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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:20 am Post subject:
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Greetings all:
I have owned this VCR since late 1988 but have really only used it
during the first 6 years and then it was left just plugged in until
using it daily for the past few months. I have only used VHS tapes in
the VCR and it still records correctly but there is a problem with
playback. What happens is that when Play is pressed, it will show
SVHS and then the Digital light for Digital Features comes on and then
the Front Panel will display Play and Fast Forward with the tape
playing at the Play and Fast Forward speed. Holding down Play button
while this occurs will make it play normally and the Digital light
will go off but as soon as I lift my finger off the play button, the
Play + Fast Forward mode will return. Pressing pause will pause for
1/2 second and then do the Play + Fast Forward mode. I cleaned the
tape path including the Audio Control Head and also replaced the idler
and idler tire as the idler tire did have a gap but it didn't make a
difference even when using a VHS see thru test-jig. Anyone knows what
is wrong and will this cost a lot in parts to fix? Will non-JVC
authorized servicers be able to fix this? Thanks for any help in
advance.
Cheers,
Vince
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JVC dude
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:00 pm Post subject:
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Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these decks have
optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange modes with light
otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or something similar.
when you say play button do you mean on the set or the remote.
~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do that.
if its not related to the remote then there may be a faulty switch on the
front panel. its certainly not a common problem.
I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a capstan
motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its more likely to be one
of the above.
hope this helps
AW |
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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
| Quote: | Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these decks
have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange modes with
light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or something
similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set or the
remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do
that. if its not related to the remote then there may be a faulty
switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem.
I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its more
likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
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Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if things
are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was on when the
problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it will decide to play a
tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm talking about the button on
the front panel and not the remote as I haven't used my remote in a few
years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that
wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to figure out will this be a expensive
repair since I see a lot of repairers that aren't factory authorized but
don't most problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them what
is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed labor rate but then
you have to pay for parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince |
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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
| Quote: | "JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these decks
have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange modes with
light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or something
similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set or the
remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do
that. if its not related to the remote then there may be a faulty
switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem.
I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its more
likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if
things are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was on
when the problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it will
decide to play a tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm talking
about the button on the front panel and not the remote as I haven't
used my remote in a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few
times just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot of
repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most problems need
a service manual or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it
seems lots of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay
for parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
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I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays normally
but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince |
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Mark D. Zacharias
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject:
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Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem. Seen things
like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
| Quote: | Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these decks
have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange modes with
light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or something
similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set or the
remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do
that. if its not related to the remote then there may be a faulty
switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem.
I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its more
likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if
things are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was on
when the problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it will
decide to play a tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm talking
about the button on the front panel and not the remote as I haven't
used my remote in a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few
times just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot of
repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most problems need
a service manual or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it
seems lots of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay
for parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays normally
but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Mark D. Zacharias
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject:
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P.S.
JVC had lots of problems with those blister-switch and flat key-matrix
panels in similar models.
Mark Z.
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de...
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Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem. Seen
things
like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these decks
have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange modes with
light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or something
similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set or the
remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do
that. if its not related to the remote then there may be a faulty
switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem.
I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its more
likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if
things are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was on
when the problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it will
decide to play a tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm talking
about the button on the front panel and not the remote as I haven't
used my remote in a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few
times just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot of
repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most problems need
a service manual or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it
seems lots of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay
for parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally
but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:
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This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then wouldn't
it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
| Quote: |
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem. Seen
things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these
decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange
modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or
something similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set
or the remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into
it may do that. if its not related to the remote then there may be
a faulty switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common
problem. I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset
the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its
more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if
things are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was
on when the problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it
will decide to play a tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm
talking about the button on the front panel and not the remote as I
haven't used my remote in a few years. I've already did the
plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that wasn't the problem.
I'm just trying to figure out will this be a expensive repair since
I see a lot of repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't
most problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them
what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed labor
rate but then you have to pay for parts and I hope they don't
randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward
mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:
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Hmmm, is this going to be expensive to fix though in terms of parts costs?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2rf1Fpqsj6U1@uni-berlin.de:
| Quote: |
P.S.
JVC had lots of problems with those blister-switch and flat key-matrix
panels in similar models.
Mark Z.
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de...
