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nappy-iou
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject:
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"Richard Ragon" <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote in message
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Old school?? The thread is talking about the top of the line Dell laptop
vs. the top Apple powerbook..
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Richard.. Go get a job at Apple.
There is absolutely no good reason to buy a mac anymore. Only people who
fall for the ads buy'em and people who have never used a PC. That's it.
That's why Apple is selling MP3 players now instead of computers. At some
point they will probably stop making computers altogether. They are too
small to make a bug free OS AND decent apps and quality hardware at the same
time. They are pretty but horribly designed. . Much less support them.ALL
software is more expensive for macs, so , as I said earlier, the DELL will
be cheaper to buy and cheaper to run.
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Kevin
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | There is absolutely no good reason to buy a mac anymore. Only people who
fall for the ads buy'em and people who have never used a PC. That's it.
That's why Apple is selling MP3 players now instead of computers. At some
point they will probably stop making computers altogether. They are too
small to make a bug free OS AND decent apps and quality hardware at the same
time. They are pretty but horribly designed. . Much less support them.ALL
software is more expensive for macs, so , as I said earlier, the DELL will
be cheaper to buy and cheaper to run.
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Nappy, what the hell are you smoking?
I can definitely understand why you wouldn't want to spend tons of money
to switch to a new platform for no good reason.
I can understand the "Macs are pricier" issue. (Yes, a comparably equipped
Dell might cost just as much as the Powerbook, but the truth is a lot of
people don't need or want comparably equipped, they want to get by with
lesser specs for a lesser price, and Apple doesn't offer that option.)
By no means am I a Mac troll, either -- but your post sure sounds like an
anti-Mac troll.
But your statements above are just chock full of misinformation. Let's start
with the obvious: ALL software is more expensive for Macs. Let's see some
proof.
In every retail store I've been in, the same software for Mac
and Windows has been the SAME. Some of them even come on the same CD
(i.e. Photoshop Elements 2, one CD has the Mac and Windows versions).
Shareware costs no more, tons are free, and in fact since it's a Unix
system I can install any GPL, open-source stuff, anything I want.
Apple can't make bug-free software? You think Microsoft can? Why do you
suppose I switched platforms entirely? Is it because I like throwing away
money or looking at pretty icons? Of course not. This machine is BY FAR
more stable and more efficient at GETTING THINGS DONE than my Dell D800
was (and that was a NICE machine). I've owned my Mac laptop for over a
year and I can count on ONE HAND the number of times I've had to reset it
because of a system crash. And guess what, you can port scan me all you want,
bomb me with spyware, viruses, infected emails - I laugh at it all. My
machine is IMMUNE. TOTALLY VIRUS PROOF, because NONE EXIST.
Apple's support sucks? Well, I wouldn't know. I have never had to call
them, because my machine just WORKS.
My software WORKS. I have everything I need - Microsoft Office, internet
tools, C++ and Java development environments, a Unix terminal, and oh yes,
some very competent video editing software (though I grant you, I still
like the interface of Ulead Media Studio Pro better than I like FCP).
I have NEVER needed reinstalling of ANYTHING.
All this on a little machine that weighs less than 5 pounds.
This machine saves me time. And that means it saves me money. The fact
that it's pretty-looking is a pure bonus.
I am NOT trying to be a "Mac advocate" or start another platform war, but
your ignorant statements needed addressing. And don't even think of
calling me a platform zealot or somehow clueless of the Windows world,
because I've lived and breathed Microsoft operating systems since
my first DOS PC, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, NT, and XP Pro. I've lived both
sides of the fence, I see pros and cons for each. To each his own, but
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Richard Ragon
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:58 am Post subject:
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Kevin wrote:
| Quote: | Nappy, what the hell are you smoking?
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No $#(!..
| Quote: | I can definitely understand why you wouldn't want to spend tons of money
to switch to a new platform for no good reason.
I can understand the "Macs are pricier" issue. (Yes, a comparably equipped
Dell might cost just as much as the Powerbook, but the truth is a lot of
people don't need or want comparably equipped, they want to get by with
lesser specs for a lesser price, and Apple doesn't offer that option.)
