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Tim Williams
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Well, you can get the electrons traveling at around 20%
the speed of light inside a CRT....

Er, the COMMON laws of physics. :^) Yes, you're staring at relatively
relativistic electrons!

Tim

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Chris Hornbeck
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:59:22 GMT, robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
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Well, you can get the electrons traveling at around 20%
the speed of light inside a CRT....

They even have relativistic mass gains in the one or two
digit range. Right here in River City.

Chris Hornbeck
"someone might think it's more valuable in the future than he did
in the pasture." -Mike Rivers
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robert casey
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

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I like "relativistic" because it means something whose velocity is Really.
Fucking. High. Within 10% of light speed, namely. The laws of physics
don't apply at this point

Well, you can get the electrons traveling at around 20%
the speed of light inside a CRT....
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Gregg
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

Behold, Tim Williams signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

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"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:uWkHd.2868$PA2.1864@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Well, you can get the electrons traveling at around 20% the speed of
light inside a CRT....

Er, the COMMON laws of physics. :^) Yes, you're staring at relatively
relativistic electrons!

Tim

Better explination:

relativistic = the speed the taxman wants your money

1/relativistic = the speed your tax return comes

;-)

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Gregg t3h g33k
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John Stewart
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

Tim Williams wrote:



Like the ancient Greeks we have here lots of talk but no action. When is someone
going to stop talking, get off his ass, pick up the soldering iron & build one?
Then get us some test results so this idea can go forward or be cast aside?

Smiles. A lot!!!

Cheers, John Stewart
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Patrick Turner
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

John Stewart wrote:

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Tim Williams wrote:

Like the ancient Greeks we have here lots of talk but no action. When is someone
going to stop talking, get off his ass, pick up the soldering iron & build one?
Then get us some test results so this idea can go forward or be cast aside?

Smiles. A lot!!!

Cheers, John Stewart

There is no action because we simply don't need to do a thing;
everyone finds that a simpler cascade gain circuits are all that's needed.
Why would one use so many bits and pieces of NFB loops to get
relavoltastic output impudence around a pentode....

Audio Research are renowned for ginormungous gobulations of
NFB around tube circuits, and its amazing they never used a
mu-folbuxterator pentroid circuit as has bee suggested.

Maybe when we are all 90, and still can solder, and all the triodes are used up,
we'll turn to the last remaining stocks of pentoads.

Patrick Turner.
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Fred Gilham
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Reverse Mu (not for Mu Ron) Reply with quote

robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> writes:

Quote:
I like "relativistic" because it means something whose velocity is Really.
Fucking. High. Within 10% of light speed, namely. The laws of physics
don't apply at this point

Well, you can get the electrons traveling at around 20%
the speed of light inside a CRT....

I just learned something amazing (to me) the other day. Fusion in
your basement using vacuum tube technology. Millions of neutrons per
second. Of course, nowhere near break-even.

It was invented by Philo T. Farnsworth. It was called a "fusor". It
works using two spherical grids, the outer positive and the inner
negative. With a gassy vacuum and a high enough voltage, you get a
plasma (like a glow discharge) and if the plasma consists of duterium,
you get fusion because the ions are attracted to the inner grid. They
mostly miss it and smash into each other in the middle, and since many
of the collisions are head-on, a lot of fusion happens. What's more,
if they miss, they just shoot out and then get attracted back for
another try at it.

There is even an "open source" web site! :-) http://fusor.net

Apparently the big problem is that too many of the ions hit the inner
grid.

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Fred Gilham gilham @ csl . sri . com
King Christ, this world is all aleak, / And life preservers there are none,
And waves that only He may walk / Who dared to call Himself a man.
-- e. e. cummings, from Jehovah Buried, Satan Dead
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