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Gerald Stombaugh
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.) spew
their childish patter. Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.

I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954. Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.

I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design. I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER. Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

Gerald Stombaugh

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Phil Allison
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

"Gerald Stombaugh"
Quote:

I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.)


** So you are a cretinous, demented fuckwit ??


Quote:
spew their childish patter.


** So you *are* a dopey, demented fuckwit.



Quote:
Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.



** So you ARE a paranoid demented fuckwit ?


Quote:
I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954.


** So you are clearly a demented fuckwit.


Quote:
Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.


** So you are a egomaniac, posturing demented fuckwit.



Quote:
I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design.


** So you are know nothing fuckwit with a collection of books you cannot
understand ?


Quote:
I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER.


** So you are a demented fuckwit who wants to big note yourself because of
your book collection ?


Quote:
Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere


** So you are a gutless fuckwit.


Quote:
Ya I know, who cares.


** So you are a gutless, demented fuckwit.


Quote:
Gerald Stombaugh = demented fuckwit.





............ love, Phil
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John Byrns
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

In article <d0hu119oe09723ib764mc7ql45t9a8m244@4ax.com>, Gerald Stombaugh
<bozo33@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.) spew
their childish patter. Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang."

It was "Danger Dave", not "Dangerous Dan", and he has since shuffled off
this mortal coil, maybe your attorney frightened him to death.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
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Neil Peters
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
"Gerald Stombaugh"

I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.)



** So you are a cretinous, demented fuckwit ??



spew their childish patter.



** So you *are* a dopey, demented fuckwit.




Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.




** So you ARE a paranoid demented fuckwit ?



I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954.



** So you are clearly a demented fuckwit.



Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.



** So you are a egomaniac, posturing demented fuckwit.




I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design.



** So you are know nothing fuckwit with a collection of books you cannot
understand ?



I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER.



** So you are a demented fuckwit who wants to big note yourself because of
your book collection ?



Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere



** So you are a gutless fuckwit.


Ya I know, who cares.


** So you are a gutless, demented fuckwit.



Gerald Stombaugh = demented fuckwit.






........... love, Phil




That is just plain rude and uncalled for regardless besides he is

offering help so don't ruin it for everyone else.
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Phil Allison
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

"Neil Peters"

Quote:
That is just plain rude and uncalled for regardless besides he is offering
help so don't ruin it for everyone else.



** The pig is a shithead.

You are a total asshole.




........... Phil
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Neil Peters
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
"Neil Peters"


That is just plain rude and uncalled for regardless besides he is offering
help so don't ruin it for everyone else.




** The pig is a shithead.

You are a total asshole.




.......... Phil


damn you are all lit up today. What did the shit head do to you?
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JamesG
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

Mr. Stombaugh,
Alas, I agree with you.

Unfortunately, Phil and his ilk has driven a great deal of thoughtful
discussion away from this board. This is a problem that is common to many
groups on the USENET. The only solution I have found is to add them to a
killfile so that you never see their posts. A friend of mine used to kill
whole threads if they contained any posts by the above mentioned individual
because they would quickly deteriorate into the type of profanity you can
see in the posts previous to this one.

An alternative solution that I and many others have used is to join
moderated web-based discussions so that such people can be excluded
relatively easily and discussions remain reasonably intelligent. One such
group that I frequent can be found at www.scorpiorising.ca
This site is run by Gregg (also found on RAT). The people there are a wide
range of ages and experience (I am one of the older ones but have less
knowledge of electronics than many of the younger ones on that forum). We
would be glad to have you.


"Gerald Stombaugh" <bozo33@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:d0hu119oe09723ib764mc7ql45t9a8m244@4ax.com...
Quote:
I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.) spew
their childish patter. Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.

I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954. Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.

I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design. I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER. Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

Gerald Stombaugh
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Patrick Turner
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

Gerald Stombaugh wrote:

Quote:
I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.) spew
their childish patter. Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.

I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954. Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.

I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design. I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER. Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

Gerald Stombaugh

We note your history of experience in the field of tranny design.

I don't want another war over transformers to eventuate.

At the moment, the discussions are about core losses, what causes them,
how they can be measured,
how materials can be tested, and for some, their own hot-headedness
turns many off the discussion
we could all benefit from.

I have grown fairly immune to the insults, since I have heard so many.

I know i don't know everything, and I would always seek to fill in the
gaps where
they'd make a difference to the quality of what i make.
I work profeessionally in the audio industry.
But many here are just hobbyists, and they would also like to know
the hows and whys of transformers, lest they see transformers as heavy
containers of agonizing mystery.

I wind all my own trannies, and they perform excellently compared to
all other products when I measure them.
So as far as I am concerned, I must be on the right track
even if my understandings of the why's are not 100% correct.
I'd be a blithering idiot if I maintained there was no further
improvement possible for my products as a result of deeper
understanding.

Forums always have bickering.
The US congress and state governments spend all day bickering;
you ought to listen to our nation's parliments!
Bickering goes on in knitting groups.
So what.
At the end of the day, we take away the gems and leave the
mullock heap fogotten.

