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One-Shot Scot
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:
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A DVD of the Christmas-themed movie "Noel" carries warnings that the
movie must be used immediately after opening, because it has been
recorded on a "disposable" disc, in this product shot made Thursday,
Nov. 11, 2004.
Disposable DVDs look and play like normal DVDs, except that their
playable surface is dark red. Each disc contains a chemical time-bomb
that begins ticking once it's exposed to air. Typically, after 48 hours,
the disc turns darker, becoming so opaque that a DVD player's laser can
no longer can read it.
The technology's backers see it as an alternative for video rental
stores and Netflix-type mail-based subscription services. After the
movie is watched, the consumer tosses it into the trash, eliminating
late fees and the cost of return mail but creating a potentially large
new source of trash.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=249081
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Jon Purkey
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:00 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:33:38 -0800, "One-Shot Scot" <SonOf@Bitch.com>
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| Quote: | http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=249081
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From the article:
"(Discs can live as little as one hour or as long as 60 hours.)"
So that means the DVD could self-destruct before the movie has even
finished? I suppose then you would have to buy a second one to see the
rest of the movie? :)
I'd probably copy it immediately to my computer and then watch it as
often as I wanted. Or just spend the extra $$ for the regular DVD. Or
watch it on the Moon...
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-Jon Purkey - <jonpurkey@aol.com)
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LASERandDVDfan
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:00 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Typically, after 48 hours,
the disc turns darker, becoming so opaque that a DVD player's laser can
no longer can read it.
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One concern could be that the 48 hour window is an approximation.
Actual time to failure will vary not only with how the disc deteriorates, but
also how different players will handle a disc that is decaying. Not all DVD
players are made equal and some may quit working with the disc several hours
before the intended expiration.
| Quote: | The technology's backers see it as an alternative for video rental
stores and Netflix-type mail-based subscription services.
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My concern about this point is that it ends up limiting Flexplay releases only
to mainstream hits, ignoring other interesting films. This is where rental
outlets and Netflix has an edge over Flexplay. - Reinhart |
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Richard C.
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:00 am Post subject:
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"One-Shot Scot" <SonOf@Bitch.com> wrote in message
news:F--dnQL30O90kQvcRVn-gw@inreach.com...
And just what happens if it "destructs" while it is in the player and
playing? |
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Invid Fan
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:00 am Post subject:
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In article <4197aec7$0$31260$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>, Richard
C. <post-age@spamcop.net> wrote:
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"One-Shot Scot" <SonOf@Bitch.com> wrote in message
news:F--dnQL30O90kQvcRVn-gw@inreach.com...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=249081
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And just what happens if it "destructs" while it is in the player and
playing?
You're out of luck. In a perfect world, they'd be able to control the |
decay somewhat and have it happen progressivly. For example, if it took
two hours for a dvd to be deleted, starting with the first tracks,
anyone who is able to start watching a film would be able to finish it
unless they paused it for awhile.
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Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS |
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Del March
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:00 am Post subject:
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<< You're out of luck. In a perfect world, they'd be able to control the
decay somewhat and have it happen progressivly. For example, if it took
two hours for a dvd to be deleted, starting with the first tracks,
anyone who is able to start watching a film would be able to finish it
unless they paused it for awhile. >><BR><BR>
It would be cool if the decay didn't start until the disk was exposed to a
laser, thus guaranteeing at least one complete viewing. |
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Pug Fugley
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:46 am Post subject:
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"Del March" <delmarch@aol.comBITEME> wrote in message
news:20041114173300.21925.00000653@mb-m06.aol.com...
| Quote: | You're out of luck. In a perfect world, they'd be able to control the
decay somewhat and have it happen progressivly. For example, if it took
two hours for a dvd to be deleted, starting with the first tracks,
anyone who is able to start watching a film would be able to finish it
unless they paused it for awhile. >><BR><BR
It would be cool if the decay didn't start until the disk was exposed to a
laser, thus guaranteeing at least one complete viewing.
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....or one good copy, allowing unlimited viewing at any time :) |
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One-Shot Scot
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:53 am Post subject:
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"LASERandDVDfan" <laseranddvdfan@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113201258.06323.00000343@mb-m26.aol.com...
| Quote: | Typically, after 48 hours,
the disc turns darker, becoming so opaque that a DVD player's laser can
no longer can read it.
