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Don Mooty
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:11 am Post subject:
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TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
requires the use of a programmable phone with two memories, one for
the AT&T access number and the other for the card number.
Set the detect dial tone option off
Set phone presence detection off
Enter Setup and proceed to the offering of program guide access
numbers
Choose the best long distance number.
Pick up your programmable phone and listen as it dials out. The idea
is to dial your 800 number and card number and end up with a you can
dial now just before the unit dials. This may take a couple of passes
to get the hang of it. On AT&Ts service you can hit the # key to get
some options offered to avoid timing out. Once you get it right, the
operation proceeds just like a local call. On my Comcast cable without
digital it takes about 10 minutes to download.
You can go about 12 days on TIVO Basic service before it starts
affecting the program guide, other than late changes like football
games.
Since you have no long distance service the TIVO gets a busy signal
when it tries to dial out and you then do a connect now update when
you want to before retiring.
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Jud Hardcastle
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:01 am Post subject:
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In article <v838p018ukh5d68doh3r3aa9st7vf1j3jt@4ax.com>,
mooty@earthlink.net says...
| Quote: | TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
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I'm a bit confused as to why you need to do all that. First of all if
you have Comcast cable broadband why not just connect Tivo that way?
Anyway, why the telephone thing instead of just putting your "800
#,pin#,," or something like that in Tivo's "dial prefix" field? Or
doesn't the Toshiba model have that?
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Jud
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tooloud
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:01 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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Jud Hardcastle wrote:
| Quote: | In article <v838p018ukh5d68doh3r3aa9st7vf1j3jt@4ax.com>,
mooty@earthlink.net says...
TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
I'm a bit confused as to why you need to do all that. First of all if
you have Comcast cable broadband why not just connect Tivo that way?
Anyway, why the telephone thing instead of just putting your "800
#,pin#,," or something like that in Tivo's "dial prefix" field? Or
doesn't the Toshiba model have that?
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Because some of us still own the first model Tivo ever produced...the
14-hour one, which isn't easily networked. By "isn't easily networked", I
mean that some of us don't care to buy additional hardware and crack open
the case on a box that functions perfectly fine over the phone line. Why so
many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to download
program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone line is
beyond me.
Anyway, I keep my original upgraded Tivo around as a backup to my HR10-250,
which also dials up just fine on my fax line.
--
tooloud
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Seth
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:03 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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"tooloud" <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:2vin0lF2l05gaU1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | Jud Hardcastle wrote:
In article <v838p018ukh5d68doh3r3aa9st7vf1j3jt@4ax.com>,
mooty@earthlink.net says...
TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
I'm a bit confused as to why you need to do all that. First of all if
you have Comcast cable broadband why not just connect Tivo that way?
Anyway, why the telephone thing instead of just putting your "800
#,pin#,," or something like that in Tivo's "dial prefix" field? Or
doesn't the Toshiba model have that?
Because some of us still own the first model Tivo ever produced...the
14-hour one, which isn't easily networked. By "isn't easily networked", I
mean that some of us don't care to buy additional hardware and crack open
the case on a box that functions perfectly fine over the phone line. Why
so many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to download
program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone line is
beyond me.
Anyway, I keep my original upgraded Tivo around as a backup to my
HR10-250, which also dials up just fine on my fax line.
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Well, in the case of the OP, he doesn't have a Series1. No Series1 machine
were made with TiVo Basic, so it must be a Series2. A $15 USB adapter seems
like a lot less trouble than what he's going through as described. |
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Leslie A Rhorer
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:01 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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| Quote: | Because some of us still own the first model Tivo ever produced...the
14-hour one, which isn't easily networked. By "isn't easily networked", I
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It's no more difficult than any TiVo. It's easier in some respects than
the newest ones.
| Quote: | mean that some of us don't care to buy additional hardware and crack open
the case on a box that functions perfectly fine over the phone line. Why
so
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"Perfectly fine" is definitely a subjective and specific assessment.
With my SBC phone lines, 2/3 or more of the attempts failed. With teenages
around the house, many more failed. What's more, only the phone update
worked at all. Telnet, FTP, tyServer, and TiVoWeb all require networking.
| Quote: | many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to download
program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone line is
beyond me.
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If it were just that, I would not have, but it isn't. The Network
based tools are extremely important to me, and in any case, once I switched
my phone server to Vonage, the TiVo daily call would not work at all. I had
to switch toa networked solution whetehr I really wanted to or not (I did).
Saving over $250 a year at a one time cost of $69 while getting greatly
enhanced features on both my phone and my TiVo was well worth it. |
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Kenny
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:48 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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"Jud Hardcastle" <l5i5changethistodash5rbo@xemaps.removethis.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1bfdd3a9f9c65f3d98980a@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
| Quote: | In article <v838p018ukh5d68doh3r3aa9st7vf1j3jt@4ax.com>,
mooty@earthlink.net says...
TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
I'm a bit confused as to why you need to do all that. First of all if
you have Comcast cable broadband why not just connect Tivo that way?
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He has comcast providing his cabletv. He didn't say that he had a broadband
internet connection. Some of us would rather tolerate the slowness of dial
up access for $15/month than pay three times that much or more to comcast.
| Quote: | Anyway, why the telephone thing instead of just putting your "800
#,pin#,," or something like that in Tivo's "dial prefix" field? Or
doesn't the Toshiba model have that?
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Jud
Dallas TX USA
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can you even put that many digits into the dial prefix? |
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tooloud
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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Kenny wrote:
| Quote: | "tooloud" <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:2vin0lF2l05gaU1@uni-berlin.de...
Why so many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to
download program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a
phone line is beyond me.
Actually it's about a two minute phone call that occurs mostly in the
wee hours of the night.
why are they so desperate? Keep in mind that you are asking this in
a forum for an electronic/computer like gizmo. It's going to be
mostly tech-heads that reside in and get heard in such a forum. So
the popular opinion on any subject is going to be heavily skewed
toward the tech-head view.
The vast majority of Tivo users have never even heard of
alt.video.ptv.tivo and see little or no reason to ever visit tivo.com
and they also find recording things at basic quality to be perfectly
acceptable on their non-upgraded Tivos. They have no vanity to
publicly display regarding their Tivo or how they use it.
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I agree 100%. Personally, the "network it" argument always seems like the
answer to a question that 98% of owners have never even asked.
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tooloud
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tooloud
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:
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Leslie A Rhorer wrote:
| Quote: | Because some of us still own the first model Tivo ever produced...the
14-hour one, which isn't easily networked. By "isn't easily
networked", I
It's no more difficult than any TiVo. It's easier in some
respects than the newest ones.
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It is? You're telling me that I can network my Series 1 Tivo as easily as a
Series 2 with a USB port on the back?
| Quote: | mean that some of us don't care to buy additional hardware and crack
open the case on a box that functions perfectly fine over the phone
line. Why so
"Perfectly fine" is definitely a subjective and specific
assessment. With my SBC phone lines, 2/3 or more of the attempts
failed. With teenages around the house, many more failed. What's
more, only the phone update worked at all. Telnet, FTP, tyServer,
and TiVoWeb all require networking.
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While "perfectly fine" may be subjective, I'd be interested to hear how many
"normal" users, i.e. "users that don't regularly consult a newsgroup",
actually receive their program info via any means other than the built-in
modem. I'll bet it's pretty small.
| Quote: | many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to
download program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a
phone line is beyond me.
If it were just that, I would not have, but it isn't. The Network
based tools are extremely important to me, and in any case, once I
switched my phone server to Vonage, the TiVo daily call would not
work at all. I had to switch toa networked solution whetehr I really
wanted to or not (I did). Saving over $250 a year at a one time cost of
$69 while getting greatly enhanced features on both my phone and
my TiVo was well worth it.
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I've read that Vonage doesn't necessarily cause the problems it's accused
of.
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tooloud
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wkearney99
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:
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Damn, now that's some flamin' hoops to jump through.
"Don Mooty" <mooty@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:v838p018ukh5d68doh3r3aa9st7vf1j3jt@4ax.com...
| Quote: | TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success from Toshiba with Basic TIVO
After moving to an area without local tivo access and lacking instate
long distance service, I finally solved the setup and program update
problem.
This works if you have NO Long Distance provider specified and it
works for me with a Sam's AT&T prepaid calling card. It also almost
requires the use of a programmable phone with two memories, one for
the AT&T access number and the other for the card number.
Set the detect dial tone option off
Set phone presence detection off
Enter Setup and proceed to the offering of program guide access
numbers
Choose the best long distance number.
Pick up your programmable phone and listen as it dials out. The idea
is to dial your 800 number and card number and end up with a you can
dial now just before the unit dials. This may take a couple of passes
to get the hang of it. On AT&Ts service you can hit the # key to get
some options offered to avoid timing out. Once you get it right, the
operation proceeds just like a local call. On my Comcast cable without
digital it takes about 10 minutes to download. |
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Kenny
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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"tooloud" <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:2vin0lF2l05gaU1@uni-berlin.de...
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Why so many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to
download program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone
line is beyond me.
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Actually it's about a two minute phone call that occurs mostly in the wee
hours of the night.
why are they so desperate? Keep in mind that you are asking this in a forum
for an electronic/computer like gizmo. It's going to be mostly tech-heads
that reside in and get heard in such a forum. So the popular opinion on any
subject is going to be heavily skewed toward the tech-head view.
