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TerryG
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVDs Reply with quote

I thought I was getting a good deal. I bought 100 KHypermedia +R DVDs
for $99 and got a +R KHypermedia burner for free at Office Max. When
I burned a video (MPEG2/one hour mode) I couldn't play on the PC's DVD
reader what is on the DVD. It was c. 80 minutes of video and I can
see that c. 40% of the DVD has been written to. The video was taken
from a VCR using a DAC-100 capture device and Movie Maker. I then
used the software that came with the burner to convert the video to
MPEG2 (at least that's what I selected) and write it to DVD.

When I do a properties on the DVD I get zero data written to the DVD
and zero unused bytes. When I click on the DVD burner drive in
Windows Explorer I'm told to insert a disk, even though there is one
in the drive.

Can anyone tell me what I'm running into? I guess my next step will
be to simply copy an existing DVD to see what I get. Is that a fair
test or will I run into copy protection? I have written to CDs using
this drive with no problem.

Also, I just noticed that my Panasonic DVD/VCR combo plays back
DVD-RAM Plaback,
DVD-R Playback, CD-R/RW Playback, JPEG Playback, and MP3 Playback. I
don't see +R. Does that mean I have an incompatibility between my +R
burner and my -R player? It sure pays to do your homework before you
plunk your money down, doesn't it?

Thanks for any and all comments (please be gentle - I'm new at this).

Terry

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TerryG
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

I just generated an exact copy of a commercial DVD using the
KHypermedia DVD burner and it worked perfectly. So where does that
leave me? I've proved that the burner CAN generate a viewable DVD.
But I can't seem to burn a DVD using the InterVideo Win DVD burner
software that came with the burner. I went thru all the steps:
capture, edit, author, and make movie. Everything seemed to be
working. And this time, when I go into Windows Explorer, I can see
two directories: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. And VIDEO_TS contains files
like VIDEO_TS.BUP and VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.VOB and VTS_01_1.VOB
which is over a gig. in size.

But why can't I play the DVD on either the burner I used to create it
or the DVD reader?

I sure would appreciate any help you can give me.

Thanks.

Terry




ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in message news:<7322e1ab.0410110623.3e507ecb@posting.google.com>...
Quote:
I thought I was getting a good deal. I bought 100 KHypermedia +R DVDs
for $99 and got a +R KHypermedia burner for free at Office Max. When
I burned a video (MPEG2/one hour mode) I couldn't play on the PC's DVD
reader what is on the DVD. It was c. 80 minutes of video and I can
see that c. 40% of the DVD has been written to. The video was taken
from a VCR using a DAC-100 capture device and Movie Maker. I then
used the software that came with the burner to convert the video to
MPEG2 (at least that's what I selected) and write it to DVD.

When I do a properties on the DVD I get zero data written to the DVD
and zero unused bytes. When I click on the DVD burner drive in
Windows Explorer I'm told to insert a disk, even though there is one
in the drive.

Can anyone tell me what I'm running into? I guess my next step will
be to simply copy an existing DVD to see what I get. Is that a fair
test or will I run into copy protection? I have written to CDs using
this drive with no problem.

Also, I just noticed that my Panasonic DVD/VCR combo plays back
DVD-RAM Plaback,
DVD-R Playback, CD-R/RW Playback, JPEG Playback, and MP3 Playback. I
don't see +R. Does that mean I have an incompatibility between my +R
burner and my -R player? It sure pays to do your homework before you
plunk your money down, doesn't it?

Thanks for any and all comments (please be gentle - I'm new at this).

Terry
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TerryG
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

Did you ever get the impression that you were either having a brain
burp or your PC was playing tricks on you? Last night after posting
my 2nd article to this thread, I did some more investigating. Going
into Windows Explorer, I began clicking on various files on the DVD.
And wouldn't you know, I launched Windows Media Player and viewed the
movie I had burned onto the DVD. I then loaded the DVD into the
Panasonic DVD player and could view the movie on the TV.

I then loaded the DVDs I had burned previously into the DVD player and
could view those movies too. I have no idea what happened. I could
not even see the files in Windows Explorer the previous night. It's
as if they were hidden files. What I have no idea what I did to
suddenly be able to see the files names and launch the video. Bottom
line: my problem seems to be resolved. And there is no
incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player - at least none
that I can see.

I still have one (perhaps dumb question). I had been told that
commercial DVDs have MPEG files on them. Yet as you can see from my
2nd post, none of the files on the DVD that I can now view on the DVD
player is an MPEG. I also looked at the files names on the commercial
DVD and none of them was MPEG either. What am I missing?

Thanks.

Terry


ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in message news:<7322e1ab.0410110623.3e507ecb@posting.google.com>...
Quote:
I thought I was getting a good deal. I bought 100 KHypermedia +R DVDs
for $99 and got a +R KHypermedia burner for free at Office Max. When
I burned a video (MPEG2/one hour mode) I couldn't play on the PC's DVD
reader what is on the DVD. It was c. 80 minutes of video and I can
see that c. 40% of the DVD has been written to. The video was taken
from a VCR using a DAC-100 capture device and Movie Maker. I then
used the software that came with the burner to convert the video to
MPEG2 (at least that's what I selected) and write it to DVD.

