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1,2,3 and to the 4ohm
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:34 am Post subject:
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Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs can be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms to each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow the subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
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Tony F
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject:
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Do the subs have dual 4-ohm voice coils? If the amp is truly stable to 1
ohm, why don't you wire the subs in parallel for a 1-ohm load? Mind you, I
know nothing about that amp in particular, but DEI makes some good amps and
if it's 1-ohm stable...
Anyone else?
Tony
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| Quote: | Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs can be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms to each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow the subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Wiring options |
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1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to
wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs can be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms to
each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow the
subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
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If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition. |
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MZ
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition.
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Please do not take this troll's advice. |
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AntiSpammer
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:
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1,2,3 and to the 4ohm
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:18 am Post subject:
Re: Wiring options |
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mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | 1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to
wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs can
be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the
most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms to
each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow the
subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to
come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out
soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition.
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I'm not trying to run 1400 watts, i just want to maximize the power
that the amp can produce, 600rms/1200max, and if i run it at 2Ohms i
would be getting 800TOTAL watts and the subs can handle up to 1400
watts, thats why i would like to see if there is a way to wire DUAL
4OHM subs and make the amp see a 1Ohm load so i can get the max power
out of it, and of course without blowing the whole thing up in the
process. Also i have another question, the amp has 2 60amp fuses on it,
i was wondering if i should get a 60 or 70 amp fuse for the battery.
Thanks again! |
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MOSFET
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:58 am Post subject:
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lol
You crack me up, MZ:
"Please do not take this Troll's advice"
"Please do not respond to my posts"
MOSFET |
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:11 am Post subject:
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| mmdir2.. must die, and i volunteer to be the eradicator |
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:
Re: Wiring options |
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1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
| Quote: | mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to
wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs
can
be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the
most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms
to
each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so
any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow
the
subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to
come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that
you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out
soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition.
I'm not trying to run 1400 watts, i just want to maximize the power
that the amp can produce, 600rms/1200max, and if i run it at 2Ohms i
would be getting 800TOTAL watts and the subs can handle up to 1400
watts, thats why i would like to see if there is a way to wire DUAL
4OHM subs and make the amp see a 1Ohm load so i can get the max power
out of it, and of course without blowing the whole thing up in the
process. Also i have another question, the amp has 2 60amp fuses on
it,
i was wondering if i should get a 60 or 70 amp fuse for the battery.
Thanks again!
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Are you so ignorant on electrornic stuff? Fuse has nothing to do with
power delivery. Fuse is just a protection wire in order to protect the
device. YOu put the high rating fuse you defintely going to blow the
device. WARNING: NEVER PUT THE HIGHER RATING FUSE! |
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KicRocs
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:35 am Post subject:
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OK, Im assuming you have 2 subs that are dual 4ohm voice coils. On th
first sub wire the two positive together. Then wire the two negative
together. The sub now see's half the load which is now 2ohms. Do th
same thing to the second sub. Now connect the positive wire from th
first sub to the second sub positive. Now connect the negative the sam
way. Now your subs see 1ohm
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MOSFET
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:48 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Are you so ignorant on electrornic stuff? Fuse has nothing to do with
power delivery. Fuse is just a protection wire in order to protect the
device. YOu put the high rating fuse you defintely going to blow the
device. WARNING: NEVER PUT THE HIGHER RATING FUSE!
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Mmdir2002, I would refrain from calling anyone ignorant. Again, the irony
here of YOU wondering if someone else is ignorant on "electronic stuff" is
just too much to bare.
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Scott Gardner
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:40 am Post subject:
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On 1 Mar 2005 11:18:34 -0800, "1,2,3 and to the 4ohm"
<main_man2k1@hotmail.com> wrote:
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mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way to
wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs can
be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the
most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle 1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms to
each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow the
subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to
come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out
soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition.
