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Luis ORTEGA
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:06 pm Post subject:
hard drive capacity not recognized |
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I just put a 20 gig hard drive on an asus p3b-f motherboard and it reports
that the size is only 8 gigs.
Actually, it says in the bios:
CHS capacity 8422 mb
max LBA capacity 20496 mb
Can anyone please advise what I need to do to have the whole drive size
recognized?
I also wanted to install an 80 gig hard drive on the system, but I'm holding
off until I get this problem resolved.
Thanks for any help.
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nappy-iou
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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looks like the BIOS is pretty old. Might be outof luck unless you can update
it
"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I just put a 20 gig hard drive on an asus p3b-f motherboard and it reports
that the size is only 8 gigs.
Actually, it says in the bios:
CHS capacity 8422 mb
max LBA capacity 20496 mb
Can anyone please advise what I need to do to have the whole drive size
recognized?
I also wanted to install an 80 gig hard drive on the system, but I'm
holding
off until I get this problem resolved.
Thanks for any help.
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Bruce McAlister
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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To me it's a boat anchor. Drives are so cheap now days I don't know why
you'd mess with an old and small one. If you're using your computer
anywhere near video I'd dump anything below 120gig. These days I'm using
350gig firewire drives which are plug and play, can be daisy chained and
are fast as hell. Nothing like walking into the clients office and
making criticle edits with a laptop and an external drive!
Bruce
nappy-iou wrote:
| Quote: | looks like the BIOS is pretty old. Might be outof luck unless you can update
it
"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Lo8jd.1567$U24.795@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
I just put a 20 gig hard drive on an asus p3b-f motherboard and it reports
that the size is only 8 gigs.
Actually, it says in the bios:
CHS capacity 8422 mb
max LBA capacity 20496 mb
Can anyone please advise what I need to do to have the whole drive size
recognized?
I also wanted to install an 80 gig hard drive on the system, but I'm
holding
off until I get this problem resolved.
Thanks for any help.
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Luis ORTEGA
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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if it won't recognize a 20 gig drive, what's the point in trying to stick on
a bigger one???
"Bruce McAlister" <bmcalister@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | To me it's a boat anchor. Drives are so cheap now days I don't know why
you'd mess with an old and small one. If you're using your computer
anywhere near video I'd dump anything below 120gig. These days I'm using
350gig firewire drives which are plug and play, can be daisy chained and
are fast as hell. Nothing like walking into the clients office and
making criticle edits with a laptop and an external drive!
Bruce
nappy-iou wrote:
looks like the BIOS is pretty old. Might be outof luck unless you can
update
it
"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Lo8jd.1567$U24.795@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
I just put a 20 gig hard drive on an asus p3b-f motherboard and it
reports
that the size is only 8 gigs.
Actually, it says in the bios:
CHS capacity 8422 mb
max LBA capacity 20496 mb
Can anyone please advise what I need to do to have the whole drive size
recognized?
I also wanted to install an 80 gig hard drive on the system, but I'm
holding
off until I get this problem resolved.
Thanks for any help.
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nappy-iou
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:49 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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exactly..
8GB was the limit for very old motherboards.
I think 32G was the next level and you _may_ still be able to find a BIOS
update for that mobo.
"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | if it won't recognize a 20 gig drive, what's the point in trying to stick
on
a bigger one??? |
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david.mccall
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:17 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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"nappy-iou" <go_fuck@yourself.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | exactly..
8GB was the limit for very old motherboards.
I think 32G was the next level and you _may_ still be able to find a BIOS
update for that mobo.
I've still got one machine with a Asus P2B and it has driven drives |
much bigger than that. I think that is the same board that one of clients
is using, and I think it has 2 120s striped together (I sols it to him a
couple years ago to run Incite).
One option might be to buy a drive that comes with a faster controller card
and software to help your machine use it.
David |
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Luis ORTEGA
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:54 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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I do have an asus p2b lying around, but will it accept a p3 850 cpu?
I would have thought that the p3b-f was a newer model.
If I recall, I had a p2 450 cpu in the p2b, but the p3b-f has a p3 850 cpu.
Could it be the hard drive itself? It's a fujitsu 20 gig drive, but another
similar one seems to be read ok on a QDI mainboard that has a VIA chipset
and a p3 900 cpu.
