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Local Hooligan
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

From what I have managed to remember its a strange, annoying, and
unpredictable problem I have noticed when I record in SVHS-ET format to a
VHS tape.

I have a JVC HR-S3911U SVHS VCR and one day I decided to record myself
completing Dreamcast "D2". I connected my Dreamcast to my VCR via SVHS with
generic HAIS VGA box that has SVHS out. The tape I was using for this was a
Maxell Standard grade T160 tape. The speed was set to EP and the entire
recording took seven hours, twenty-two minutes without any pauses or stops.

After the recording, I rewound the tape from the begining and noticed the
for the majority of the recording, the video drops out (as in the automatic
video calibration in EP mode causes the screen to go to blue) about every
seconds but does end sometime into into the recording, before the ending of
the recording (I have not sat down to view the entire video tape to note
when exactly this video "drop" ends).

Can anyone tell me where I went wrong in my recording? Is there a way I can
fix this?

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ric
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

Local Hooligan wrote:

Quote:
From what I have managed to remember its a strange, annoying, and
unpredictable problem I have noticed when I record in SVHS-ET format to a
VHS tape.

I have a JVC HR-S3911U SVHS VCR and one day I decided to record myself
completing Dreamcast "D2". I connected my Dreamcast to my VCR via SVHS with
generic HAIS VGA box that has SVHS out. The tape I was using for this was a
Maxell Standard grade T160 tape. The speed was set to EP and the entire
recording took seven hours, twenty-two minutes without any pauses or stops.

After the recording, I rewound the tape from the begining and noticed the
for the majority of the recording, the video drops out (as in the automatic
video calibration in EP mode causes the screen to go to blue) about every
seconds but does end sometime into into the recording, before the ending of
the recording (I have not sat down to view the entire video tape to note
when exactly this video "drop" ends).

Can anyone tell me where I went wrong in my recording? Is there a way I can
fix this?

Your problems are: 1) The VCR you have is known for lousy SVHS-ET in the
EP speed, and 2) the Maxell Standard Grade T160 tape is not great for SVHS-ET
recording at the EP speed.

With that tape and that VCR and EP recording, you probably should use normal
VHS, not SVHS-ET. Or if you must use SVHS-ET in the EP speed with that VCR,
try a better tape. (For EP recording, I recommend sticking to SVHS recording.)

[BTW...there is no such thing as "SVHS out." It is called "S-video out."]
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Local Hooligan
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
on VHS tapes.

I would like to ask another question though: who makes the best SVHS tapes
and which kind of tapes would be the best for me? I do alot broadcast TV
and video game recordings so I mostly record on Maxell or Sony "all-pupose"
brands. However, I am am considering using my SVHS VCR (in SVHS mode) to
back-up my laserdisc collection. Can someone recommend a SVHS brand or any
other advice?

"ric" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message news:41684287.12CAB559@home.com...
Quote:
Local Hooligan wrote:

From what I have managed to remember its a strange, annoying, and
unpredictable problem I have noticed when I record in SVHS-ET format to
a
VHS tape.

I have a JVC HR-S3911U SVHS VCR and one day I decided to record myself
completing Dreamcast "D2". I connected my Dreamcast to my VCR via SVHS
with
generic HAIS VGA box that has SVHS out. The tape I was using for this
was a
Maxell Standard grade T160 tape. The speed was set to EP and the entire
recording took seven hours, twenty-two minutes without any pauses or
stops.

After the recording, I rewound the tape from the begining and noticed
the
for the majority of the recording, the video drops out (as in the
automatic
video calibration in EP mode causes the screen to go to blue) about
every
seconds but does end sometime into into the recording, before the ending
of
the recording (I have not sat down to view the entire video tape to note
when exactly this video "drop" ends).

Can anyone tell me where I went wrong in my recording? Is there a way I
can
fix this?

Your problems are: 1) The VCR you have is known for lousy SVHS-ET in the
EP speed, and 2) the Maxell Standard Grade T160 tape is not great for
SVHS-ET
recording at the EP speed.

With that tape and that VCR and EP recording, you probably should use
normal
VHS, not SVHS-ET. Or if you must use SVHS-ET in the EP speed with that
VCR,
try a better tape. (For EP recording, I recommend sticking to SVHS
recording.)

[BTW...there is no such thing as "SVHS out." It is called "S-video out."]
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GMAN
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

In article <1f_9d.7853$UP1.3002@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Local Hooligan" <torgo439-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
on VHS tapes.


Its ok for SVHS-ET on SP settings but even with a higher end vcr like ric's
U795, its best to test the results with each and every tape you use before
archiving to SVHS-ET mode. Your decision to stick with VHS mode is the most
logical.

Quote:
I would like to ask another question though: who makes the best SVHS tapes
and which kind of tapes would be the best for me? I do alot broadcast TV
and video game recordings so I mostly record on Maxell or Sony "all-pupose"
brands. However, I am am considering using my SVHS VCR (in SVHS mode) to
back-up my laserdisc collection. Can someone recommend a SVHS brand or any
other advice?

