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Al
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject:
Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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I admit it. I love my TiVo boxes. They do exactly what they are supposed
to do with almost no hassle. The other day, one of them had to be rebooted,
but I think that was the first time in over 30 box-months of viewing.
Now Snapstream's Beyond TV is another matter entirely. I am sure they are
good and talented people, but the simple fact is that their software has to
run on a variety of Microsoft operating systems and on a wide range of
hardware configurations. I am not surprised that it is less reliable, more
bug-filled, and and basically a bigger headache than TiVo.
I tried to record something last night on BTV because my two TiVo boxes were
otherwise engaged. When I checked on the recording, it had frozen about
two-thirds of the way through, and I had to power off the box. Luckily, it
wasn't something that I really cared about, and in general that is all I
used the BTV scheduled recording function for, things I don't really care
about BECAUSE IT IS SO UNRELIABLE. With TiVo, I have over a 99% success
ratio, and if there is a problem, it is usually because the guide data is
wrong.
Now that there are DVD recorders with TiVo functionality, I don't see any
reason to build your own PVR since you can get to the digital recordings
directly, unless you are super concerned about privacy and enjoy spending
hours of your time debugging software and using a MUCH inferior remote
control.
BTW, I upgraded to BTV 3.5 thinking that would help. It has been nothing
but trouble, and I had to downgrade back to 3.4. Compare this with the zero
work involved with every TiVo upgrade.
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Chris Phillipo
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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In article <TaSdnTKQ3KLb_efcRVn-vw@rcn.net>, no@email.com says...
| Quote: | Subject: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest
From: "Al" <no@email.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, alt.video.ptv.tivo
I admit it. I love my TiVo boxes. They do exactly what they are supposed
to do with almost no hassle. The other day, one of them had to be rebooted,
but I think that was the first time in over 30 box-months of viewing.
Now Snapstream's Beyond TV is another matter entirely. I am sure they are
good and talented people, but the simple fact is that their software has to
run on a variety of Microsoft operating systems and on a wide range of
hardware configurations. I am not surprised that it is less reliable, more
bug-filled, and and basically a bigger headache than TiVo.
I tried to record something last night on BTV because my two TiVo boxes were
otherwise engaged. When I checked on the recording, it had frozen about
two-thirds of the way through, and I had to power off the box. Luckily, it
wasn't something that I really cared about, and in general that is all I
used the BTV scheduled recording function for, things I don't really care
about BECAUSE IT IS SO UNRELIABLE. With TiVo, I have over a 99% success
ratio, and if there is a problem, it is usually because the guide data is
wrong.
Now that there are DVD recorders with TiVo functionality, I don't see any
reason to build your own PVR since you can get to the digital recordings
directly, unless you are super concerned about privacy and enjoy spending
hours of your time debugging software and using a MUCH inferior remote
control.
BTW, I upgraded to BTV 3.5 thinking that would help. It has been nothing
but trouble, and I had to downgrade back to 3.4. Compare this with the zero
work involved with every TiVo upgrade.
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Download SageTV and give it a try, it has some querks too but the uptime
on my machine is 4 months of about 8 hours a day of recording plus
playing all types of downloaded video files, it has never missed a
recording except when the TV schedule from the provider was incorrect
and it works more like a Tivo in that it is always recording what you
are watching even as you flip channels back and forth. I'm also playing
with GBPVR but I could never get it to change channels on my satelite
box so it's only good to me for cable.
--
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com |
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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| Quote: | Download SageTV and give it a try, it has some querks too but the uptime
on my machine is 4 months of about 8 hours a day of recording plus
playing all types of downloaded video files, it has never missed a
recording except when the TV schedule from the provider was incorrect
and it works more like a Tivo in that it is always recording what you
are watching even as you flip channels back and forth. I'm also playing
with GBPVR but I could never get it to change channels on my satelite
box so it's only good to me for cable.
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Chris... Im curious as to what type of "monitor" you
watch your PVR output on.
Do you use nothing but computer monitors? Or do you
have some standard TVs as well?
If yes on the standard TVs.... what band and model and
size? |
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Chris Phillipo
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Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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In article <ejvkn05a5rdo7172m01ippl2h16jp2tc19@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
says...
| Quote: | Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, alt.video.ptv.tivo
Download SageTV and give it a try, it has some querks too but the uptime
on my machine is 4 months of about 8 hours a day of recording plus
playing all types of downloaded video files, it has never missed a
recording except when the TV schedule from the provider was incorrect
and it works more like a Tivo in that it is always recording what you
are watching even as you flip channels back and forth. I'm also playing
with GBPVR but I could never get it to change channels on my satelite
box so it's only good to me for cable.