I'm just trying to put together one more editing station for my classroom
with the biggest cpu and drives that I have lying around, but I also want to
add an 80 gig drive to this machine as the video drive.
Maybe I should say that I haven't yet even bothered to install windows xp.
I've just set up the hardware and was letting it boot up to setup while I
checked things out.
Will actually reformatting all the drives with the win xp cd and installing
windows xp pro make any difference to the bios message that I'm seeing (CHS
capacity is 8422MB, and the next line reads max. LBA capacity is 20496 MB)?
Thanks for the advice.
"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"nappy-iou" <go_fuck@yourself.com> wrote in message
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exactly..
8GB was the limit for very old motherboards.
I think 32G was the next level and you _may_ still be able to find a
BIOS
update for that mobo.
I've still got one machine with a Asus P2B and it has driven drives
much bigger than that. I think that is the same board that one of clients
is using, and I think it has 2 120s striped together (I sols it to him a
couple years ago to run Incite).
One option might be to buy a drive that comes with a faster controller
card
and software to help your machine use it.
David
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nappy-iou
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:12 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"nappy-iou" <go_fuck@yourself.com> wrote in message
news:OU9jd.39118$QJ3.32784@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
exactly..
8GB was the limit for very old motherboards.
I think 32G was the next level and you _may_ still be able to find a
BIOS update for that mobo.
I've still got one machine with a Asus P2B and it has driven drives
much bigger than that. I think that is the same board that one of clients
is using, and I think it has 2 120s striped together (I sols it to him a
couple years ago to run Incite).
One option might be to buy a drive that comes with a faster controller
card
and software to help your machine use it.
David
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you're probably right.. I just saw the 8GB number at a bell went off. |
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Kevin
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:26 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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nappy-iou <go_fuck@yourself.com> wrote:
| Quote: | you're probably right.. I just saw the 8GB number at a bell went off.
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Would putting the drive in a USB or Firewire enclosure bypass the restriction? |
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Richard Crowley
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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"Kevin" wrote ...
| Quote: | Would putting the drive in a USB or Firewire enclosure
bypass the restriction?
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If the MB won't recognize a drive of such moderate size,
chances are that it doesn't have USB or Firewire either. |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:32:45 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Kevin" wrote ...
Would putting the drive in a USB or Firewire enclosure
bypass the restriction?
If the MB won't recognize a drive of such moderate size,
chances are that it doesn't have USB or Firewire either.
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Sure it would if the user added a PCE firewire card to their machine
;-) Although it certainly wouldn't boot from that drive, there'd be no
harm bolting on an enclosure to the firewire chain as mass storage,
most OS past win98 would recognise it.
Cheers - Neil |
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Richard Crowley
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject:
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:32:45 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:
"Kevin" wrote ...
Would putting the drive in a USB or Firewire enclosure
bypass the restriction?
If the MB won't recognize a drive of such moderate size,
chances are that it doesn't have USB or Firewire either.
Sure it would if the user added a PCE firewire card to their machine
;-) Although it certainly wouldn't boot from that drive, there'd be no
harm bolting on an enclosure to the firewire chain as mass storage,
most OS past win98 would recognise it.
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Adding a card changes the rules. You can add an IDE controller
card, a SATA controller card, a Firewire and/or USB2 interface
and any of them would get around the antique motherboard/BIOS
problem. |
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david.mccall
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I do have an asus p2b lying around, but will it accept a p3 850 cpu?
I would have thought that the p3b-f was a newer model.
If I recall, I had a p2 450 cpu in the p2b, but the p3b-f has a p3 850
cpu.
Could it be the hard drive itself? It's a fujitsu 20 gig drive, but
another
similar one seems to be read ok on a QDI mainboard that has a VIA chipset
and a p3 900 cpu.
I'm just trying to put together one more editing station for my classroom
with the biggest cpu and drives that I have lying around, but I also want
to
add an 80 gig drive to this machine as the video drive.
Maybe I should say that I haven't yet even bothered to install windows xp.
I've just set up the hardware and was letting it boot up to setup while I
checked things out.
Will actually reformatting all the drives with the win xp cd and
installing
windows xp pro make any difference to the bios message that I'm seeing
(CHS
capacity is 8422MB, and the next line reads max. LBA capacity is 20496
MB)?
Thanks for the advice.