Stop right there. DO NOT waste your time. Spend the few hundred dollars
and get a set-top DVD recorder and dub those laserdiscs to DVD-R.

(You can get no name DVD set-top recorders at walmart now for $150-$200 ish
if you are on a budget , but i would advise against going too cheap.) Get a
name brand one with at least a 40 gig hard drive and you can edit what is
captured.
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ric
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

Local Hooligan wrote:

Quote:
Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
on VHS tapes.

I didn't say that. Just don't use entry level VHS tape (the lowest grade
that a manufacturer makes) when attempting a SVHS-ET recording at EP speed.
Basically, if you're going to make an EP recording, stay with standard SVHS,
or use a premium grade VHS tape if recording SVHS-ET in EP.

Quote:
I would like to ask another question though: who makes the best SVHS tapes
and which kind of tapes would be the best for me? I do alot broadcast TV
and video game recordings so I mostly record on Maxell or Sony "all-pupose"
brands. However, I am am considering using my SVHS VCR (in SVHS mode) to
back-up my laserdisc collection. Can someone recommend a SVHS brand or any
other advice?

Well, there's the *BEST* (Fuji H471, Sony MQ), then there are the best
performing, reasonably priced tapes. I prefer the TDK XPSP, but have had
good luck with the Maxell or Fuji standard grade SVHS tapes as well.)

Browse through http://www.tapewarehouse.com or http://www.tapeworld.com
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arthur wouk
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

In article <4168B9EA.D745EE8A@home.com>, ric <nospam@home.com> wrote:
:Local Hooligan wrote:
:
:> Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
:> steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
:> on VHS tapes.
:
:I didn't say that. Just don't use entry level VHS tape (the lowest grade
:that a manufacturer makes) when attempting a SVHS-ET recording at EP speed.
:Basically, if you're going to make an EP recording, stay with standard SVHS,
:or use a premium grade VHS tape if recording SVHS-ET in EP.
:

my jvc hr-s5901 does excellent s-vhs recordings on sony premium which
is probably their entry level tape. it also does well on many other
equivalent tapes. always in EP: i use it copy operas which i do not
own from dvds (they are never copy protected) when i don't feel that
the dvd is worth purchasing but it is nice to have a copy around.
operas usually run 2.5-4.5 hours so SP is out of the question.
--
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- jules feifer
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ric
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

arthur wouk wrote:

Quote:
:> Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
:> steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
:> on VHS tapes.
:
:I didn't say that. Just don't use entry level VHS tape (the lowest grade
:that a manufacturer makes) when attempting a SVHS-ET recording at EP speed.
:Basically, if you're going to make an EP recording, stay with standard SVHS,
:or use a premium grade VHS tape if recording SVHS-ET in EP.
:

my jvc hr-s5901 does excellent s-vhs recordings on sony premium which
is probably their entry level tape. it also does well on many other
equivalent tapes. always in EP:

That's nice. Re-read the above. The comment was about using *SVHS-ET* in
the EP mode (with his JVC 39xx), not standard SVHS. My Mitsubishi does
excellent work in EP with SVHS recordings, too. SVHS-ET in EP ?? Really
depends upon the tape.
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arthur wouk
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: What do YOU think is the cause of bad SVHS-ET Recording? Reply with quote

In article <41698AF6.32EA157@home.com>, ric <nospam@home.com> wrote:
:arthur wouk wrote:
:
:> :> Nuts, I wish I had known that sooner. I bought this VCR thinking it was
:> :> steal at only $120 out of the box. I guess I will stick to VHS recordings
:> :> on VHS tapes.
:> :
:> :I didn't say that. Just don't use entry level VHS tape (the lowest grade
:> :that a manufacturer makes) when attempting a SVHS-ET recording at EP speed.
:> :Basically, if you're going to make an EP recording, stay with standard SVHS,
:> :or use a premium grade VHS tape if recording SVHS-ET in EP.
:> :
:>
:> my jvc hr-s5901 does excellent s-vhs recordings on sony premium which
:> is probably their entry level tape. it also does well on many other
:> equivalent tapes. always in EP:
:
:That's nice. Re-read the above. The comment was about using *SVHS-ET* in
:the EP mode (with his JVC 39xx), not standard SVHS. My Mitsubishi does
:excellent work in EP with SVHS recordings, too. SVHS-ET in EP ?? Really
:depends upon the tape.

i was not clear. i meant SVHS-ET at EP. i assumed that was the only
subject worth discussing.

anyway, at least my jvc hr-s5901 does the job just fine. i use it in
et mode when i want a better quality recording - i can play back on
other machines to my main tv either in s-vhs on my mitusbishi 778 or
in vhs on an older high end sony. so i actualkly have to decide where
i plan to see what i tape on the jvc and set s-vhs-et specifically
for such a recording. and thus i know which i am recording.

[i have a very complicated taping life so this multiplicity of machines
serves my family's needs.]
--
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- jules feifer
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