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem. Seen
things
like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these
decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange
modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact
or something similar. when you say play button do you mean on
the set or the remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was
spilt into it may do that. if its not related to the remote then
there may be a faulty switch on the front panel. its certainly
not a common problem. I presume you've unplugged and plugged in
again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its
more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see
if things are working with the cover off but originally, the
cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is that
randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As for the
play button, I'm talking about the button on the front panel and
not the remote as I haven't used my remote in a few years. I've
already did the plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that
wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to figure out will this be a
expensive repair since I see a lot of repairers that aren't
factory authorized but don't most problems need a service manual
or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it seems lots
of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay
for parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally
but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward mode
again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject:
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I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may be dry
jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to cure this
yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then removing the main
board (although some models access from underneath may be possible.) Its not
easy!! Also the mains psu capacitor can retain approx 380Volts- just waiting
to shake hands with anyone who doesn't know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when turned on or
if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd symptoms may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There was a mod
to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of thing standing centre
right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily to detect if the tape is at
the beginning and then shuttle forward off it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours time
would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only an engineer
with the top off, probing around could really correctly diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
| Quote: | This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then wouldn't
it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem. Seen
things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these
decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange
modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact or
something similar. when you say play button do you mean on the set
or the remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was spilt into
it may do that. if its not related to the remote then there may be
a faulty switch on the front panel. its certainly not a common
problem. I presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset
the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss a
capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare. its
more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see if
things are working with the cover off but originally, the cover was
on when the problem happened. What is weird is that randomly, it
will decide to play a tape correctly. As for the play button, I'm
talking about the button on the front panel and not the remote as I
haven't used my remote in a few years. I've already did the
plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that wasn't the problem.
I'm just trying to figure out will this be a expensive repair since
I see a lot of repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't
most problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them
what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed labor
rate but then you have to pay for parts and I hope they don't
randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast Forward
mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vincent Poy
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject:
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I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it seems
like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just labor.
There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I know they are n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will make a
difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor located or what
does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS VCR
that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as well as
missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad capacitors but when I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused the
Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think readjusted it. It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC HR-
S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted audio and
also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be re-recorded with
the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the guy that fixed it didn't
have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
| Quote: | I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may be
dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to cure
this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then removing
the main board (although some models access from underneath may be
possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu capacitor can retain
approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands with anyone who doesn't
know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when turned
on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd symptoms
may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There was
a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of thing
standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily to
detect if the tape is at the beginning and then shuttle forward off
it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only an
engineer with the top off, probing around could really correctly
diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem.
Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these
decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange
modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact
or something similar. when you say play button do you mean on
the set or the remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was
spilt into it may do that. if its not related to the remote
then there may be a faulty switch on the front panel. its
certainly not a common problem. I presume you've unplugged and
plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss
a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare.
its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see
if things are working with the cover off but originally, the
cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is that
randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As for the
play button, I'm talking about the button on the front panel and
not the remote as I haven't used my remote in a few years. I've
already did the plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that
wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to figure out will this be a
expensive repair since I see a lot of repairers that aren't
factory authorized but don't most problems need a service manual
or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it seems lots
of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay for
parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast
Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject:
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Ok I've just researched the HRS8000. we never had that here. Its the same
mech as our HRD530 but with SVHS from 1988 ish
Forget the stuff about the sensors, thats on much more modern stuff like our
HRS7000/8600 the nearest model numbers.
Unplug it, take the bottom off, and carefully tighten the 2 or 3 small
screws fastening the green pcb's onto the bottom of the mech, it will
probably be a loose one causing a bad earth. and perhaps your symptoms. If
not then you could have numerous other things like a shorting pole on the
capstan motor etc.
Also as reported by Mark, the membrane switches can be troublesome, but
usually just inactive buttons. they gave most trouble when juices were spilt
into them!
Since this mech was used in Fergusons-UK (don't know what brand US have for
that- Thomson?) and Toshibas there should be many time served VCR tech out
there with experience so it doesn't have to be a JVC seervice centre
necessarily.
Hope this helps
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C33F3B40F4vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
| Quote: | I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it seems
like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just labor.
There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I know they are
n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will make a
difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor located or what
does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS VCR
that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as well as
missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad capacitors but when
I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused the
Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think readjusted it.
It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC HR-
S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted audio and
also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be re-recorded with
the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the guy that fixed it didn't
have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may be
dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to cure
this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then removing
the main board (although some models access from underneath may be
possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu capacitor can retain
approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands with anyone who doesn't
know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when turned
on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd symptoms
may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There was
a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of thing
standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily to
detect if the tape is at the beginning and then shuttle forward off
it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only an
engineer with the top off, probing around could really correctly
diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem.
Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side? these
decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing strange
modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty switch contact
or something similar. when you say play button do you mean on
the set or the remote. ~Its possible the remote if someting was
spilt into it may do that. if its not related to the remote
then there may be a faulty switch on the front panel. its
certainly not a common problem. I presume you've unplugged and
plugged in again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or poss
a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very rare.
its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to see
if things are working with the cover off but originally, the
cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is that
randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As for the
play button, I'm talking about the button on the front panel and
not the remote as I haven't used my remote in a few years. I've
already did the plug/unplug a few times just to make sure that
wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to figure out will this be a
expensive repair since I see a lot of repairers that aren't
factory authorized but don't most problems need a service manual
or will equipment tell them what is wrong? Since it seems lots
of places have a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay for
parts and I hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape plays
normally but then the next play, it does the same Play + Fast
Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Posted:
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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Hmm, didn't the HRS8000 came out after the HRS7000 though since they both
had the same look except the 8000 had the digital features. I'll probably
take the bottom cover off later today when I actually can get the AC cord
off as it's in a cabinet and the only way I did the unplug was to turn the
power-strip off for 1 minute.
Any ideas about the problem with the tapes from the Mitsubishi HS-U70
playing on the JVC though?
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:h0Z_c.189$5%4.150@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
| Quote: | Ok I've just researched the HRS8000. we never had that here. Its the
same mech as our HRD530 but with SVHS from 1988 ish
Forget the stuff about the sensors, thats on much more modern stuff
like our HRS7000/8600 the nearest model numbers.
Unplug it, take the bottom off, and carefully tighten the 2 or 3 small
screws fastening the green pcb's onto the bottom of the mech, it will
probably be a loose one causing a bad earth. and perhaps your
symptoms. If not then you could have numerous other things like a
shorting pole on the capstan motor etc.
Also as reported by Mark, the membrane switches can be troublesome,
but usually just inactive buttons. they gave most trouble when juices
were spilt into them!
Since this mech was used in Fergusons-UK (don't know what brand US
have for that- Thomson?) and Toshibas there should be many time served
VCR tech out there with experience so it doesn't have to be a JVC
seervice centre necessarily.
Hope this helps
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C33F3B40F4vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it
seems like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just
labor. There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I know
they are
n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will make
a difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor located
or what does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS
VCR that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as
well as missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad
capacitors but when
I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused
the Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think
readjusted it.
It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC
HR- S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted
audio and also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be
re-recorded with the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the guy
that fixed it didn't have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may
be dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to
cure this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then
removing the main board (although some models access from
underneath may be possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu
capacitor can retain approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands
with anyone who doesn't know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when
turned on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd
symptoms may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There
was a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of
thing standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily
to detect if the tape is at the beginning and then shuttle forward
off it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only
an engineer with the top off, probing around could really correctly
diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem.
Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side?
these decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing
strange modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty
switch contact or something similar. when you say play
button do you mean on the set or the remote. ~Its possible
the remote if someting was spilt into it may do that. if its
not related to the remote then there may be a faulty switch
on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem. I
presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the
machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or
poss a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very
rare. its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to
see if things are working with the cover off but originally,
the cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is
that randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As
for the play button, I'm talking about the button on the
front panel and not the remote as I haven't used my remote in
a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few times
just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot
of repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most
problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them
what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed
labor rate but then you have to pay for parts and I hope they
don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape
plays normally but then the next play, it does the same Play +
Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vincent Poy
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Posted:
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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Which 2 or 3 small screws are you referring to? I have the bottom off now
and it pretty much looks like the pics here:
http://www.studiosoundelectronics.com/mbk-42.htm
Thanks!
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:h0Z_c.189$5%4.150@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
| Quote: | Ok I've just researched the HRS8000. we never had that here. Its the
same mech as our HRD530 but with SVHS from 1988 ish
Forget the stuff about the sensors, thats on much more modern stuff
like our HRS7000/8600 the nearest model numbers.
Unplug it, take the bottom off, and carefully tighten the 2 or 3 small
screws fastening the green pcb's onto the bottom of the mech, it will
probably be a loose one causing a bad earth. and perhaps your
symptoms. If not then you could have numerous other things like a
shorting pole on the capstan motor etc.
Also as reported by Mark, the membrane switches can be troublesome,
but usually just inactive buttons. they gave most trouble when juices
were spilt into them!
Since this mech was used in Fergusons-UK (don't know what brand US
have for that- Thomson?) and Toshibas there should be many time served
VCR tech out there with experience so it doesn't have to be a JVC
seervice centre necessarily.
Hope this helps
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C33F3B40F4vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it
seems like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just
labor. There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I know
they are
n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will make
a difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor located
or what does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS
VCR that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as
well as missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad
capacitors but when
I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused
the Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think
readjusted it.