I'm not trying to run 1400 watts, i just want to maximize the power
that the amp can produce, 600rms/1200max, and if i run it at 2Ohms i
would be getting 800TOTAL watts and the subs can handle up to 1400
watts, thats why i would like to see if there is a way to wire DUAL
4OHM subs and make the amp see a 1Ohm load so i can get the max power
out of it, and of course without blowing the whole thing up in the
process. Also i have another question, the amp has 2 60amp fuses on it,
i was wondering if i should get a 60 or 70 amp fuse for the battery.
Thanks again!
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Actually, if you have two 60-amp fuses in the amplifier, I would use
at least a 120-amp fuse near the battery. The size of the fuse near
the battery doesn't have anything to do with protecting the amplifier
- it's just to protect the wiring. In case of excessive current, as
long as the fuse near the battery blows before the main power wire
becomes damaged, it's done its job. If you pick a battery fuse that's
too small, like 60- or 70-amps, you may end up repeatedly blowing the
battery fuse, just because of the current requirements of the amp.
Scott Gardner |
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Tony F
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:35 am Post subject:
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1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote: "thats why i would like to see if there is a
way to wire DUAL 4OHM subs and make the amp see a 1Ohm load"
Yes, there is. See here: http://www.bcae1.com
Go to #58, "Series/Parallel Impedance" and there are multiple examples to
choose from. In your case, the specific example you need to follow is how
to wire two speakers with dual 2 ohm voice coils to get a 1/2 ohm load.
Same setup you need to use, just differnent values.
Tony
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:32 am Post subject:
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Scott Gardner wrote:
| Quote: | On 1 Mar 2005 11:18:34 -0800, "1,2,3 and to the 4ohm"
main_man2k1@hotmail.com> wrote:
mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
1,2,3 and to the 4ohm wrote:
Hello, i just got a new syatem and am not sure on the best way
to
wire
it. I have the DEI 600D and 2 Audiobahn AW1200Q subs. The subs
can
be
ran down to 2ohms but the amp is 1ohm stable. I want to get the
most
amount of power out of it b/c the subs can supposedly handle
1400
watts, if im only running a 2ohm load that would give me 200rms
to
each
sub, right? Now the amp is internally paralelled or whatever so
any
help on this would be great because i really dont want to blow
the
subs
or the amp, i hear these amps are really good and really hard to
come
by so i dont want to lose that for sure. Thanks
If you wanna the noise around 1400 watts, it's good chance that
you
might
destory your amp or sub or both. There is no way you can maintain
amp around 1400 watts. It will be neither sub or amp blowing out
soon.
1400 watts is a monsterous noise that you might awake up the whole
neighbor! The solution is keep the noise down. You do not have
to join the street booming competition.
I'm not trying to run 1400 watts, i just want to maximize the power
that the amp can produce, 600rms/1200max, and if i run it at 2Ohms i
would be getting 800TOTAL watts and the subs can handle up to 1400
watts, thats why i would like to see if there is a way to wire DUAL
4OHM subs and make the amp see a 1Ohm load so i can get the max
power
out of it, and of course without blowing the whole thing up in the
process. Also i have another question, the amp has 2 60amp fuses on
it,
i was wondering if i should get a 60 or 70 amp fuse for the battery.
Thanks again!
Actually, if you have two 60-amp fuses in the amplifier, I would use
at least a 120-amp fuse near the battery. The size of the fuse near
the battery doesn't have anything to do with protecting the amplifier
- it's just to protect the wiring. In case of excessive current, as
long as the fuse near the battery blows before the main power wire
becomes damaged, it's done its job. If you pick a battery fuse
that's
too small, like 60- or 70-amps, you may end up repeatedly blowing the
battery fuse, just because of the current requirements of the amp.
Scott Gardner
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Fuse does not protecting the wire. Fuse is for protecting the device.
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Vestax05pro
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:
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FUSE IS TO PROTECT THE WIRE FROM CATCHING ON FIRE. Whoever said th
primary function of a fuse to protect your equipment is talking out o
their a$$. Please learn ohms law and come back with a more educate
answer
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