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Armchair Einstein
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject:
Are these RiDATA discs? |
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I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs" do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
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MCheu
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject:
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:28 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
<armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs" do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
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Ritek DOES brand their RiData discs. The OEM packaging (Red
shrinkwrap) has a branding stamp (it's like a branding iron hit it) in
the hub that says RiData. The Retail packaging (plastic cake box with
shrink wrap) has RITEK or RiData written on it and an arrow design in
opaque, matte colourless silkscreen.
The crappy surplus Ritek ones ("Arita", or grade B/C) have no markings
and look the way you're describing them. These are NOT RiData discs.
The Media ID is the same on all, since they're all manufactured by the
same company, on the same lines, on the same equipment, probably even
in the same run, but these didn't pass QC or weren't tested.
I'm not saying that Meritline is lying to you, but you might want to
get your money back.
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MCheu |
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luminos
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Are these RiDATA discs? |
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"MCheu" <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:28 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs"
do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these
new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
Ritek DOES brand their RiData discs. The OEM packaging (Red
shrinkwrap) has a branding stamp (it's like a branding iron hit it) in
the hub that says RiData. The Retail packaging (plastic cake box with
shrink wrap) has RITEK or RiData written on it and an arrow design in
opaque, matte colourless silkscreen.
The crappy surplus Ritek ones ("Arita", or grade B/C) have no markings
and look the way you're describing them. These are NOT RiData discs.
The Media ID is the same on all, since they're all manufactured by the
same company, on the same lines, on the same equipment, probably even
in the same run, but these didn't pass QC or weren't tested.
I'm not saying that Meritline is lying to you, but you might want to
get your money back.
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MCheu
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I concur. The Ridata I bought from Meritline has the branding stamp at the
hub or the matte embossed arrow logo.
Beware. |
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Armchair Einstein
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Are these RiDATA discs? |
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"MCheu" <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ap0pjat81d2v32d2kor5g5efbduq7ue@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:28 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs"
do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these
new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
Ritek DOES brand their RiData discs. The OEM packaging (Red
shrinkwrap) has a branding stamp (it's like a branding iron hit it) in
the hub that says RiData. The Retail packaging (plastic cake box with
shrink wrap) has RITEK or RiData written on it and an arrow design in
opaque, matte colourless silkscreen.
The crappy surplus Ritek ones ("Arita", or grade B/C) have no markings
and look the way you're describing them. These are NOT RiData discs.
The Media ID is the same on all, since they're all manufactured by the
same company, on the same lines, on the same equipment, probably even
in the same run, but these didn't pass QC or weren't tested.
I'm not saying that Meritline is lying to you, but you might want to
get your money back.
---------------------------------------------
MCheu
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I agree 100% with everything you said. I've purchased the matte RiDATA discs
many times and it ALWAYS has RiDATA stamped in the center hub (hard to see
unless you look real close, but it is always there). This batch has
absolutely NOTHING except some black batch/lot numbers or whatever. I
emailed them and got a response from "Ivy" who told me that RiDATA
silver-shiny and regular Ritek silver-shiny look *identical* and you cannot
tell them apart. I would think Ritek would want to boast about their "RiDATA
brand" whenever they could, so I cannot see them releasing them like this.
I'll call them and at least negotiate a partial refund or return.
Thanks for your replies. |
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Armchair Einstein
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
Re: Are these RiDATA discs? |
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Quick status update.
I spoke to Ken at Meritline and he told me that Ritek sometimes sends them
"RiDATA" discs that are not branded as such. I told him this was very
unlikely.
Then, I called Ritek and spoke with them. They confirmed that they do indeed
ship RiDATA discs that are non-branded, *BUT* they only ship these to
professional duplicators (i.e. companies that label these discs as their
own).
So, it seems that Meritline is confused on this issue and has been shipping
inferior Ritek discs as RiDATA discs.
Buyer beware ;) |
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doS
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
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to the others that replied...what a crock....I have ridata that are not hub
branded..it depends on which model on the disc you bought, I dont think a
crappy offbrand would read as G05.My inkjetprintable ridatas dont have any
markings that stand out.How much you want for those dics?
"Armchair Einstein" <armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote in
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"MCheu" <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ap0pjat81d2v32d2kor5g5efbduq7ue@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:28 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs"
do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are
they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these
new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between
them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
Ritek DOES brand their RiData discs. The OEM packaging (Red
shrinkwrap) has a branding stamp (it's like a branding iron hit it) in
the hub that says RiData. The Retail packaging (plastic cake box with
shrink wrap) has RITEK or RiData written on it and an arrow design in
opaque, matte colourless silkscreen.
The crappy surplus Ritek ones ("Arita", or grade B/C) have no markings
and look the way you're describing them. These are NOT RiData discs.