It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC
HR- S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted
audio and also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be
re-recorded with the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the guy
that fixed it didn't have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may
be dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to
cure this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then
removing the main board (although some models access from
underneath may be possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu
capacitor can retain approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands
with anyone who doesn't know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when
turned on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd
symptoms may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There
was a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of
thing standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily
to detect if the tape is at the beginning and then shuttle forward
off it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only
an engineer with the top off, probing around could really correctly
diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem.
Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side?
these decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing
strange modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty
switch contact or something similar. when you say play
button do you mean on the set or the remote. ~Its possible
the remote if someting was spilt into it may do that. if its
not related to the remote then there may be a faulty switch
on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem. I
presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the
machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or
poss a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very
rare. its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to
see if things are working with the cover off but originally,
the cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is
that randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As
for the play button, I'm talking about the button on the
front panel and not the remote as I haven't used my remote in
a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few times
just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot
of repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most
problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them
what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed
labor rate but then you have to pay for parts and I hope they
don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape
plays normally but then the next play, it does the same Play +
Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vincent Poy
Guest
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Posted:
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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Just tried fastening the two screws on the green pcb on the right hand side
of the idler motor and it didn't make a difference. So VCR's are pretty
standard in mechanisms used except the PCB circuitry in each one will be
different?
Cheers,
Vince
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C43873DACAvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
| Quote: | Which 2 or 3 small screws are you referring to? I have the bottom off
now and it pretty much looks like the pics here:
http://www.studiosoundelectronics.com/mbk-42.htm
Thanks!
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:h0Z_c.189$5%4.150@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
Ok I've just researched the HRS8000. we never had that here. Its the
same mech as our HRD530 but with SVHS from 1988 ish
Forget the stuff about the sensors, thats on much more modern stuff
like our HRS7000/8600 the nearest model numbers.
Unplug it, take the bottom off, and carefully tighten the 2 or 3
small screws fastening the green pcb's onto the bottom of the mech,
it will probably be a loose one causing a bad earth. and perhaps your
symptoms. If not then you could have numerous other things like a
shorting pole on the capstan motor etc.
Also as reported by Mark, the membrane switches can be troublesome,
but usually just inactive buttons. they gave most trouble when juices
were spilt into them!
Since this mech was used in Fergusons-UK (don't know what brand US
have for that- Thomson?) and Toshibas there should be many time
served VCR tech out there with experience so it doesn't have to be a
JVC seervice centre necessarily.
Hope this helps
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C33F3B40F4vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it
seems like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just
labor. There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I
know they are
n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will
make a difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor
located or what does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS
VCR that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as
well as missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad
capacitors but when
I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused
the Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think
readjusted it.
It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC
HR- S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted
audio and also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be
re-recorded with the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the
guy that fixed it didn't have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may
be dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to
cure this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then
removing the main board (although some models access from
underneath may be possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu
capacitor can retain approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands
with anyone who doesn't know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when
turned on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd
symptoms may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There
was a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of
thing standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is
primarily to detect if the tape is at the beginning and then
shuttle forward off it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only
an engineer with the top off, probing around could really
correctly diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a
problem. Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side?
these decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into
doing strange modes with light otherwise sounds like a
faulty switch contact or something similar. when you say
play button do you mean on the set or the remote. ~Its
possible the remote if someting was spilt into it may do
that. if its not related to the remote then there may be a
faulty switch on the front panel. its certainly not a
common problem. I presume you've unplugged and plugged in
again to reset the machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or
poss a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very
rare. its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to
see if things are working with the cover off but originally,
the cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird
is that randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly.
As for the play button, I'm talking about the button on the
front panel and not the remote as I haven't used my remote
in a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few
times just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just
trying to figure out will this be a expensive repair since I
see a lot of repairers that aren't factory authorized but
don't most problems need a service manual or will equipment
tell them what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have
a fixed labor rate but then you have to pay for parts and I
hope they don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape
plays normally but then the next play, it does the same Play +
Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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JVC Dude
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Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Help with JVC HR-S8000U SuperVHS VCR |
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check your Email
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C43873DACAvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
| Quote: | Which 2 or 3 small screws are you referring to? I have the bottom off now
and it pretty much looks like the pics here:
http://www.studiosoundelectronics.com/mbk-42.htm
Thanks!
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:h0Z_c.189$5%4.150@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
Ok I've just researched the HRS8000. we never had that here. Its the
same mech as our HRD530 but with SVHS from 1988 ish
Forget the stuff about the sensors, thats on much more modern stuff
like our HRS7000/8600 the nearest model numbers.