Perhaps you could be so kind as to refer us to
beneficial information sources re core losses, their measurement,
the cause, the prediction of losses after tests, etc, etc.

I for one would not want you feel ill at ease during such process.

I freely ask questions all the time. It isn't bickering, its just part
of the understanding
process.

I share all my "professional data" freely.
I established a website with much that is of interest with regard to
tube craft,
and many folks have told me so in their private emails.

I am working on a design program for OPTs.

I should be able to make a final judgement on whether core losses in an
OPT
need to be accounted for in the design process.

Moses brought the ten commandments on stones down from the moumtain.
I don't recall he ran off with them because of the bickering.

Methinks Commandments need careful explanations from a dedicated priest
of high
learning experiences, and done with disregard to the noise.



Patrick Turner.
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François Yves Le Gal
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:41:05 -0700, Gerald Stombaugh <bozo33@comcast.net>
wrote:

Quote:
Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere.

Please don't. Just ignore the trolls and morons.

Oh, BTW, just click on the following link and learn about ourglobal village
idiot:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Phil+Allison%22
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Ian Iveson
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

"JamesG" <georglab@uabcvsr2.cvsr.uab.edu> wrote

Quote:
Mr. Stombaugh,
Alas, I agree with you.

Unfortunately, Phil and his ilk has driven a great deal of
thoughtful discussion away from this board.

Rubbish. We get fewer parasites and lonely people who want to chat
about bugger all. Thoughtful discussion barely happens on usenet.
Too full of posturing posers and their attendant grovelling dimwits.
The poverty of content is the problem, not the style.

You could always try though...how about a thoughtful contribution to
a discussion on transformer losses? No-one is stopping you.

cheers, Ian
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Ian Iveson
Guest





Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

"Gerald Stombaugh" <bozo33@comcast.net> wrote

Quote:
I have watched this forum for many years...

Parasite.

Quote:
...I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER...

How come you haven't already? You have been watching for many years
just waiting for a chance? And there has never been one? So what's
new? Why bleat now?

Quote:
...Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

What is there to care about?

cheers, Ian
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Rick Ralston
Guest





Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

I'm a ET 20 + yrs exp. DITTO to you
"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:421F53EE.FEFA7FE@turneraudio.com.au...
Quote:


Gerald Stombaugh wrote:

I have watched this forum for many years. I have seen
Andre, Dangerous Dan, Phil and others (all of whom
may be the work of one demented individual.) spew
their childish patter. Dangerous Dan even called the
president of Magnetek Corp. to see if I really worked
for the company. He just knew that I was part of
"the Magnequest Gang." I have spoken with Mike
but we have no business affiliations. Ole Dan was
more than a little suprised when he found that I was
the president of the magnetics division. He was
even more suprised when I had my attorney call
him at home.

I am nearly 72 years old and I have been designing
transformers since 1954. Small transformers used
in radio, TV, hi-fi, computers and other electronic
devices. I have designed audio transformers for
HK, Fisher, Marantz and all of the TV companies.

I have a storehouse of data books concerning audio
and power design. I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER. Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

Gerald Stombaugh

We note your history of experience in the field of tranny design.

I don't want another war over transformers to eventuate.

At the moment, the discussions are about core losses, what causes them,
how they can be measured,
how materials can be tested, and for some, their own hot-headedness
turns many off the discussion
we could all benefit from.

I have grown fairly immune to the insults, since I have heard so many.

I know i don't know everything, and I would always seek to fill in the
gaps where
they'd make a difference to the quality of what i make.
I work profeessionally in the audio industry.
But many here are just hobbyists, and they would also like to know
the hows and whys of transformers, lest they see transformers as heavy
containers of agonizing mystery.

I wind all my own trannies, and they perform excellently compared to
all other products when I measure them.
So as far as I am concerned, I must be on the right track
even if my understandings of the why's are not 100% correct.
I'd be a blithering idiot if I maintained there was no further
improvement possible for my products as a result of deeper
understanding.

Forums always have bickering.
The US congress and state governments spend all day bickering;
you ought to listen to our nation's parliments!
Bickering goes on in knitting groups.
So what.
At the end of the day, we take away the gems and leave the
mullock heap fogotten.

Perhaps you could be so kind as to refer us to
beneficial information sources re core losses, their measurement,
the cause, the prediction of losses after tests, etc, etc.

I for one would not want you feel ill at ease during such process.

I freely ask questions all the time. It isn't bickering, its just part
of the understanding
process.

I share all my "professional data" freely.
I established a website with much that is of interest with regard to
tube craft,
and many folks have told me so in their private emails.

I am working on a design program for OPTs.

I should be able to make a final judgement on whether core losses in an
OPT
need to be accounted for in the design process.

Moses brought the ten commandments on stones down from the moumtain.
I don't recall he ran off with them because of the bickering.

Methinks Commandments need careful explanations from a dedicated priest
of high
learning experiences, and done with disregard to the noise.



Patrick Turner.



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Patrick Turner
Guest





Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: There is no reason to share professional data here. Reply with quote

Ian Iveson wrote:

Quote:
"Gerald Stombaugh" <bozo33@comcast.net> wrote

I have watched this forum for many years...