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Apple doesn't offer??? Not true. The original post was "Best laptop of
editing".. it didn't ask for cheapest laptop.. I simply picked the TOP
of the line powerbook, however, there are plenty of Apple computers for
less expensive that will work too.
FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
| Quote: | By no means am I a Mac troll, either -- but your post sure sounds like an
anti-Mac troll.
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This guy.. what ever his name is this week, sits here on the newsgroups
and just responds over and over with the same rhetoric to any Apple post.
| Quote: | But your statements above are just chock full of misinformation. Let's start
with the obvious: ALL software is more expensive for Macs. Let's see some
proof.
In every retail store I've been in, the same software for Mac
and Windows has been the SAME. Some of them even come on the same CD
(i.e. Photoshop Elements 2, one CD has the Mac and Windows versions).
Shareware costs no more, tons are free, and in fact since it's a Unix
system I can install any GPL, open-source stuff, anything I want.
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Right on Kevin, in fact, because OSX is so unix friendly, there are now
starting to appear even more software that's available on Mac and NOT on
PC..
However, with that said, there is one downfall that Macs have over PCs.
CAD. If your into CAD drawing.. PC's have this market wrapped up for
sure.. I've found no CAD equivalent to any Mac software.. So, I guess
if your into CAD, than PC would be the way to go. :)
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This machine saves me time. And that means it saves me money. The fact
that it's pretty-looking is a pure bonus.
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Not to mention that using a PC is like going from one great disaster to
the next. It seams that every time I turn around, I switch on my PC,
and something is screwed up that I have to now fix? Some kind of
corrupted data file keeps me from opening a program, or.. my windows
machines can't logging to the network?? or I have to spend massive hours
trying to rid virus or spyware??.. This all causes me loss of valuable
time, and lost productivity!! I simply get more done on my Mac.
| Quote: | I am NOT trying to be a "Mac advocate" or start another platform war, but
your ignorant statements needed addressing. And don't even think of
calling me a platform zealot or somehow clueless of the Windows world,
because I've lived and breathed Microsoft operating systems since
my first DOS PC, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, NT, and XP Pro. I've lived both
sides of the fence, I see pros and cons for each. To each his own, but
make an informed decision.
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Same here.. Used DOS 3.2 to XP.. used OS/2, DrDos, and IBM DOS. And have
even dabbled in linux these days with FreeBSD, RedHat, Gentoo, and Fedora..
The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
-Richard |
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TonyP
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:18 am Post subject:
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"Richard Ragon" <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
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Since many PC's come with Windows XP pre installed, and since XP has basic
video editing built in, your statement is wrong.
You will probably change your argument to the capabilities of each, but
frankly they both suck without buying some decent software instead.
Final Cut Pro is not free!
| Quote: | Not to mention that using a PC is like going from one great disaster to
the next. It seams that every time I turn around, I switch on my PC,
and something is screwed up that I have to now fix? Some kind of
corrupted data file keeps me from opening a program, or.. my windows
machines can't logging to the network?? or I have to spend massive hours
trying to rid virus or spyware??.. This all causes me loss of valuable
time, and lost productivity!! I simply get more done on my Mac.
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Simply means you know something about Macs and nothing about Wintel.
| Quote: | The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
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Exactly, but isn't that what your doing?
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Richard Ragon
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject:
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TonyP wrote:
| Quote: | "Richard Ragon" <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote in message
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FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
Since many PC's come with Windows XP pre installed, and since XP has basic
video editing built in, your statement is wrong.
You will probably change your argument to the capabilities of each, but
frankly they both suck without buying some decent software instead.
Final Cut Pro is not free!
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Who said anything about FCP? All macs come with iMovie and iDVD, which
are really great programs for any level user. They are both FREE with
the OS, and completely capable of capturing, editing, and burning a DVD!
While Windows XP has a nice little movie editor, it only makes WinMedia.