IIRC that macine was running dual 400s. I personally wouldn't |
put much effort into anything that old at this point. I will take
bigger drives, but you may have to flash the BIOS (not a job
for the faint of heart). Or, as others have sugested, add a
card with a new controller on it. There are many choices;
You could buy a high speed IDE (comes free with some drives).
You could enter this century and get into a SATA drive and
controller (I have not).
You could update the machine with a USB-2/IEEE-1394 card
and use external drives. (use USB-2. USB-1 is not fast enough)
You could just buy a new machine. E-machines are much better
than they once were, and they are quite inexpensive.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ANY current machine
would stomp a machine running on a P2B.
Many of us are using external drives more and more. Some of us
have chosen to use USB-2 for the video drives, and IEEE-1394
for transfer of the data to/from the camera. The best part about
external drives is that they are easy to swap out. If you buy an
external enclosure you can easily change out the drives.
Good luck |
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Luis ORTEGA
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Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject:
Re: hard drive capacity not recognized |
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Thanks David,
Unfortunately, this is at a school and we don't have any more budget this
year to get anything.
I checked the bios and it's the latest version for that board although they
have a beta bios listed from a bit more rcent date. I'm OK with flashing
bioses, as I've built many machines from the case up and done bios updates
often.
What bothers me is that if I recall correctly, I used to run a matrox rt2000
on that P3B-F motherboard and I had some 40 gig drives on it then. I keep
wondering if this old 20 gig fujitsu drive is the culprit rather than the
motherboard or bios. I got it from our IT department and it was not bought
for our video production course. They usually buy cheap stuff to run basic
office type programs.
I may just have to wait till next year to get another machine.
"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Luis ORTEGA" <lortega@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:CKbjd.2940$zf.2583@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
I do have an asus p2b lying around, but will it accept a p3 850 cpu?
I would have thought that the p3b-f was a newer model.
If I recall, I had a p2 450 cpu in the p2b, but the p3b-f has a p3 850
cpu.
Could it be the hard drive itself? It's a fujitsu 20 gig drive, but
another
similar one seems to be read ok on a QDI mainboard that has a VIA
chipset
and a p3 900 cpu.
I'm just trying to put together one more editing station for my
classroom
with the biggest cpu and drives that I have lying around, but I also
want
to
add an 80 gig drive to this machine as the video drive.
Maybe I should say that I haven't yet even bothered to install windows
xp.
I've just set up the hardware and was letting it boot up to setup while
I
checked things out.
Will actually reformatting all the drives with the win xp cd and
installing
windows xp pro make any difference to the bios message that I'm seeing
(CHS
capacity is 8422MB, and the next line reads max. LBA capacity is 20496
MB)?
Thanks for the advice.
IIRC that macine was running dual 400s. I personally wouldn't
put much effort into anything that old at this point. I will take
bigger drives, but you may have to flash the BIOS (not a job
for the faint of heart). Or, as others have sugested, add a
card with a new controller on it. There are many choices;
You could buy a high speed IDE (comes free with some drives).
You could enter this century and get into a SATA drive and
controller (I have not).
You could update the machine with a USB-2/IEEE-1394 card
and use external drives. (use USB-2. USB-1 is not fast enough)
You could just buy a new machine. E-machines are much better
than they once were, and they are quite inexpensive.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ANY current machine
would stomp a machine running on a P2B.
Many of us are using external drives more and more. Some of us
have chosen to use USB-2 for the video drives, and IEEE-1394
for transfer of the data to/from the camera. The best part about
external drives is that they are easy to swap out. If you buy an
external enclosure you can easily change out the drives.
Good luck
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TonyP
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:46 am Post subject:
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Luis ORTEGA wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks David,
Unfortunately, this is at a school and we don't have any more budget this
year to get anything.
I checked the bios and it's the latest version for that board although they
have a beta bios listed from a bit more rcent date. I'm OK with flashing
bioses, as I've built many machines from the case up and done bios updates
often.
What bothers me is that if I recall correctly, I used to run a matrox rt2000
on that P3B-F motherboard and I had some 40 gig drives on it then. I keep
wondering if this old 20 gig fujitsu drive is the culprit rather than the
motherboard or bios. I got it from our IT department and it was not bought
for our video production course. They usually buy cheap stuff to run basic
office type programs.
I may just have to wait till next year to get another machine.
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I bought an ATA66 card at the time I was doing editing with the that
mobo. Stuck a 27gig drive in and was good to go. |
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