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Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject:
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"GMAN" <glenzabr@nospamallowed.xmission.com> wrote in message
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"David Matthew Wood" <nodmwood78@mindspringspam.com> wrote in message
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Hello, emzeperiks!
You wrote on Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:07:06 -0400:
e> JVC HR-S8960EU (model year:2003)
ONLY JVC and nothing more! If You really wish 2 have one of the best
S-VHS
VCR You should chose only JVC. No more brands produce really
high-quality
SVHS VCRS with lot of functions except JVC.
With best regards, Boris Kassiantchouk.
Heh it's funny how much quality difference there is in one brand from
country to country. I suppose in Russia (and probably the country
where
the original poster is from), JVC is a great brand. But here in the
USA, it sucks sucks sucks!
Totally untrue. My JVC S-VHS HR-S3900U performs beautifully, with almost
daily useage, and its almost two years old. My 1987/88 (?) S-VHS Zenith
VRE550HF still works perfectly after almost 20 years, with only normal
maintenance. It too was made by JVC for Zenith. EVERY JVC product I've
owned, from VCR to car audio, has never failed me.
Deke
Glad your works fine but the 3900 series is a bottom of the line model !!!
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Correct. And it works perfectly. I might also add I have two D-VHS
machines with built in Dish Network recievers, built by JVC, and they
perform beautifully also.
One is 7 years old, the other is 4 years old, both the same model,
HM-DSR100. Using high grade S-VHS tapes, they make perfect digital tapes,
and have had nothing done to them except cleaning.
I'd buy another JVC machine in a New York minute.
About the tape wrinkling problem, I assume that everyone knows that a new
tape requires excercising before use. Fast forward it to the end, then
rewind to adjust the tape tension in the tape shell to suit the machine.
This should also be done when playing tapes recorded on another machine.
And it goes without saying that bargain tapes at The Dollar Store are
worth exactly what you pay for them.
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arthur wouk
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject:
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In article <cem5gr$veg$1@news.xmission.com>,
GMAN <glenzabr@nospamallowed.xmission.com> wrote:
:In article <410E8D40.79A45639@home.com>, ric <nospam@home.com> wrote:
:>GMAN wrote:
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:>> >ONLY JVC and nothing more! If You really wish 2 have one of the best S-VHS
:>> >VCR You should chose only JVC. No more brands produce really high-quality
:>> >SVHS VCRS with lot of functions except JVC.
:>> >
:>> >With best regards, Boris Kassiantchouk.
:>> >
:>> >
:>> Um, Mitsubishi does!!!
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:>Mitsubishi doesn't serve his market.
:True, but thats not what he was asking. The poster made the blanket statement
:that NO-ONE makes high quality vcr's anymore, Mitsubishi does have a few top
:models.
but try to find them on the american market! the best you can do is an
ebay auction.
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- jules feifer
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ric
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject:
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arthur wouk wrote:
| Quote: | :>Mitsubishi doesn't serve his market.
:True, but thats not what he was asking. The poster made the blanket statement
:that NO-ONE makes high quality vcr's anymore, Mitsubishi does have a few top
:models.
but try to find them on the american market! the best you can do is an
ebay auction.
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Did you try my suggestions? |
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arthur wouk
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:17 am Post subject:
Re: Buying an S-VHS VCR - any recommendations? |
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In article <410FDEF6.77C157C9@home.com>, ric <nospam@home.com> wrote:
:arthur wouk wrote:
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:> :>Mitsubishi doesn't serve his market.
:> :True, but thats not what he was asking. The poster made the blanket
:statement
:> :that NO-ONE makes high quality vcr's anymore, Mitsubishi does have a few top
:> :models.
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:> but try to find them on the american market! the best you can do is an
:> ebay auction.
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:Did you try my suggestions?
yes. didn't work. dealers can't find them (and they can search the
manufacturer's files, i assume). there is one up on ebay at the moment
that i am looking at.
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LASERandDVDfan
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:48 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I never said ALL engineers. Obviously, like in any field, there are good
ones and bad ones.
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Then you should never have made such a generalization in the first place. Next
time, specify "some engineers" instead of going out of the blue and saying that
"Japanese engineers" are bad. Such a declaration implies that all Japanese
engineers are bad.
| Quote: | I guess in Japan no one loses remotes and they never
break.
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There you go again, with a general and absolute claim.
| Quote: | I just may have to do that but I get Panasonic decks at wholesale so
what the heck, I'll learn to live with it.
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Part of learning to live with it is to quit your belly-aching and just do it.
| Quote: | I agree to some point. But blame the electronic companies for not having
the insight to work together on at least some of the formats.
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Meanwhile, there are Sony DVD recorders that records on all DVD formats except
DVD-RAM.
| Quote: | Our company sold so many Panasonic VCR's I couldn't count them.