Chris... Im curious as to what type of "monitor" you
watch your PVR output on.
Do you use nothing but computer monitors? Or do you
have some standard TVs as well?
If yes on the standard TVs.... what band and model and
size?
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I have an old Magnasonic 25" TV hooked up via composite out on the ATI
9200SE card, I hope to get a 32" with s-video input someday, but money
keeps getting spend on other things :) I have a PVR-350, although the
picture from the TV out on this card is superior to the ATI card, I
don't use it much lately because I watch a lot of downloaded Divx video
which won't play on it and I'm too lazy to switch the cable between the
two cards anymore :).
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com |
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Al
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| Posted:
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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"Chris Phillipo" <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1be44c42a03a0d0698a766@news.eastlink.ca...
| Quote: | In article <TaSdnTKQ3KLb_efcRVn-vw@rcn.net>, no@email.com says...
Subject: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest
From: "Al" <no@email.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, alt.video.ptv.tivo
I admit it. I love my TiVo boxes. They do exactly what they are
supposed
to do with almost no hassle. The other day, one of them had to be
rebooted,
but I think that was the first time in over 30 box-months of viewing.
Now Snapstream's Beyond TV is another matter entirely. I am sure they
are
good and talented people, but the simple fact is that their software has
to
run on a variety of Microsoft operating systems and on a wide range of
hardware configurations. I am not surprised that it is less reliable,
more
bug-filled, and and basically a bigger headache than TiVo.
I tried to record something last night on BTV because my two TiVo boxes
were
otherwise engaged. When I checked on the recording, it had frozen about
two-thirds of the way through, and I had to power off the box. Luckily,
it
wasn't something that I really cared about, and in general that is all I
used the BTV scheduled recording function for, things I don't really
care
about BECAUSE IT IS SO UNRELIABLE. With TiVo, I have over a 99% success
ratio, and if there is a problem, it is usually because the guide data
is
wrong.
Now that there are DVD recorders with TiVo functionality, I don't see
any
reason to build your own PVR since you can get to the digital recordings
directly, unless you are super concerned about privacy and enjoy
spending
hours of your time debugging software and using a MUCH inferior remote
control.
BTW, I upgraded to BTV 3.5 thinking that would help. It has been
nothing
but trouble, and I had to downgrade back to 3.4. Compare this with the
zero
work involved with every TiVo upgrade.
Download SageTV and give it a try, it has some querks too but the uptime
on my machine is 4 months of about 8 hours a day of recording plus
playing all types of downloaded video files, it has never missed a
recording except when the TV schedule from the provider was incorrect
and it works more like a Tivo in that it is always recording what you
are watching even as you flip channels back and forth. I'm also playing
with GBPVR but I could never get it to change channels on my satelite
box so it's only good to me for cable.
--
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I will probably stick with the devil I know.
Maybe when they release 3.51 it will be more stable.
BTW, I see that you don't want Google to archive your posts. Do you mind me
asking why? |
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MegaZone
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| Posted:
Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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"Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | In the headers for his posting,
X-No-Archive: yes
is found.
I believe that's it.
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Correct.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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<URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
<URL:http://www.megazone.org/> <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris |
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david.mccall
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| Posted:
Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:31 am Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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"Al" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:HuydnfKPwtnUy-DcRVn-hg@rcn.net...
| Quote: |
"Chris Phillipo" <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1be44c42a03a0d0698a766@news.eastlink.ca...
In article <TaSdnTKQ3KLb_efcRVn-vw@rcn.net>, no@email.com says...
Subject: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest
From: "Al" <no@email.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, alt.video.ptv.tivo
I admit it. I love my TiVo boxes. They do exactly what they are
supposed
to do with almost no hassle. The other day, one of them had to be
rebooted,
but I think that was the first time in over 30 box-months of viewing.
Now Snapstream's Beyond TV is another matter entirely. I am sure they
are
good and talented people, but the simple fact is that their software
has
to
run on a variety of Microsoft operating systems and on a wide range of
hardware configurations. I am not surprised that it is less reliable,
more
bug-filled, and and basically a bigger headache than TiVo.