When I do a properties on the DVD I get zero data written to the DVD
and zero unused bytes. When I click on the DVD burner drive in
Windows Explorer I'm told to insert a disk, even though there is one
in the drive.

Can anyone tell me what I'm running into? I guess my next step will
be to simply copy an existing DVD to see what I get. Is that a fair
test or will I run into copy protection? I have written to CDs using
this drive with no problem.

Also, I just noticed that my Panasonic DVD/VCR combo plays back
DVD-RAM Plaback,
DVD-R Playback, CD-R/RW Playback, JPEG Playback, and MP3 Playback. I
don't see +R. Does that mean I have an incompatibility between my +R
burner and my -R player? It sure pays to do your homework before you
plunk your money down, doesn't it?

Thanks for any and all comments (please be gentle - I'm new at this).

Terry
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Biz
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7322e1ab.0410120431.6ff8bbd@posting.google.com...
Quote:
Did you ever get the impression that you were either having a brain
burp or your PC was playing tricks on you? Last night after posting
my 2nd article to this thread, I did some more investigating. Going
into Windows Explorer, I began clicking on various files on the DVD.
And wouldn't you know, I launched Windows Media Player and viewed the
movie I had burned onto the DVD. I then loaded the DVD into the
Panasonic DVD player and could view the movie on the TV.

I then loaded the DVDs I had burned previously into the DVD player and
could view those movies too. I have no idea what happened. I could
not even see the files in Windows Explorer the previous night. It's
as if they were hidden files. What I have no idea what I did to
suddenly be able to see the files names and launch the video. Bottom
line: my problem seems to be resolved. And there is no
incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player - at least none
that I can see.

I still have one (perhaps dumb question). I had been told that
commercial DVDs have MPEG files on them. Yet as you can see from my
2nd post, none of the files on the DVD that I can now view on the DVD
player is an MPEG. I also looked at the files names on the commercial
DVD and none of them was MPEG either. What am I missing?

Thanks.

Terry

If you read up on the DVD structure at http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html

, you will find that DVD videos consist of VOBs, ifos, and bups. Contained
in each VOB is mpeg1/2 video, subtitles if applicable, and the audio. The
VOB is a container similar to what avi is.
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Gene E. Bloch
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in
news:7322e1ab.0410120431.6ff8bbd@posting.google.com:

Quote:
Did you ever get the impression that you were either having a
brain burp or your PC was playing tricks on you? Last night after
posting my 2nd article to this thread, I did some more
investigating. Going into Windows Explorer, I began clicking on
various files on the DVD. And wouldn't you know, I launched
Windows Media Player and viewed the movie I had burned onto the
DVD. I then loaded the DVD into the Panasonic DVD player and
could view the movie on the TV.

I then loaded the DVDs I had burned previously into the DVD player
and could view those movies too. I have no idea what happened. I
could not even see the files in Windows Explorer the previous
night. It's as if they were hidden files. What I have no idea
what I did to suddenly be able to see the files names and launch
the video. Bottom line: my problem seems to be resolved. And
there is no incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player
- at least none that I can see.

I still have one (perhaps dumb question). I had been told that
commercial DVDs have MPEG files on them. Yet as you can see from
my 2nd post, none of the files on the DVD that I can now view on
the DVD player is an MPEG. I also looked at the files names on
the commercial DVD and none of them was MPEG either. What am I
missing?

Thanks.

Terry


ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in message
news:<7322e1ab.0410110623.3e507ecb@posting.google.com>...
I thought I was getting a good deal. I bought 100 KHypermedia +R
DVDs for $99 and got a +R KHypermedia burner for free at Office
Max. When I burned a video (MPEG2/one hour mode) I couldn't play
on the PC's DVD reader what is on the DVD. It was c. 80 minutes
of video and I can see that c. 40% of the DVD has been written
to. The video was taken from a VCR using a DAC-100 capture
device and Movie Maker. I then used the software that came with
the burner to convert the video to MPEG2 (at least that's what I
selected) and write it to DVD.

When I do a properties on the DVD I get zero data written to the
DVD and zero unused bytes. When I click on the DVD burner drive
in Windows Explorer I'm told to insert a disk, even though there
is one in the drive.

Can anyone tell me what I'm running into? I guess my next step
will be to simply copy an existing DVD to see what I get. Is
that a fair test or will I run into copy protection? I have
written to CDs using this drive with no problem.

Also, I just noticed that my Panasonic DVD/VCR combo plays back
DVD-RAM Plaback,
DVD-R Playback, CD-R/RW Playback, JPEG Playback, and MP3
Playback. I don't see +R. Does that mean I have an
incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player? It sure
pays to do your homework before you plunk your money down,
doesn't it?

Thanks for any and all comments (please be gentle - I'm new at
this).

Terry

I suggest you scan for a poltergeist in your computer or your house.

You may need to hire an exorcist. If so, don't skimp - the more
affordable ones don't do as good a job - just like DVD media.

