and actually be recording, within just a few seconds. Whereas,
on a computer CD/DVD burner at least, it takes a few seconds to spin up
and recognize the disc, plus however long it may take to engage the
record function.
The closer to "instant" the better - so here I'm thinking the more
advanced models would have memory buffering or use hard drives to help
with
speed.
Anyone care to share their experience?
It is not instant on a VCR nor on a stand alone recorder nor a computer.
The latency is about 3 seconds.
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Pug Fugley
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:44 am Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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"Kevin" <kevin@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:cmkfkl$jsi$5@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca...
| Quote: | Mort Middleman <mortmid@att.net> wrote:
I'm thinking of replacing my VCRs with DVD recorders. Is recording TV
shows on DVD as easy as on VCRs? For instance, using rewriteable
disks, can you set up timed recordings for a couple of shows on
Tuesday night, remove the disk, then record a couple more shows on
Friday night without writing over the first group of shows? These
must seem like dumb questions, but I need to know the answers before
investing the dollars necessary to replace five VCRs. Thanks for any
help anyone can offer.
What I would like to know, if people can answer, is what kind of latency
can I expect to see between when I hit the "Record" button and when video
actually starts getting recorded.
What's nice about a VCR is you can pop a tape into the machine and hit
"Record" and actually be recording, within just a few seconds. Whereas,
on a computer CD/DVD burner at least, it takes a few seconds to spin up
and recognize the disc, plus however long it may take to engage the
record function.
The closer to "instant" the better -
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A VCR is anything but instant. It takes at least 3 seconds minimum, some
decks up to 6 seconds. |
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Kevin
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Newbie Questions |
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Pug Fugley <nosir@not.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The closer to "instant" the better -
A VCR is anything but instant. It takes at least 3 seconds minimum, some
decks up to 6 seconds.
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Well, I never said a VCR was "instant", I just said the smaller latency
time, the better.
So, given that a VCR is 3-6 seconds, does a DVD deck take significantly
longer to start recording?
I guess I was spoiled by cassette tape recorders, some of which are pretty
close to "instant", starting to tape within about a second of your pushing
the record button. Then I moved to MiniDisc, where I would hit the button,
wait for the drive to spin up and sync with itself and with the audio
signal, then wait for me to set levels and then start actually recording.
Worth the trade-off for better recording quality, but a bit annoying.
Kevin |
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Mac Breck
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:
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"Kevin" <kevin@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Pug Fugley <nosir@not.com> wrote:
The closer to "instant" the better -
A VCR is anything but instant. It takes at least 3
seconds minimum, some
decks up to 6 seconds.
Well, I never said a VCR was "instant", I just said the
smaller latency
time, the better.
So, given that a VCR is 3-6 seconds, does a DVD deck take
significantly
longer to start recording?
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Panasonic DMR-E30s with Panasonic DVD-RAM (which Circuit
City has packs of 5 for $24.99): 1.85 seconds. (just timed
it)
The DVD-RAM discs are 1 hr on XP, 2 hrs. on SP, 4 hrs. on
LP, and 6 hrs. on EP. There's also FR which allows speeds
in-between XP and EP, to fill the disc with the best quality
that will fit in the space that you have left.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN) - from the desktop PC
-------------------------------
http://www.scifi.com/babylon5/
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/1521 (Brimstone) |
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