The Media ID is the same on all, since they're all manufactured by the
same company, on the same lines, on the same equipment, probably even
in the same run, but these didn't pass QC or weren't tested.
I'm not saying that Meritline is lying to you, but you might want to
get your money back.
---------------------------------------------
MCheu
I agree 100% with everything you said. I've purchased the matte RiDATA
discs
many times and it ALWAYS has RiDATA stamped in the center hub (hard to see
unless you look real close, but it is always there). This batch has
absolutely NOTHING except some black batch/lot numbers or whatever. I
emailed them and got a response from "Ivy" who told me that RiDATA
silver-shiny and regular Ritek silver-shiny look *identical* and you
cannot
tell them apart. I would think Ritek would want to boast about their
"RiDATA
brand" whenever they could, so I cannot see them releasing them like this.
I'll call them and at least negotiate a partial refund or return.
Thanks for your replies.
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Armchair Einstein
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
Re: Are these RiDATA discs? |
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"doS" <supernewssux@hotNOTSOhotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | so what type of issues are you having?
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Well, the first issue I am having is that I paid a higher price that I
should have. I paid for the more expensive "RiDATA" discs, and they shipped
me non-RiDATA discs.
The second issue I guess I am having is the concern over the quality of the
discs. What type of longevity will they have? Do I have to worry about them
not working in a year when I plop it in the player?
Ritek must "downgrade" these for a reason. And, I paid a premium price for
them not to be downgraded.
Who likes to buy a Cadillac, but drive off the lot in a Ford? Just because
the Ford hasn't broken down right away doesn't mean you've "got your money's
worth." |
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doS
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
Re: Are these RiDATA discs? |
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so what type of issues are you having?
"Armchair Einstein" <armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote in
message news:10pak51cd36vs2c@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | Quick status update.
I spoke to Ken at Meritline and he told me that Ritek sometimes sends them
"RiDATA" discs that are not branded as such. I told him this was very
unlikely.
Then, I called Ritek and spoke with them. They confirmed that they do
indeed
ship RiDATA discs that are non-branded, *BUT* they only ship these to
professional duplicators (i.e. companies that label these discs as their
own).
So, it seems that Meritline is confused on this issue and has been
shipping
inferior Ritek discs as RiDATA discs.
Buyer beware ;)
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doS
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:00 am Post subject:
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will your dvd burner work in a year
will your pc work in a year
will you be around in a year....
G05 certainly aren't downgrades.
"Armchair Einstein" <armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote in
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"doS" <supernewssux@hotNOTSOhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pak8krng7sq88@corp.supernews.com...
so what type of issues are you having?
Well, the first issue I am having is that I paid a higher price that I
should have. I paid for the more expensive "RiDATA" discs, and they
shipped
me non-RiDATA discs.
The second issue I guess I am having is the concern over the quality of
the
discs. What type of longevity will they have? Do I have to worry about
them
not working in a year when I plop it in the player?
Ritek must "downgrade" these for a reason. And, I paid a premium price for
them not to be downgraded.
Who likes to buy a Cadillac, but drive off the lot in a Ford? Just because
the Ford hasn't broken down right away doesn't mean you've "got your
money's
worth."
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Octavian
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:03 am Post subject:
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"Armchair Einstein" <armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote in
message news:10pakiafut4npea@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | Well, the first issue I am having is that I paid a higher price that I
should have. I paid for the more expensive "RiDATA" discs, and they
shipped > me non-RiDATA discs.
The second issue I guess I am having is the concern over the quality of
the > discs. What type of longevity will they have? Do I have to worry about |
them > not working in a year when I plop it in the player?
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Ritek must "downgrade" these for a reason. And, I paid a premium price for
them not to be downgraded.
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Thanks for the info. You've convinced me not to buy from Meritline. You may
have saved lots of trouble for lots of people. |
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Stephen Worth
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In article <reeld.9135$IQ.8988@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, Octavian
<lmone@paris.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for the info. You've convinced me not to buy from Meritline. You may
have saved lots of trouble for lots of people.
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I got a batch of 100 Ridata frosted back DVD-Rs from Meritline last
week. They are in 50 pack cakeboxes with Ridata inserts and the
disks are stamped Ridata on the hub. They work great.
See ya
Steve
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Armchair Einstein
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"Stephen Worth" <news@vintageip.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <reeld.9135$IQ.8988@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, Octavian
lmone@paris.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info. You've convinced me not to buy from Meritline. You
may
have saved lots of trouble for lots of people.
I got a batch of 100 Ridata frosted back DVD-Rs from Meritline last
week. They are in 50 pack cakeboxes with Ridata inserts and the
disks are stamped Ridata on the hub. They work great.