Perhaps I should have re-stated that though.. When I said making
movies.. I mean capture, edit, and creating a DVD.
| Quote: | Not to mention that using a PC is like going from one great disaster to
the next. It seams that every time I turn around, I switch on my PC,
and something is screwed up that I have to now fix? Some kind of
corrupted data file keeps me from opening a program, or.. my windows
machines can't logging to the network?? or I have to spend massive hours
trying to rid virus or spyware??.. This all causes me loss of valuable
time, and lost productivity!! I simply get more done on my Mac.
Simply means you know something about Macs and nothing about Wintel.
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Actually. I'm 25+ Windows veteran. I even had a copy of Windows 1.0 on
a HP 286 back in (I think) 1988.. dates escape me though. Back then we
were trying to figure out how to get HIMEM.SYS into Extended memory! And
Windows wasn't an OS it was a program. :)
I'm only a recent Mac user..
| Quote: | The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
Exactly, but isn't that what your doing?
TonyP.
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No. Like I said, I use the right program for the right job. I put aside
my 20+ years experience with Windows, and dove into Mac/OSX even though
I didn't know how to work the OS.
-Richard |
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Philip
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:46 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Igor wrote:
I can't make any comments on Mac, except that I feel that all Apple
products are way overpriced.
XPS is a top of the line Dell laptop, but I wouldn't choose it. For
less money you can get Inspiron 9200. 17" widescreen VS. XPS' 15.4".
Wide screen is SUPER convenient when editing video, due to the
interface design.
If 17" laptop is not portable enough, you can get Inspiron 8600 (I got
that one) even cheaper.
There are a couple of sites that offer promotional coupons which I've
used successfully.
www.edealinfo.com
www.deals2buy.com
The great thing about them is that they don't sell it themselves, they
redirect you straight to Amazon, Dell, etc., with a huge discount.
HTH
Just for a hoot, I decided to take you up on that. Went to the Dell
website, and built a comparable system, using the same features as the
Apple TOP OF THE LINE 17" powerbook! The following are my results:
----------- DELL build ---------
Inspiron 9200
Intel P M 725 (lowest CPU you can buy)
17" XGA+ Display
ATI Mobility Radeon
9700 (64MB DDR)
XP Pro
512 DDR
80GB HD
80 WHr 9-cell Lithium
8x DVD burner
(software) McAfee Virusscan
(software) myDVD Deluxe
Left everything else default.
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Total Cost: $2,876.00
---------- Apple build -----------
Powerbook
17-inch TFT Display
1.5GHz PowerPC G4
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB HD
ATI Mobility Radeon
9700 (64MB DDR)
OSX 10.3
80GB HD
8x DVD burner
(software) iDVD/iTunes/iMovie/GarageBand/iPhoto
(software) QuickBooks
Left everything else default.
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Total Cost: $2,799.00
Not only is it cheaper for the Mac, but there are multiple other things
to consider too..
1) The Mac runs FCP.
2) The Mac has a Gigabyte Ethernet port. I'm assuming that the Dell
even had an ethernet port, the build site didn't say.
3) The Mac has the backlit keyboard, not available on the Dell
4) The Mac only weighs 6.9 lbs, Dell weighs in at 7.71
5) The Mac has bluetooth built in, not available on the Dell
6) The Mac has Firewire 400 and 800, only FW 400 on the Dell
7) The Mac has a DVI out port, not available on the Dell.
8) The Mac has Widescreen 1440x900 resolution standard, not standard on
the Dell.
There was no way to compare because the Mac simply has more features
that are NOT available on the Dell that would have pushed the Dell price
even higher.
I think it's about time that we put that little myth to rest now Igor.
-Richard
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Hi-
I came across this thread while researching laptops and wanted to
throw in my two cents. The price and specs listed above for the
Inspiron 9200 appear to be a bit off. In particular, DVI and a
resolution of 1440x900 are standard, and Bluetooth is available. The
pricing also doesn't appear to take advantage of the promotions that
are a standard part of ordering from Dell.
