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Tom Fermis
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:35 am Post subject:
Why do so many people cut off the end credits? |
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Making movies and TV shows incomplete is a mighty poor tradeoff just to
save 2 MB space on a CD. Or is there another reason for this butchery?
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Larc
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:
Re: Why do so many people cut off the end credits? |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:35:13 GMT, Tom Fermis <tfermis@hotmail.com>
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| Making movies and TV shows incomplete is a mighty poor tradeoff just to
| save 2 MB space on a CD. Or is there another reason for this butchery?
Some end credits go on and on extending to boring to magna boring to
summa boring. I've never been particularly keen on knowing the names
of people who cleaned the portajohns. Although I don't delete any
really valuable credit information, I'd rather see available bits
assigned to the movie than to pet treats for peon egos.
Larc
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Dennis Q. Wilson
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:37 am Post subject:
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The couple of times I've downloaded a TV show I missed the night
before, I wondered about that too. If I wanted to save these shows,
I'd want them complete, credits and all. Long or not, they're still
part of the show. |
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General Kireiko
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:
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Dennis Q. Wilson <DennisQWilson@yahoo.com> wrote:
: The couple of times I've downloaded a TV show I missed the night
: before, I wondered about that too. If I wanted to save these shows,
: I'd want them complete, credits and all. Long or not, they're still
: part of the show.
Even if you can read them. Most current shows have promotions for upcoming
shows (even different ones) and the network which is airing the show
usually squeezes the credits over to the left side of the screen. Most
of the time it is not legible anyway. I don't bother with credits on
TV shows for that reason. Movies is a different matter. Premium cable
stations always show the full credits. Most other outlets show an
abridged version of credits, or an accelerated scroll, or more promos.
I don't bother with these, either.
-Doug
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Christian Link
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Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Why do so many people cut off the end credits? |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:35:13 GMT, Tom Fermis <tfermis@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Making movies and TV shows incomplete is a mighty poor tradeoff just to
save 2 MB space on a CD. Or is there another reason for this butchery?
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The reason is it's mostly a whopping lot more than just two MBytes.
Remember, not only are many credits scrollers quite long, as other people
have already pointed out, it's also that (unless you manually restrict the
bitrate for those parts) scenes like these can be real bandwidth and thus
memory hogs. I mean, very many tiny details plus they're usually very sharp
and have a high contrast - well, even with MPEG's motion compensation that
can be tough to encode.
So, if we're really talking CDs here, your options may be limited to either
get the movie "incomplete" (without the credits), but better quality, or get
the movie "complete", but with worse quality (which could be considered kind
of "incomplete" as well, seeing as you have to drop information, namely
details here).
Personally, I think it's a good compromise to just fade out the movie before
it fades into the credits, as it doesn't look too brutal. Limiting the
bitrate for the credits part may be considered an option as well, but I
don't believe in that: It's the last impression of your work that stays with
the audience, and in the case of badly encoded credits, it's not a really
good one.
But well, to each his own.
Greetings,
Chris. |
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