See ya
Steve
Aye, that's the way it should be. Stamped/branded. |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:09:42 -0500, "doS"
<supernewssux@hotNOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | to the others that replied...what a crock....I have ridata that are not hub
branded..it depends on which model on the disc you bought, I dont think a
crappy offbrand would read as G05.My inkjetprintable ridatas dont have any
markings that stand out.How much you want for those dics?
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They are the aritas that you have bought. No markings means grade b or
c or worse.
Ritek arita has the identical media code as ridata.
IE. dvd-r 4x arita or ridata media id of RITEKG04.
IE dvd-r 8x arita or ridata media id of RITEKG05.
Arita or no brand ones are a hell of a lot cheaper but are definately
not grade a but a lower grade disc which is why they are cheaper.
This site say sit all and explains the grading of arita and ridata.
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=76
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"Armchair Einstein" <armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote in
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"MCheu" <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vs5ap0pjat81d2v32d2kor5g5efbduq7ue@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:28 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
I just purchased a 500 pack of Ritek RiDATA G05 8X DVD-R discs from
Meritline. These ones are silver-shiny.
I usually buy the same discs, but matte. The "matte" discs have "RiDATA"
emblem embedded in the clear plastic center hub. These new silver-shiny
ones do NOT.
I contacted Meritline and they said that the silver-shiny "RiDATA discs"
do
NOT look any different from the lower grade silver-shiny Riteks. Are
they
blowing smoke up my arse?
DVDInfoPro says that both discs (verified RiDATA discs, as well as these
new
ones) are both Ritek G05. So, I cannot see anything different between
them
in DVDInfoPro, but wouldn't Ritek brand their RiDATA discs?
Ritek DOES brand their RiData discs. The OEM packaging (Red
shrinkwrap) has a branding stamp (it's like a branding iron hit it) in
the hub that says RiData. The Retail packaging (plastic cake box with
shrink wrap) has RITEK or RiData written on it and an arrow design in
opaque, matte colourless silkscreen.
The crappy surplus Ritek ones ("Arita", or grade B/C) have no markings
and look the way you're describing them. These are NOT RiData discs.
The Media ID is the same on all, since they're all manufactured by the
same company, on the same lines, on the same equipment, probably even
in the same run, but these didn't pass QC or weren't tested.
I'm not saying that Meritline is lying to you, but you might want to
get your money back.
---------------------------------------------
MCheu
I agree 100% with everything you said. I've purchased the matte RiDATA
discs
many times and it ALWAYS has RiDATA stamped in the center hub (hard to see
unless you look real close, but it is always there). This batch has
absolutely NOTHING except some black batch/lot numbers or whatever. I
emailed them and got a response from "Ivy" who told me that RiDATA
silver-shiny and regular Ritek silver-shiny look *identical* and you
cannot
tell them apart. I would think Ritek would want to boast about their
"RiDATA
brand" whenever they could, so I cannot see them releasing them like this.
I'll call them and at least negotiate a partial refund or return.
Thanks for your replies.
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:16:35 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
<armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
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"doS" <supernewssux@hotNOTSOhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pak8krng7sq88@corp.supernews.com...
so what type of issues are you having?
Well, the first issue I am having is that I paid a higher price that I
should have. I paid for the more expensive "RiDATA" discs, and they shipped
me non-RiDATA discs.
The second issue I guess I am having is the concern over the quality of the
discs. What type of longevity will they have? Do I have to worry about them
not working in a year when I plop it in the player?
Ritek must "downgrade" these for a reason. And, I paid a premium price for
them not to be downgraded.
Who likes to buy a Cadillac, but drive off the lot in a Ford? Just because
the Ford hasn't broken down right away doesn't mean you've "got your money's
worth."
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Get your money back and have a read of this site.
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=76 |
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doS
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:04 am Post subject:
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That review was wrote by a moron, if he wanted ridata, he should have bought
ridata
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| Quote: | On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:16:35 -0800, "Armchair Einstein"
armchair_einstein@invalid_domain_of_pain.com> wrote:
"doS" <supernewssux@hotNOTSOhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pak8krng7sq88@corp.supernews.com...
so what type of issues are you having?
Well, the first issue I am having is that I paid a higher price that I
should have. I paid for the more expensive "RiDATA" discs, and they
shipped
me non-RiDATA discs.
The second issue I guess I am having is the concern over the quality of
the
discs. What type of longevity will they have? Do I have to worry about
them
not working in a year when I plop it in the player?
Ritek must "downgrade" these for a reason. And, I paid a premium price
for
them not to be downgraded.
Who likes to buy a Cadillac, but drive off the lot in a Ford? Just
because
the Ford hasn't broken down right away doesn't mean you've "got your
money's
worth."
Get your money back and have a read of this site.
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index |
&req=showcontent&id=76
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