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<<One concern could be that the 48 hour window is an approximation.>>
<<Actual time to failure will vary not only with how the disc
deteriorates, but also how different players will handle a disc that is
decaying. Not all DVD players are made equal and some may quit working
with the disc several hours before the intended expiration.>>
| Quote: | The technology's backers see it as an alternative for video rental
stores and Netflix-type mail-based subscription services.
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<<My concern about this point is that it ends up limiting Flexplay
releases only to mainstream hits, ignoring other interesting films.
This is where rental outlets and Netflix has an edge over Flexplay. -
Reinhart>>
Apparently, the disk turns from a translucent red to an impenetrable
black. During the final hours of disk decay, a player might be able to
read parts of the disk and not others. And of course, some players will
be able to compensate for the missing information better than others.
My concern about this format is that it will consist mainly of exclusive
titles --- such as _Noel. |
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Mike Kohary
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:00 am Post subject:
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One-Shot Scot wrote:
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My concern about this format is that it will consist mainly of
exclusive titles --- such as _Noel.
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It's notable that this film is actually a current theatrical release, and
the release on Flexplay is concurrent. In 6 months time, I think we can
assume this title will see a regular, conventional DVD release.
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grant kinsley
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:53:40 -0800, "One-Shot Scot" <SonOf@Bitch.com>
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| Quote: | "LASERandDVDfan" <laseranddvdfan@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113201258.06323.00000343@mb-m26.aol.com...
Typically, after 48 hours,
the disc turns darker, becoming so opaque that a DVD player's laser can
no longer can read it.
One concern could be that the 48 hour window is an approximation.
Actual time to failure will vary not only with how the disc
deteriorates, but also how different players will handle a disc that is
decaying. Not all DVD players are made equal and some may quit working
with the disc several hours before the intended expiration.
The technology's backers see it as an alternative for video rental
stores and Netflix-type mail-based subscription services.
My concern about this point is that it ends up limiting Flexplay
releases only to mainstream hits, ignoring other interesting films.
This is where rental outlets and Netflix has an edge over Flexplay. -
Reinhart
Apparently, the disk turns from a translucent red to an impenetrable
black. During the final hours of disk decay, a player might be able to
read parts of the disk and not others. And of course, some players will
be able to compensate for the missing information better than others.
My concern about this format is that it will consist mainly of exclusive
titles --- such as _Noel.
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I suspect, actually, that Noel will become available later as a
regular DVD. The problem is that Noel was not picked up by a
distributor in N.America, therefore the Flexplay discs are the
equivalent of it's theatrical release. to be followed down the road by
a regular DVD release.
Personally I think it's silly, but that seems to be the logic.
G
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Dick Sidbury
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:
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grant kinsley wrote:
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I suspect, actually, that Noel will become available later as a
regular DVD. The problem is that Noel was not picked up by a
distributor in N.America, therefore the Flexplay discs are the
equivalent of it's theatrical release. to be followed down the road by
a regular DVD release.
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Ebert and Roeper reviewed Noel this week. It apparently is getting a US
theatrical release and the diposable at about the same time. Also
according to them it will get a TV release (TNT??) very soon after that
(a few weeks). And eventually a regular DVD release.
dick
-- oh and for those of you who are interested, two thumbs down. |
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Derek Janssen
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Self-Destructing DVD: Picture of Disc & Package. |
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Dick Sidbury wrote:
| Quote: | I suspect, actually, that Noel will become available later as a
regular DVD. The problem is that Noel was not picked up by a
distributor in N.America, therefore the Flexplay discs are the
equivalent of it's theatrical release. to be followed down the road by
a regular DVD release.
Ebert and Roeper reviewed Noel this week. It apparently is getting a US
theatrical release and the diposable at about the same time. Also
according to them it will get a TV release (TNT??) very soon after that
(a few weeks). And eventually a regular DVD release.
-- oh and for those of you who are interested, two thumbs down.
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http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041111/REVIEWS/41103004/1023
"Only a cynic could dislike this movie, which may be why I disliked it.
I can be sentimental under the right circumstances, but the movie is
such a calculating tearjerker that it played like a challenge to me.
There's a point at which the plot crosses an invisible line, becoming so
preposterous that it's no longer moving and is just plain weird."
Derek Janssen (so, they're putting it on special experimental disk
because nobody wants it?--O-kayyyy.....)
djanss@charter.net |
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