For anyone who is curious, here are the specs and pricing for a 9200 I
ordered last week:
Inspiron 9200
- Pentium M 725 (1.6GHz)
- 1 Gig RAM (2 Dimm, 333MHz)
- ATI Radeon 9700, 128MB
- 80GB drive
- 17" WUXGA wide screen, 1920x1200 resolution
- 24x CD-RW/DVD (I didn't order the DVD burner, although it's
available)
- Internal 802.11 b/g
- Internal Bluetooth
- 80 WHr LiOn battery
- 2nd, 53 WHr LiOn battery
- Windows XP Home
Standard ports:
- IEEE 1394
- 4 USB 2.0
- DVI out
- S-Video
- 15-pin monitor
- SD memory reader
- 1 pc-card (type I or II)
- Ethernet (100, I think)
- Modem
- Audio/mic
Total price: $1,785 (no tax, and ground shipping included)
For those of you not familiar with ordering from Dell there are a few
things you should do to get the best price:
1) Price the same configuration with both the Home Office division
AND the Small Business division. Both are available as links from
Dell's homepage, but are actually different business units that
compete with each other. They run different promotions and pricing,
plus Home Office doesn't charge tax for most states (Small Biz does).
2) Look up the current coupons that are available!! This is key.
When ordering my 9200 I was able to use a 'save 25%' coupon listed on
http://www.techbargains.com/dellcoupons.cfm. There are a few sites
that list coupons, but this one seems to be the most up to date.
3) Watch the pricing on Dell's site for a few days before and after
you order. Dell runs a lot of promotions, and 24 hours can save you
hundreds of dollars if a new promotion starts. If you order a system
that won't be built for several days and there is a price drop in the
interim, you can cancel the order and book a new one. I did this with
my system and saved an additional $150.
By the way, I'm not a Windows or Mac fanatic -- for me it's just a
question of choosing the right tool for the right job. For my uses
the 9200 was the way to go, but in other circumstances it easily could
have been a Powerbook.
Hope this helps.
Philip |
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Kevin
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:10 am Post subject:
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Richard Ragon <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I can understand the "Macs are pricier" issue. (Yes, a comparably equipped
Dell might cost just as much as the Powerbook, but the truth is a lot of
people don't need or want comparably equipped, they want to get by with
lesser specs for a lesser price, and Apple doesn't offer that option.)
Apple doesn't offer??? Not true. The original post was "Best laptop of
editing".. it didn't ask for cheapest laptop.. I simply picked the TOP
of the line powerbook, however, there are plenty of Apple computers for
less expensive that will work too.
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Well, I mean the machines that are low-cost, keep-in-your-bedroom type things.
I could go out and buy a new PC for $400. I can't buy any new Mac for
that price.
(Note, I didn't say that would necessarily be a very GOOD PC for $400, but
for some people, that's all they need...)
| Quote: | FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
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And one thing to keep in mind here is that Macs have come with Firewire
as standard equipment for many years.
| Quote: | The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
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Well, as has been said multiple times in this thread already, it's all about
what gets the work done. If I work faster on Windows, I'll use my Windows
machine, and if I work better or faster on the Mac, then that's what I use.
But the reality is that I bought this Mac in October of 2003, almost as an
experiment to see what OS X would be like, and now a year later I work
exclusively on this machine for my thesis writing, every day internet and
offic stuff, email, coding and video editing, and I spend much less time
administering and maintaining the system.
Although, honestly, I'm not liking the interface for FCP (well, FCE actually)
very much. There are some things that I liked better working in Media Studio
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nappy-iou
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject:
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Ragoon..
MACS suck. The OS is not ever going to be finished.
People have no end of problems with them.
Software is more expensive.. if you can actually find what you need.
Usually there is only one choice for a program, if that.
Many companies have STOPPED developing for the Mac. INcluding some of the
ones that I developed mac software for. Yup.. I have developed mac software
and .. it was not fun because Apple HAS NOT FINISHED THE FUCKING OS.
You guys are mac addicts. I can understand that. But you know squat about
PCs and are simply blabbering in the face of the tremendous, overpowering
lead the PC has over the mac. IN every way.
Live with it, assholes.