The vast majority of Tivo users have never even heard of alt.video.ptv.tivo
and see little or no reason to ever visit tivo.com and they also find
recording things at basic quality to be perfectly acceptable on their
non-upgraded Tivos. They have no vanity to publicly display regarding their
Tivo or how they use it. |
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Kenny
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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"Leslie A Rhorer" <lrhorer@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
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once I switched my phone server to Vonage, the TiVo daily call would not
work at all. I had to switch toa networked solution whetehr I really
wanted to or not
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No you didn't. External modems work just fine with Vonage. |
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Kenny
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:
Re: TIVO via 800 Calling Card Success |
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"Homer L. Hazel" <hNoOmerlhANTI@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Greetings,
"Kenny" <ohmygodtheykilledme@southpark.com> wrote in message
news:2vnph9F2o879eU1@uni-berlin.de...
"tooloud" <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:2vin0lF2l05gaU1@uni-berlin.de...
Why so many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to
download program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone
line is beyond me.
It would be interesting to get some statistics from Tivo corporate on
this.
I wonder how many people have the Home Media option which requires
some sort of network to read music and pictures from a PC.
I wonder how many people use Home Media to view recorded programs
on another Tivo.
I wonder how many people use the Internet to schedule programs on their
Tivo's.
I think the answers to these questions might explain why so many Tivo
users are anxious to have a network connection.
Larry Hazel
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I don't see how the answer to the question "how many?" would even be related
to much less the reason for for the question "why?" And I don't believe
that there really are a whole lot of people anxious to get their Tivos
connected to a network. Of the Tivo owners I know, not one of them has
networked their Tivo and not one of them has any plans too do so. People
buy these "toys" because the Jones' have one, they plug them in and very
quickly forget anything that they briefly skimmed over in the manual, so
they are generally clueless as to using it to it's fullest potential. They
learn how to record stuff by trial and error and that's good enough for
them. |
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Homer L. Hazel
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:
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Greetings,
"Kenny" <ohmygodtheykilledme@southpark.com> wrote in message
news:2vnph9F2o879eU1@uni-berlin.de...
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"tooloud" <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:2vin0lF2l05gaU1@uni-berlin.de...
Why so many people are so desperate to use a broadband connection to
download program data that takes less than ten minutes a day on a phone
line is beyond me.
It would be interesting to get some statistics from Tivo corporate on this. |
I wonder how many people have the Home Media option which requires
some sort of network to read music and pictures from a PC.
I wonder how many people use Home Media to view recorded programs
on another Tivo.
I wonder how many people use the Internet to schedule programs on their
Tivo's.
I think the answers to these questions might explain why so many Tivo
users are anxious to have a network connection.
Larry Hazel |
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Leslie A Rhorer
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:03 am Post subject:
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OK, I should have said I had to switch to some other solution than the
internal modem. Given the choice between buying an external modem and
buying a TurboNet card, the choice was pretty obvious, especailly since I
had no way of knowing apriori the external modem would work, and the
TurboNet card allowed me to do many things I wants to do in the first place.
"Kenny" <ohmygodtheykilledme@southpark.com> wrote in message
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"Leslie A Rhorer" <lrhorer@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:WUYkd.5496$pu3.1177@fe2.texas.rr.com...
once I switched my phone server to Vonage, the TiVo daily call would not
work at all. I had to switch toa networked solution whetehr I really
wanted to or not
No you didn't. External modems work just fine with Vonage.
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Scott Alfter
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:03 am Post subject:
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tooloud <nospam.jake@mchsi.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Leslie A Rhorer wrote:
Because some of us still own the first model Tivo ever produced...the
14-hour one, which isn't easily networked. By "isn't easily
networked", I
It's no more difficult than any TiVo. It's easier in some
respects than the newest ones.
It is? You're telling me that I can network my Series 1 Tivo as easily as a
Series 2 with a USB port on the back?
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1) Purchase a TurboNet card.
2) Unplug and open your TiVo.
3) Attach the TurboNet to the edge connector at the front of the TiVo's
motherboard (it only fits one way, so you can't screw it up).
4) Feed a network cable through a convenient hole in the back of the case to
the RJ-45 connector on the TurboNet.
5) Close your TiVo.
6) Reboot and set your dialing prefix to (IIRC) ,#401 (or whatever it is).
There are maybe a couple more steps involved than for a USB dongle, but it's
nothing that a TiVo user of average intelligence can't figure out. If all
you want it to do is grab schedule info over your broadband connection, you
don't need to add any software to your TiVo.
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