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So that's why you have such a bias for Panasonic products. The company that
you work for is a dealer.
| Quote: | If you want to talk about bad caps, let's talk about Sony VCR's made in
the 1990's
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But, the thing is, once you replace the caps, the VCR ends up being all right.
Also, not all models were affected, only models that used Elna LongLife
capacitors in the power supplies. The Elna LongLife caps aren't cheap, but
they had a design flaw that Elna, not Sony, was responsibe for. Later builds
of the power supply used Matsushita caps and don't suffer from this problem.
The Panasonics, on the other hand, all you need is another good enough surge
and BAM, the machine is back in the shop requiring the same repairs.
Quite frankly, the Sony power supply, once the capacitor issue is addressed, is
far more robust and reliable than the Panasonic series 1000.
Mind you, I am talking about VHS and S-VHS decks. The series 1000 isn't used
in any other format of Panasonic deck.
| Quote: | Sony pinch roller for PVW-2800: $65. Panasonic PR for broadcast deck:
$28.00
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You specified a BetacamSP VCR for the Sony, but you just say "broadcast deck"
for the Panasonic. This means that you could be citing a price for a part used
in a Panasonic S-VHS deck, for all I would know.
| Quote: | Sony manual for 2800: $1100+ (and in all kinds of inconvenient
sections). Panasonic manual for broadcast VCR: $175.00
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Models, please?
| Quote: | Speaking of other brands - I think it was Phillips that came out with a
DVD stand-alone recorder in which to JUST simply change the recording
speed you had to push a sequence of 16 buttons on the remote
control!!!!!
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So, now you understand that it's not just the Japanese?
You do know that Philips is Dutch, yes? - Reinhart |
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ric
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:04 am Post subject:
Re: Buying an S-VHS VCR - any recommendations? |
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arthur wouk wrote:
| Quote: | :Did you try my suggestions?
yes. didn't work. dealers can't find them (and they can search the
manufacturer's files, i assume). there is one up on ebay at the moment
that i am looking at.
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Gee. Must be a regional thing. The dealer three blocks from me has a
U448 (demo), U449, U748, & U778 in stock. The year 2004-2005 product
line has only the U449 & U748, however. So hurry!
Do they have the HS-HD2000U? |
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arthur wouk
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Buying an S-VHS VCR - any recommendations? |
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In article <4110603C.EFC91919@home.com>, ric <nospam@home.com> wrote:
:arthur wouk wrote:
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:> :Did you try my suggestions?
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:> yes. didn't work. dealers can't find them (and they can search the
:> manufacturer's files, i assume). there is one up on ebay at the moment
:> that i am looking at.
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:Gee. Must be a regional thing. The dealer three blocks from me has a
:U448 (demo), U449, U748, & U778 in stock. The year 2004-2005 product
:line has only the U449 & U748, however. So hurry!
:
:Do they have the HS-HD2000U?
no nothing locally. what is the name, address and phone number of the dealer?
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- jules feifer
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GMAN
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Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:55 am Post subject:
Re: Buying an S-VHS VCR - any recommendations? |
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In article <%DNPc.399$qB1.105@fe25.usenetserver.com>, "Deke" <denkell@starband.com> wrote:
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"GMAN" <glenzabr@nospamallowed.xmission.com> wrote in message
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In article <aFvOc.154$qB1.64@fe25.usenetserver.com>, "Deke"
denkell@starband.com> wrote:
"David Matthew Wood" <nodmwood78@mindspringspam.com> wrote in message
news:nodmwood78-6E4FA0.01445730072004@news04.east.earthlink.net...
Hello, emzeperiks!
You wrote on Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:07:06 -0400:
e> JVC HR-S8960EU (model year:2003)
ONLY JVC and nothing more! If You really wish 2 have one of the best
S-VHS
VCR You should chose only JVC. No more brands produce really
high-quality
SVHS VCRS with lot of functions except JVC.
With best regards, Boris Kassiantchouk.
Heh it's funny how much quality difference there is in one brand from
country to country. I suppose in Russia (and probably the country
where
the original poster is from), JVC is a great brand. But here in the
USA, it sucks sucks sucks!
Totally untrue. My JVC S-VHS HR-S3900U performs beautifully, with almost
daily useage, and its almost two years old. My 1987/88 (?) S-VHS Zenith
VRE550HF still works perfectly after almost 20 years, with only normal
maintenance. It too was made by JVC for Zenith. EVERY JVC product I've
owned, from VCR to car audio, has never failed me.
Deke
Glad your works fine but the 3900 series is a bottom of the line model !!!
Correct. And it works perfectly. I might also add I have two D-VHS
machines with built in Dish Network recievers, built by JVC, and they
perform beautifully also.
One is 7 years old, the other is 4 years old, both the same model,
HM-DSR100. Using high grade S-VHS tapes, they make perfect digital tapes,
and have had nothing done to them except cleaning.
I'd buy another JVC machine in a New York minute.
