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Ruud Broens
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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: > :
: > Of course :) And, real life experiences reported are more than
welcome
: > Trev.:-)
:
: **Of course. I can provide many thousands of real life examples, if you
: wish.
:
:
: --
: Trevor Wilson
: www.rageaudio.com.au
:
Hmm, this *is* a tube NG, you know :-)
Rudy

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Ruud Broens
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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: > : > who protects the protector, who guards the guards
: > :
: > : **Most SS amps have more than one protection system. As for the
failure
: > of
: > : VI limit circuits, it is a VERY rare event.
: >
: > possibly..not my exp. but very rare times very expensive can still
add
: > up, eh ?
:
: **Strawman noted. It is rare for the power transformer to fail in a
tube
: amp, too, but it happens. Current limit devices RARELY fail first. VI
limit
: circuits (on their own) are quite reliable. Then there are MOSFETs,
which
: require no such devices, for protection.
:
: >
: > IF the VI limit circuits fail
: > : and IF the amp is connected to a short circuit, THEN (and only
then)
: > damage
: > : *MAY* occur. OTOH, what protection systems exist for tube amps
which
: > are
: > : susceptible to S/C or O/C loads? What protection exists to prevent
: > damage to
: > : output transformers, under extreme HV events?
: >
: > do you mean you don't *know* that such protection circuits exist
: > or that you can't *imagine* these circuits 'being out there' ?
:
: **I'm sure they do exist. Can you nominate a list of 10 amps which
employ
: such protection? I can list several thousand (but I do not care to do
so) SS
: amps which use comprehensive over-current protection, combined with DC
fault
: protection.
:
:
: >
: > either way, that's a hazardous road to pursue, n'est ce pas ??:-)
:
: **Please stick to English. My French is appalling.
:
::is that not so:: would be the translation. as in: a quantity argument
is not
a substitute for a quality argument. so whether implemented sporadically
or
universally, that, by itself, does not detract from the fact adequate
protection
in both ss and tube amps *can* and *have* be/been implemented
so how can *that* make one -type- of technology the 'better type' ;) ?
: --
: Trevor Wilson
: www.rageaudio.com.au
:
cheers, no rage,
Rudy
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TubeGarden
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

Hi RATs!

Price is only important to people who are buying amps. Performance is only
important to people who are listening to amps.

Everything fails when the Tsunami arrives.

Some folks just like to bicker, bicker, bicker :)

Happy Ears!
Al


Alan J. Marcy
Phoenix, AZ

PWC/mystic/Earhead
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Ruud Broens
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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:
: "Ruud Broens" <broensr@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
: news:41da0f7f$0$29224$1b2cd167@news.wanadoo.nl...
: >
: > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
: > news:33uel2F44hbe4U1@individual.net...
: > : > :
: > : > Of course :) And, real life experiences reported are more than
: > welcome
: > : > Trev.:-)
: > :
: > : **Of course. I can provide many thousands of real life examples, if
you
: > : wish.
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : Trevor Wilson
: > : www.rageaudio.com.au
: > :
: > Hmm, this *is* a tube NG, you know :-)
:
: **Which makes me wonder why you began your comments asserting that SS
amps
: were, somehow, inferior. Why try to compare anyway?
:
:
: --
: Trevor Wilson
: www.rageaudio.com.au
:
** you 've stated that twice in this thread : huh ??
just googled my name + inferior ... seems i've never used the term,
anywhere, Trev. :)
Rudy
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Ruud Broens
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:51:26 +0100, "Ruud Broens" <broensr@wanadoo.nl>
: wrote:
:
: >how gullible us tubies r , do you think :-) ??
:
: Oh no, that's just *too* tempting! :-)
:
: --
:
: Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

if temptation comes with manners, and has some bearing on
recaudiotubes, whatsa holding ya ??
Rudy
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Stewart Pinkerton
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:49:28 +0100, "Ruud Broens" <broensr@wanadoo.nl>
wrote:

Quote:
"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3qfkt0t01v55toe7k1viknk6vh8ppigspb@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:51:26 +0100, "Ruud Broens" <broensr@wanadoo.nl
: wrote:
:
: >how gullible us tubies r , do you think :-) ??
:
: Oh no, that's just *too* tempting! :-)

if temptation comes with manners, and has some bearing on
recaudiotubes, whatsa holding ya ??

Didn't your mommy tell you to resist temptation? I even resisted when
you claimed that there were no Google hits for your name plus
'inferior'! :-)

BTW, the above claim is incorrect - I get 3 hits.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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Ruud Broens
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Calculating price/performance Reply with quote

"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:49:28 +0100, "Ruud Broens" <broensr@wanadoo.nl>
: wrote:
:
: >"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
: >news:3qfkt0t01v55toe7k1viknk6vh8ppigspb@4ax.com...
: >: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:51:26 +0100, "Ruud Broens"
<broensr@wanadoo.nl>
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >how gullible us tubies r , do you think :-) ??
: >:
: >: Oh no, that's just *too* tempting! :-)
:
: >if temptation comes with manners, and has some bearing on
: >recaudiotubes, whatsa holding ya ??
:
: Didn't your mommy tell you to resist temptation? I even resisted when
: you claimed that there were no Google hits for your name plus
: 'inferior'! :-)
:
: BTW, the above claim is incorrect - I get 3 hits.
: --
:
: Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Hm, did you read *who* wrote the word in those ? ;) guess not - Rudy
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