"Richard Ragon" <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | TonyP wrote:
"Richard Ragon" <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote in message
news:xo9qd.25844$zx1.23102@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
Since many PC's come with Windows XP pre installed, and since XP has
basic
video editing built in, your statement is wrong.
You will probably change your argument to the capabilities of each, but
frankly they both suck without buying some decent software instead.
Final Cut Pro is not free!
Who said anything about FCP? All macs come with iMovie and iDVD, which
are really great programs for any level user. They are both FREE with the
OS, and completely capable of capturing, editing, and burning a DVD!
While Windows XP has a nice little movie editor, it only makes WinMedia.
Perhaps I should have re-stated that though.. When I said making movies..
I mean capture, edit, and creating a DVD.
Not to mention that using a PC is like going from one great disaster to
the next. It seams that every time I turn around, I switch on my PC,
and something is screwed up that I have to now fix? Some kind of
corrupted data file keeps me from opening a program, or.. my windows
machines can't logging to the network?? or I have to spend massive hours
trying to rid virus or spyware??.. This all causes me loss of valuable
time, and lost productivity!! I simply get more done on my Mac.
Simply means you know something about Macs and nothing about Wintel.
Actually. I'm 25+ Windows veteran. I even had a copy of Windows 1.0 on a
HP 286 back in (I think) 1988.. dates escape me though. Back then we were
trying to figure out how to get HIMEM.SYS into Extended memory! And
Windows wasn't an OS it was a program. :)
I'm only a recent Mac user..
The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
Exactly, but isn't that what your doing?
TonyP.
No. Like I said, I use the right program for the right job. I put aside my
20+ years experience with Windows, and dove into Mac/OSX even though I
didn't know how to work the OS.
-Richard
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Kevin
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:
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nappy-iou <go_fuck@yourself.com> wrote:
| Quote: | MACS suck. The OS is not ever going to be finished.
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Is Windows XP finished?
| Quote: | People have no end of problems with them.
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I never disputed that. I'm sure some people do. By the sounds of it, you
were one of them. But, I'm not one of them.
| Quote: | Software is more expensive.. if you can actually find what you need.
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Give me examples of software that costs more for the Mac than it does for
Windows.
I bought MS Office, student priced for about $200. That's the same as I
paid for Windows.
(Yes, I bought Office twice. I have paid stinkin' Microsoft a total of FOUR
times now for the same friggin' software. I'm *this* close to wanting to
just pirate the damned thing from now on.)
| Quote: | Many companies have STOPPED developing for the Mac. INcluding some of the
ones that I developed mac software for. Yup.. I have developed mac software
and .. it was not fun because Apple HAS NOT FINISHED THE OS.
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Oh sure. Name me ONE current computer operating system that is "finished".
You're right, a lot of software developers have stopped developing for the
Mac, which is kind of disappointing... but as far as I know nobody's really
hurting for it yet.
| Quote: | You guys are mac addicts. I can understand that. But you know squat about
PCs and are simply blabbering in the face of the tremendous, overpowering
lead the PC has over the mac. IN every way.
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How dare you. "I know squat about PC's?" I bet I know more about Windows
and Intel machine architecture than you do. I could describe to you, from
the gate level, how the entire Intel machine architecture was built starting
with the basic 8088, 8257 and 8259 chips. I can program in x86 assembly
and I have built every one of my four Windows PCs from the ground up. I
don't program for Windows, admittedly, but I run XP Pro on 3 out of the 4
and I do just fine with it, thank you. My machines are lean and efficient
and they get the work done. Everyone out there with Windows machines bogged
down with spyware and viruses - I laugh at them. I have NEVER had that kind
of trouble with ANY of my machines.
I had a Dell Latitude D800 laptop with a beautiful 15" widescreen LCD
display at 1920x1200 resolution, which was my primary on-the-road editing
machine running Ulead Media Studio Pro 7 under XP Pro. Great little editing
machine.
Let me say this again, slowly so you understand: I know Windows. I like
Windows. Windows is fast. Windows gets the work done. But then I bought a
Mac. And I tried the Mac. And I thought I might hate the Mac. Just like
you do. But I didn't. As fast as Windows was, the Mac got things done
even faster. I like that.