I tried to record something last night on BTV because my two TiVo boxes
were
otherwise engaged. When I checked on the recording, it had frozen
about
two-thirds of the way through, and I had to power off the box.
Luckily,
it
wasn't something that I really cared about, and in general that is all
I
used the BTV scheduled recording function for, things I don't really
care
about BECAUSE IT IS SO UNRELIABLE. With TiVo, I have over a 99%
success
ratio, and if there is a problem, it is usually because the guide data
is
wrong.
Now that there are DVD recorders with TiVo functionality, I don't see
any
reason to build your own PVR since you can get to the digital
recordings
directly, unless you are super concerned about privacy and enjoy
spending
hours of your time debugging software and using a MUCH inferior remote
control.
BTW, I upgraded to BTV 3.5 thinking that would help. It has been
nothing
but trouble, and I had to downgrade back to 3.4. Compare this with the
zero
work involved with every TiVo upgrade.
Download SageTV and give it a try, it has some querks too but the uptime
on my machine is 4 months of about 8 hours a day of recording plus
playing all types of downloaded video files, it has never missed a
recording except when the TV schedule from the provider was incorrect
and it works more like a Tivo in that it is always recording what you
are watching even as you flip channels back and forth. I'm also playing
with GBPVR but I could never get it to change channels on my satellite
box so it's only good to me for cable.
--
Thanks for the suggestion, but I will probably stick with the devil I
know.
Maybe when they release 3.51 it will be more stable.
BTW, I see that you don't want Google to archive your posts. Do you mind
me
asking why?
How could you tell |
David |
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Gene E. Bloch
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Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:59 am Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in
news:vVgfd.305992$MQ5.74410@attbi_s52:
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"Al" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:HuydnfKPwtnUy-DcRVn-hg@rcn.net...
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<snippage>
| Quote: | BTW, I see that you don't want Google to archive your posts. Do
you mind me
asking why?
How could you tell
David
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In the headers for his posting,
X-No-Archive: yes
is found.
I believe that's it.
(You have to display all headers, however your news reader does
that.)
HTH and HTIC Hope This Is Correct :-)
Gino
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Call me letters find me at domain blochg whose dot is com |
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david.mccall
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| Posted:
Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:52 am Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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"MegaZone" <newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org> wrote in message
news:megazone.1098754867@sidehack.sat.gweep.net...
| Quote: | "Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> shaped the electrons to say:
In the headers for his posting,
X-No-Archive: yes
is found.
I believe that's it.
Correct.
Thanks |
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MegaZone
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| Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> shaped the electrons to say:
| Quote: | Because I get a big enough boatload of spam as it is.
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Do what I do:
1. Create an email address used only for posting. If I start getting
too much SPAM I delete it and create a new one.
2. Add a little obfusction so humans can cope, but harvesting scripts
don't do so well.
:-)
I actually have different posting addresses depending on the news
hierarchy I'm posting to - easy enough to do using trn and Pnews on
UNIX.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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<URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
<URL:http://www.megazone.org/> <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris |
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Chris Phillipo
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| Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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In article <HuydnfKPwtnUy-DcRVn-hg@rcn.net>, no@email.com says...
| Quote: | Thanks for the suggestion, but I will probably stick with the devil I know.
Maybe when they release 3.51 it will be more stable.
BTW, I see that you don't want Google to archive your posts. Do you mind me
asking why?
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Because I get a big enough boatload of spam as it is.
--
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com |
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Chris Phillipo
Guest
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| Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:31 pm Post subject:
Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest |
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In article <megazone.1098892536@sidehack.sat.gweep.net>,
newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org says...
| Quote: | Subject: Re: Snapstream BTV Bitch Fest
From: newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org (MegaZone)
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, alt.video.ptv.tivo
Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> shaped the electrons to say:
Because I get a big enough boatload of spam as it is.
Do what I do:
1. Create an email address used only for posting. If I start getting
too much SPAM I delete it and create a new one.
2. Add a little obfusction so humans can cope, but harvesting scripts
don't do so well.
:-)
I actually have different posting addresses depending on the news
hierarchy I'm posting to - easy enough to do using trn and Pnews on
UNIX.
-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/> <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris
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I figure if mail bouncing because you didn't notice that little tweak in
their address annoys people half as much as it does me then I'm not
going to do it to them. I have filters taking care of most spam, it's
almost comical the amount that comes in these days. I used to actively
report it but now I just let it die in the trash bin, never having been
seen by human eyes :)
--
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com |
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