Gino

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) phone 650.966.8481
Call me letters find me at domain blochg whose dot is com
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TerryG
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

"Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message news:<Xns9580A5E22237EAstrolabe@63.240.76.16>...
Quote:
ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in
news:7322e1ab.0410120431.6ff8bbd@posting.google.com:

Did you ever get the impression that you were either having a
brain burp or your PC was playing tricks on you? Last night after
posting my 2nd article to this thread, I did some more
investigating. Going into Windows Explorer, I began clicking on
various files on the DVD. And wouldn't you know, I launched
Windows Media Player and viewed the movie I had burned onto the
DVD. I then loaded the DVD into the Panasonic DVD player and
could view the movie on the TV.

I then loaded the DVDs I had burned previously into the DVD player
and could view those movies too. I have no idea what happened. I
could not even see the files in Windows Explorer the previous
night. It's as if they were hidden files. What I have no idea
what I did to suddenly be able to see the files names and launch
the video. Bottom line: my problem seems to be resolved. And
there is no incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player
- at least none that I can see.

I still have one (perhaps dumb question). I had been told that
commercial DVDs have MPEG files on them. Yet as you can see from
my 2nd post, none of the files on the DVD that I can now view on
the DVD player is an MPEG. I also looked at the files names on
the commercial DVD and none of them was MPEG either. What am I
missing?

Thanks.

Terry


ritpg@hotmail.com (TerryG) wrote in message
news:<7322e1ab.0410110623.3e507ecb@posting.google.com>...
I thought I was getting a good deal. I bought 100 KHypermedia +R
DVDs for $99 and got a +R KHypermedia burner for free at Office
Max. When I burned a video (MPEG2/one hour mode) I couldn't play
on the PC's DVD reader what is on the DVD. It was c. 80 minutes
of video and I can see that c. 40% of the DVD has been written
to. The video was taken from a VCR using a DAC-100 capture
device and Movie Maker. I then used the software that came with
the burner to convert the video to MPEG2 (at least that's what I
selected) and write it to DVD.

When I do a properties on the DVD I get zero data written to the
DVD and zero unused bytes. When I click on the DVD burner drive
in Windows Explorer I'm told to insert a disk, even though there
is one in the drive.

Can anyone tell me what I'm running into? I guess my next step
will be to simply copy an existing DVD to see what I get. Is
that a fair test or will I run into copy protection? I have
written to CDs using this drive with no problem.

Also, I just noticed that my Panasonic DVD/VCR combo plays back
DVD-RAM Plaback,
DVD-R Playback, CD-R/RW Playback, JPEG Playback, and MP3
Playback. I don't see +R. Does that mean I have an
incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player? It sure
pays to do your homework before you plunk your money down,
doesn't it?

Thanks for any and all comments (please be gentle - I'm new at
this).

Terry

I suggest you scan for a poltergeist in your computer or your house.

You may need to hire an exorcist. If so, don't skimp - the more
affordable ones don't do as good a job - just like DVD media.

Gino

Point taken. My wife, believe it or not, tells me the same thing:
Stop doing things on the cheap. Thanks for the help.
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TerryG
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Seeming Problem With KHypermedia +R DVD Burner/Blank DVD Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback. I looked at the FAQ. I'm sure the info is
in there some where. I work for a technology company. While I
flipped my last bit several years ago, there are many here who produce
pretty sophisticated software. We do not, as a rule, get into video.
Some of us are pursuing this more as an avocation. I know of only one
person here who has been able to answer my questions on the "layering"
of DVD format: e.g., +R/-R vs MPEG/AVI. I have searched the Internet
for a DVD format primer without success. And I'm not the only one.
That surprises me. I guess this just needs to come with time.

"Biz" <biznospam@notatt.net> wrote in message news:<XmTad.535598$OB3.496492@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
Quote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7322e1ab.0410120431.6ff8bbd@posting.google.com...
Did you ever get the impression that you were either having a brain
burp or your PC was playing tricks on you? Last night after posting
my 2nd article to this thread, I did some more investigating. Going
into Windows Explorer, I began clicking on various files on the DVD.
And wouldn't you know, I launched Windows Media Player and viewed the
movie I had burned onto the DVD. I then loaded the DVD into the
Panasonic DVD player and could view the movie on the TV.

I then loaded the DVDs I had burned previously into the DVD player and
could view those movies too. I have no idea what happened. I could
not even see the files in Windows Explorer the previous night. It's
as if they were hidden files. What I have no idea what I did to
suddenly be able to see the files names and launch the video. Bottom
line: my problem seems to be resolved. And there is no
incompatibility between my +R burner and my -R player - at least none
that I can see.

I still have one (perhaps dumb question). I had been told that
commercial DVDs have MPEG files on them. Yet as you can see from my
2nd post, none of the files on the DVD that I can now view on the DVD
player is an MPEG. I also looked at the files names on the commercial
DVD and none of them was MPEG either. What am I missing?

Thanks.

Terry

If you read up on the DVD structure at http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
, you will find that DVD videos consist of VOBs, ifos, and bups. Contained
in each VOB is mpeg1/2 video, subtitles if applicable, and the audio. The
VOB is a container similar to what avi is.
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