About the tape wrinkling problem, I assume that everyone knows that a new
tape requires excercising before use. Fast forward it to the end, then
rewind to adjust the tape tension in the tape shell to suit the machine.
This should also be done when playing tapes recorded on another machine.
And it goes without saying that bargain tapes at The Dollar Store are
worth exactly what you pay for them.
Deke
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Ron
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:18 am Post subject:
Re: Help with Sony SLV-R5UC capacitors |
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| Quote: | "LASERandDVDfan" <laseranddvdfan@aol.com> wrote in message
As for your picture problems, it may still be related to substandard
caps in the power supply. A marginal power supply can cause all
sorts of quirky symptoms.
Good luck and let us know how everything goes. - Reinhart
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I changed more Elna caps on the PI-20 selector switch board,
and all the other caps left on the power supply board, but the
problem is the same. All the PS voltages check out ok except
for the UNSWITCHED -30V measurement, which is -33.7V
(-37.5V when ON), instead of the specified -27.5V +2.5/-3V.
The funny thing is that the unit RECORDS perfectly in SP, not
great, but watchable in EP, and great again in S-EP (I can also
play back the recorded tape perfectly on another VCR).
It also PLAYS back S-EP flawlessly, N-EP is not great, but
watchable, but there is no playback picture now at all in S-SP
or N-SP, either when recorded with the R5, or when recorded
from another VCR.
Looks like this is a problem unique to my unit, and not one
of the more common problems most other R5 owners have
experienced. -Ron |
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Amishman35
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:30 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I guess in Japan no one loses remotes and they never
break.
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Boy, this guy can really hit nails right on the head! |
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NeoRenegade
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:10 am Post subject:
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LASERandDVDfan wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, very much so, but that is not the point.
On the contrary, it is very much the point.
Take a VCR from 1989 and compare it to a VCR from now. Even with coax
connections, it's better on the vintage deck.
It all boils down to common
sense, something many Jap engineers are severely lacking.
I find your use of the word "Jap" to be very discrimatory, like calling someone
of African descent a "nigger."
World War II has been over for decades.
Besides that, your claim of Japanese engineers lacking "common sense" is also
very inaccurate. I have seen, used, and repaired some very competently
designed equipment from Japan, so your argument doesn't have much in the way of
merit, IMO. Your claim makes too broad a generalization that is simply wrong.
I remember some
VCR's from back in the 80s or 90s that had the same connector problem.
I tend to disagree, unless you are talking about some low-cost VCRs, like the
stuff from Emerson, which were designed by Orion, a firm that was based in
Hungary.
I view your post and it seems to reek more of Japan-bashing than being
something that's truly informative. - Reinhart
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I agree. Actually, I'm annoyed by my VCR's co-ax connectors' location.
It's just like you said - all the way near the edge, right beside a
ridge. What's my VCR? Sony? Hitachi? JVC?
Nope. *RCA*
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NeoRenegade
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:01 am Post subject:
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LASERandDVDfan wrote:
| Quote: | Sony and JVC professional decks are superior to Panasonic pro decks in so many
ways that I am sometimes dumbfounded why anyone would consider a Panasonic deck
over the others for professional applications. There are few notable
exceptions, such as the Panasonic AG-1980. - Reinhart
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After my experience with a JVC CD deck and a JVC stereo system, I'm
boycotting. The CD player cannot play certain CD's, displaying 00:00:00
when it can't read one. The stereo system has the same CD problem, and
the tape deck has never worked (insert a tape and the door will jam,
followed by the mechanism clicking incessantly). This is after only 3
years of *light* use. Yes, after 3 years of *light* use, the only thing
this $250 stereo system is good for now is AM/FM radio and auxiliary
hookup, which you'd expect to work on *any* cheap setup.
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NeoRenegade
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:25 am Post subject:
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ric wrote:
| Quote: | HankG wrote:
I am hopeful that there are highly technically oriented people in this group
who can shed light on whether current analog equipment will be able to
record analog and future digital tv after the DRM signals are incorporated
into the video signal.
Analog equipment built today doesn't react to the digital flag that is
embedded in digital video signals. But then again, today's analog video
recorders won't record *any* digital video.
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It will be a simple matter of getting a converter of the type one would
use to watch HDTV on a typical TV, but to instead route the signal
through a macrovision-killer and into your VCR. Finding or building a
macrovision killer is the tough part.
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NeoRenegade
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Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:27 am Post subject:
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ric wrote:
| Quote: | HankG wrote:
I am hopeful that there are highly technically oriented people in this group
who can shed light on whether current analog equipment will be able to
record analog and future digital tv after the DRM signals are incorporated
into the video signal.
Analog equipment built today doesn't react to the digital flag that is
embedded in digital video signals. But then again, today's analog video
recorders won't record *any* digital video.
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.... On the other hand, the industry giants might just be too arrogant to
bother with macrovision on top of the DRM, so you may be lucky and get
by for 99% of programming with just the converter.
- NR |
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