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Thomas Gill
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: my experience Reply with quote

I just recently investigated making backup copies of a DVD collection.
With all the talk about MPEG4 I thought I would look into this method,
but what I found generally was complex software and very long encoding
times.
My conclusion: with good quality DVD media now available at under a
dollar a disk, the best solution for me was simply to use DVDDecryptor
to rip to HD (using FILE mode), followed by DVDShrink where required (
setup: auto compression to fill a DVD ) , then Nero ( or alternate
program) to burn. Total elapsed time under an hour. Not one coaster yet
using this method and very good picture quality with all original menus
intact.
I can see MPEG of use for sending video over the Internet, but not for
archival purposes.
Just my opinion.
Thanks to those who answered my queries here.

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Oscar
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: my experience Reply with quote

can somebody explain this mpeg4 stuff please? Have been backing up my DVD's
the same ways as Thomas here, but what are the pro's and con's with
converting to mpeg4? Want to play the DVD's from the PC's HDD, so if mpeg4
turns the DVD into a smaller file without a loss of quality, that would be
great. At the moment I can only fit 25 DVD's on a 100GB drive and have over
150 DVD's I would like to get onto the server.

oscar


"Thomas Gill" <thomasgill@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Quote:
I just recently investigated making backup copies of a DVD collection.
With all the talk about MPEG4 I thought I would look into this method,
but what I found generally was complex software and very long encoding
times.
My conclusion: with good quality DVD media now available at under a
dollar a disk, the best solution for me was simply to use DVDDecryptor
to rip to HD (using FILE mode), followed by DVDShrink where required (
setup: auto compression to fill a DVD ) , then Nero ( or alternate
program) to burn. Total elapsed time under an hour. Not one coaster yet
using this method and very good picture quality with all original menus
intact.
I can see MPEG of use for sending video over the Internet, but not for
archival purposes.
Just my opinion.
Thanks to those who answered my queries here.


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Papageno
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: my experience Reply with quote

"Oscar" <asta@la.vista.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
can somebody explain this mpeg4 stuff please? Have been backing up my
DVD's
the same ways as Thomas here, but what are the pro's and con's with
converting to mpeg4? Want to play the DVD's from the PC's HDD, so if mpeg4
turns the DVD into a smaller file without a loss of quality, that would be
great.

MPEG started as MPEG-1. Picture quality was limited even at moderately high
data rates ... have a look at a VCD, which uses MPEG-1 encoding.

MPEG-2 format does a better job at the same data rates as MPEG-1. And at
very high data rates, does a great job. That's what you get on a DVD movie.

MPEG-3 was a proposal that died before coming into use. Don't confuse this
with MP3, which is utterly unrelated to MPEG-3.

MPEG-4 was a follow-on that attempted to get better quality at lower data
rates. It exists in a number of encoders, and it's a shame that the DVD
standard is "stuck" with MPEG-2 instead. MPEG-4 can give excellent results
and will produce video files that are **much** smaller than the
corresponding MPEG-2.

I you convert DVD video to MPEG-4, you must determine how you will play it
back. PCs are infinitely malleable, so there's always software to do what
you want/need. There's lots of freeware and payware for that. But set-top
DVD players are less configurable. If that's your playback mechanism, make
sure your player can handle your recordings.
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Tom
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: my experience Reply with quote

Thomas Gill <thomasgill@shaw.ca> wrote in news:4FEhd.94162$Pl.86900
@pd7tw1no:

Quote:
I just recently investigated making backup copies of a DVD collection.
With all the talk about MPEG4 I thought I would look into this method,
but what I found generally was complex software and very long encoding
times.
My conclusion: with good quality DVD media now available at under a
dollar a disk, the best solution for me was simply to use DVDDecryptor
to rip to HD (using FILE mode), followed by DVDShrink where required (
setup: auto compression to fill a DVD ) , then Nero ( or alternate
program) to burn. Total elapsed time under an hour. Not one coaster yet
using this method and very good picture quality with all original menus
intact.
I can see MPEG of use for sending video over the Internet, but not for
archival purposes.
Just my opinion.
Thanks to those who answered my queries here.

I find the easiest way is to just use DVD Shrink for the ripping, and
letting it invoke Nero for the burning. Except for poor (scratches, etc.)
media that won't rip from my DVD ROM drive (but will from my newer burner),
this lets me just start the rip, and return to a burned backup.
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