Parasite.

...I would happily share this data
to people who would make good use of it in a
PROFESSIONAL MANNER...

How come you haven't already? You have been watching for many years
just waiting for a chance? And there has never been one? So what's
new? Why bleat now?

...Any future bickering
on this forum will send me elsewhere. Ya I know,
who cares.

What is there to care about?

There is the care of his fellow man to care about.

But anyone armed with knowledge craved is free to ignore
everyone. Ther are free to remain uninvolved, reticent, and posture
from a silent pedastal.
I prefer to be a part of the hurly burly world, and deal with whatever
comes along.

I will continue to do ok without the silent readers even though they
could
help out with sensible advice.

Some go further, and torture everyone as they release what they know.

People fear being heckled and treated badly if they say anything at all.

Thios makes it important to try to say things that are
comprensible by ordinary people, technically correct, and so on.
But there will still be a lot left to argue and bicker about.

Taking an active part in news groups requires inner emotional
liberation,
ie, you cannot be offended easily, and you have to ignore the
anti-personal
spiel some posters cannot resist.

Patrick Turner.






Quote:


cheers, Ian
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cowboy
Guest





Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: There IS an URGENT reason to share professional data here! Reply with quote

Quote:
But anyone armed with knowledge craved is free to ignore
everyone. Ther are free to remain uninvolved, reticent, and posture
from a silent pedastal.
I prefer to be a part of the hurly burly world, and deal with whatever
comes along.

I will continue to do ok without the silent readers even though they
could
help out with sensible advice.


I agree with Patrick, the foul mouth jerks can be kill-filed, but what about
the silent lurkers who never share any professional data or advice? they
are almost as bad as the trolls, never giving, only taking from the group

If you are 72 and have some knowledge about things electrical and concerning
tubes and amps, how about sharing it, so some youngster who is reading this
right now might learn something and get excited about vintage EE

otherwise, when you kick-off in a few years, what good were you to the
tranny men of tomorrow who are only 15 right now and trying to choose
between tube amps and drugs as a fun hobby?

look at what Tim Williams has become, he is already a tube design legend at
age 20! but no thanks to you!

try to use Fred Nachbaur as a role model for how to pass something on to the
next generation and make your place in heaven! we will never forget his
precious gifts to this group of his knowledge and most of all, his time!


wake up!

cowboy
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Patrick Turner
Guest





Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: There IS an URGENT reason to share professional data her Reply with quote

cowboy wrote:

Quote:
But anyone armed with knowledge craved is free to ignore
everyone. Ther are free to remain uninvolved, reticent, and posture
from a silent pedastal.
I prefer to be a part of the hurly burly world, and deal with whatever
comes along.

I will continue to do ok without the silent readers even though they
could
help out with sensible advice.

I agree with Patrick, the foul mouth jerks can be kill-filed, but what about
the silent lurkers who never share any professional data or advice? they
are almost as bad as the trolls, never giving, only taking from the group

And the silent know all lurkers occasionally join in to plunge a dagger
when I'm wrong.

They don't have the courage to share their daily thoughts and experiences.
They seem dried up, impotent, moribund, and have given up creating a legacy of
anything.


Quote:

If you are 72 and have some knowledge about things electrical and concerning
tubes and amps, how about sharing it, so some youngster who is reading this
right now might learn something and get excited about vintage EE

I am only 57, and have a lot to learn.
But some of these old codgers have that attitude that they know more than young
turks like me
because they did this and that for all these years and years, but really they
sound like a donkey
saying how far it pulled a cart.

Where are their inovative ideas now?

Where is their hand of friendship extended?

Quote:

otherwise, when you kick-off in a few years, what good were you to the
tranny men of tomorrow who are only 15 right now and trying to choose
between tube amps and drugs as a fun hobby?

I am not indispensible. I will soon be forgot when I am gone.
By then tube craft by diyers will be rarer than it is now because the chinese
will
have matured in their capabilities, and nobody in their right minds will
wind a tranny.


Quote:
look at what Tim Williams has become, he is already a tube design legend at
age 20! but no thanks to you!

Sure he's keen. But he can't hack the present discussions.
Where is he?
Maybe he learnt something.
But heck, at 20 a young man isn't able to make much money from tube craft.
He is probably occupied by 1,001 other preoccupations rather than
spending 12 hrs a day slaving away for peanuts building tube gear.
Almost nobody can go big without a huge capital investment.
Halcro went from cottage industry to a leader in hi-end SS gear
after someone rich who ran a silver and gold mining concern thought
it'd be fun to back a battler with a decent amp idea.
The battler wasn't a pup of 20.
Millions were spent to get the brand established in the minds
of the high-end cognescenti, and afaik, it has paid off.
I doubt anyone could do the same with tube amps.
I should have been artound in 1949, then I may have done good,
although I would then probably be sued by all these ppl claiming
I infringed their patents.

Quote:


try to use Fred Nachbaur as a role model for how to pass something on to the
next generation and make your place in heaven! we will never forget his
precious gifts to this group of his knowledge and most of all, his time!

He sure was a nice guy.

Patrick Turner.

Quote:


wake up!

cowboy
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