So now I use both.
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Richard Ragon
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:09 am Post subject:
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Kevin wrote:
| Quote: | Richard Ragon <bsema04@hananho.com> wrote:
I can understand the "Macs are pricier" issue. (Yes, a comparably equipped
Dell might cost just as much as the Powerbook, but the truth is a lot of
people don't need or want comparably equipped, they want to get by with
lesser specs for a lesser price, and Apple doesn't offer that option.)
Apple doesn't offer??? Not true. The original post was "Best laptop of
editing".. it didn't ask for cheapest laptop.. I simply picked the TOP
of the line powerbook, however, there are plenty of Apple computers for
less expensive that will work too.
Well, I mean the machines that are low-cost, keep-in-your-bedroom type things.
I could go out and buy a new PC for $400. I can't buy any new Mac for
that price.
(Note, I didn't say that would necessarily be a very GOOD PC for $400, but
for some people, that's all they need...)
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I guess this is a little bit like comparing cars. Some cars get you
from point A to point B. And that's why they make cars like the Ford
Escort and The Dodge Neon. If all your claiming is that a Ford is a
good car to get you where you want to go, than this would be correct..
However, Personally I want a lot more from my Car. I want safety for me
and my family, I want reliability, and I want design and comfort. I
certainly NOT going to find that in a Dodge Neon!
I guess.. Macs are the Mercedes of the PC industry.. Sure, you'll always
find something cheaper..
| Quote: | FACT: Every single Apple computer comes equipped with 100% video
editing capabilities straight out of the box. Which means you can
unpack it, and make a video without ever connecting to the internet or
installing a single lick of software. Not a single PC can claim this,
you'll always have to install some kind of combinations of software to
start working on video.
And one thing to keep in mind here is that Macs have come with Firewire
as standard equipment for many years.
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Firewire ports are just one item people seam to forget about when they
do these comparisons. They don't consider the facts that they have to
go buy these things such as additional software when they buy a PC..
| Quote: | The name of the game is too learn the tools of the trade, and learn what
does the job! To sit there and put down a platform simply because of a
pre disposed bias, is not only short sighted, but narrow minded.
Well, as has been said multiple times in this thread already, it's all about
what gets the work done. If I work faster on Windows, I'll use my Windows
machine, and if I work better or faster on the Mac, then that's what I use.
But the reality is that I bought this Mac in October of 2003, almost as an
experiment to see what OS X would be like, and now a year later I work
exclusively on this machine for my thesis writing, every day internet and
offic stuff, email, coding and video editing, and I spend much less time
administering and maintaining the system.
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100% agree with you here. I started editing on PC's, and quickly
discovered that it was quite painful.. I have the exact same story as
you here.
| Quote: | Although, honestly, I'm not liking the interface for FCP (well, FCE actually)
very much. There are some things that I liked better working in Media Studio
Pro 7 on my Windows box. And I really miss ScenalyzerLive on this platform.
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Now this is interesting.. I have read many many books on FCP. (Final Cut
Bible, QuickPro FCP, FCP HD - Weynard, and even FCP Techniques) and all
of them.. every single one say that the single best asset that FCP has
is it's functionally.. its intuitive design.. When your working on FCP,
there no single way to do anything, there's multiple ways to do
everything.. And it was designed like this specifically to lure
editors from Avid, Premiere, and media 100...
Have you thought about taking a class in FCP? Seriously, I'm certified
in FCP and I still sit in on some FCP classes, and I'm still learning
little short cuts and things that make me go humm.. "that's pretty kewl".
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Laurence Payne
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:05 am Post subject:
Re: best laptop for editing video? |
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:01:56 GMT, Richard Ragon <bsema04@hananho.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | nappy-iou wrote:
Ah.. but the Dell will run 1000 times more software than the mac. Software
will be FAR cheaper so that offsets the cost of the computer.
Another myth.. My Mac machine runs Mac software, Linux/Unix software,
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Funny how popular a Windows emulator is for Mac users :-) |
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