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Bruce McAlister
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: opinions on conversion quality dvd vs betacamsp Reply with quote

Hey all,

I'm getting ready to master for a huge duplication run of dvd and vhs.
The dvd is no problem as they simply duplicate from my authored dvd. My
question is trying to get the best quality out of the vhs duplication.

So really I'm compairing dvd (mpeg2) to composit betacamsp for
mastering. I can also send in DVcam and Digibeta (i think). The dub
house prefers betacam but if mpeg2 is comparible wouldn't it be better
to keep it all digital?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce

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Jose
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: opinions on conversion quality dvd vs betacamsp Reply with quote

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The dub house prefers betacam but if mpeg2 is comparible wouldn't it be better to keep it all digital?

"Digital" does not mean "better". I have a digital camera that takes two kinds of pictures - crappy and very crappy.

Digital is supposed to suffer no generation loss, but in video =editing= (as opposed to copying) this is not true, since images have to be decompressed and then recompressed when editing in most cases.

I'd go as far up the stream as I could. The DVD came from some other format (a betacam master? A Digibeta? DVCam?) Whatever was used for the master of the DVD will be better than the DVD itself.

When you say the dub house prefers betacam, see if it's digibeta or the older betacam. An advantage to a digital master is you can send a copy of your digital master and it's just as good. A copy of an analog would not be, and if you are doing a
big run of VHS, you'll be playing the master a lot. If the original master is analog, I would make a high end digital copy and use that (digibeta, for example), assuming economic factors are not significant.

Jose
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Bill Fright
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: opinions on conversion quality dvd vs betacamsp Reply with quote

My mistake I should have been more clear. I shot on betacamsp, digitized
all the footage and edited on FCP. I'm just looking at a output solution.

the dub house requested betacamSp analog. I'm able to make a digibeta
dub but it would go through firewire.

Thanks,
Bruce

Jose wrote:

Quote:
The dub house prefers betacam but if mpeg2 is comparible wouldn't it
be better to keep it all digital?


"Digital" does not mean "better". I have a digital camera that takes
two kinds of pictures - crappy and very crappy.

Digital is supposed to suffer no generation loss, but in video =editing=
(as opposed to copying) this is not true, since images have to be
decompressed and then recompressed when editing in most cases.

I'd go as far up the stream as I could. The DVD came from some other
format (a betacam master? A Digibeta? DVCam?) Whatever was used for
the master of the DVD will be better than the DVD itself.

When you say the dub house prefers betacam, see if it's digibeta or the
older betacam. An advantage to a digital master is you can send a copy
of your digital master and it's just as good. A copy of an analog would
not be, and if you are doing a big run of VHS, you'll be playing the
master a lot. If the original master is analog, I would make a high end
digital copy and use that (digibeta, for example), assuming economic
factors are not significant.

Jose
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Jose
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: opinions on conversion quality dvd vs betacamsp Reply with quote

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My mistake I should have been more clear. I shot on betacamsp, digitized all the footage and edited on FCP. I'm just looking at a output solution.

the dub house requested betacamSp analog. I'm able to make a digibeta dub but it would go through firewire.

Ok, so the original (finished product) is in your computer. I wonder if they can dub from your hard drive.

I don't know what the losses are through firewire to digibeta, so I really can't venture a specific opinion I'd have faith in. Maybe somebody else who has more experience with these specific formats will chime in.

Jose
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nappy-iou
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: opinions on conversion quality dvd vs betacamsp Reply with quote

"Bruce McAlister" <bmcalister@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hey all,

I'm getting ready to master for a huge duplication run of dvd and vhs. The
dvd is no problem as they simply duplicate from my authored dvd. My
question is trying to get the best quality out of the vhs duplication.

So really I'm compairing dvd (mpeg2) to composit betacamsp for mastering.
I can also send in DVcam and Digibeta (i think). The dub house prefers
betacam but if mpeg2 is comparible wouldn't it be better to keep it all
digital?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce


VHS duplication ..

I doubt you will see any difference between a Digibeta and a Beta SP for
dupes. If you shot on Betacam SP.

I would always send the highest quality uncompressed master to the dupe
house. But with proper bars for sure! If the bars are off the copies will be
off.
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