Unplug it, take the bottom off, and carefully tighten the 2 or 3 small
screws fastening the green pcb's onto the bottom of the mech, it will
probably be a loose one causing a bad earth. and perhaps your
symptoms. If not then you could have numerous other things like a
shorting pole on the capstan motor etc.
Also as reported by Mark, the membrane switches can be troublesome,
but usually just inactive buttons. they gave most trouble when juices
were spilt into them!
Since this mech was used in Fergusons-UK (don't know what brand US
have for that- Thomson?) and Toshibas there should be many time served
VCR tech out there with experience so it doesn't have to be a JVC
seervice centre necessarily.
Hope this helps
AW
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C33F3B40F4vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
I didn't realize you were in Europe but from what you're saying, it
seems like it doesn't really need any parts replaced but rather just
labor. There is a place locally that charges $US35 + labor but I know
they are
n't
factory authorized and I wonder if being factory authorized will make
a difference or not. Where exactly is the right hand sensor located
or what does it look like?
Since you might be familar with this, I had a Mitsubishi HS-U70 SVHS
VCR that failed a few years back and it had like missing audio as
well as missing color and the problem seemed to have been bad
capacitors but when
I
shipped the thing to be repaired, it was fixed but shipping caused
the Control Audio Head to not be aligned and the guy I think
readjusted it.
It
will play any tapes it records but when I take the tape to the JVC
HR- S8000U, it will only show scrolling black & white with distorted
audio and also, any tape that the Mitsubishi recorded on can't be
re-recorded with the JVC, is this just a alignment problem as the guy
that fixed it didn't have the factory jig for proper alignment.
Cheers,
Vince
"JVC Dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:S4Y_c.177$5%4.88@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
I would suspect that the soldering under the right hand sensor may
be dry jointed .
If you aren't familiar with repairing equipment then don't try to
cure this yourself, since it involves stripping the deck out, then
removing the main board (although some models access from
underneath may be possible.) Its not easy!! Also the mains psu
capacitor can retain approx 380Volts- just waiting to shake hands
with anyone who doesn't know wheres safe and wheres not!
Your supposition is correct re the FF button it would FF when
turned on or if 2 buttons are effectively pressed, then other odd
symptoms may occur.
Remember as I said these units are very sensitive to light. There
was a mod to cover the right sensor (a slim 2" black LED type of
thing standing centre right of the mechanism)- its use is primarily
to detect if the tape is at the beginning and then shuttle forward
off it.
As to what you should pay, I would think £30-£40 to cover an hours
time would be typical- however it may not be this sensor and only
an engineer with the top off, probing around could really correctly
diagnose this.
Andrew
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C252427CFEvinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
This VCR doesn't have a jog wheel. If if was the FF button then
wouldn't it FF even in the stop position?
Cheers,
Vince
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in
news:2q2r5dForp01U1@uni-berlin.de:
Sounds to me like the FF button or jog wheel may have a problem.
Seen things like this before.
Mark Z.
"Vincent Poy" <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in message
news:Xns955C1236F8091vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154...
Vincent Poy <vince@WURLDLINK.NET.noSPAM> wrote in
news:Xns955C10477773vinceWURLDLINKNET@208.201.224.154:
"JVC dude" <wilkinsons.hifi@talk21.com> wrote in
news:413c1913$0$49773$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net:
Hi Vincent,
Is there a lot of light getting in through the top/side?
these decks have optic sensors and can be tripped into doing
strange modes with light otherwise sounds like a faulty
switch contact or something similar. when you say play
button do you mean on the set or the remote. ~Its possible
the remote if someting was spilt into it may do that. if its
not related to the remote then there may be a faulty switch
on the front panel. its certainly not a common problem. I
presume you've unplugged and plugged in again to reset the
machine!
Other possible causes, dirty mode switch contacts, or
poss a capstan motor control fault , but that would be very
rare. its more likely to be one of the above.
hope this helps
AW
Hi AW:
Right now, there has to be a lot of light as I was trying to
see if things are working with the cover off but originally,
the cover was on when the problem happened. What is weird is
that randomly, it will decide to play a tape correctly. As
for the play button, I'm talking about the button on the
front panel and not the remote as I haven't used my remote in
a few years. I've already did the plug/unplug a few times
just to make sure that wasn't the problem. I'm just trying to
figure out will this be a expensive repair since I see a lot
of repairers that aren't factory authorized but don't most
problems need a service manual or will equipment tell them
what is wrong? Since it seems lots of places have a fixed
labor rate but then you have to pay for parts and I hope they
don't randomly change out parts.
Cheers,
Vince
I just put the cover back on and the first play of the tape
plays normally but then the next play, it does the same Play +
Fast Forward mode again.
Cheers,
Vince
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